You really would sit there 30 minutes with dirty windows? ...lol.. Like whos going to know gee whiz
What Truck Parking Changes Have You Seen With New HOS?
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Who knew when drivers were running multiple sets of logs? The RULE is, OFF DUTY for 30 minutes. You either follow it or you are in violation. You can always do your windows before or after your MRB. It's the "cowboy attitude" like you have that led to all these regulations. Dang gum van guys! LOL!!
Just pointing out how absurd this MRB thing is. I still say we should all just shut down on the highway and REALLY plug things up for a while. Still not heard from my congressman on this one. Likely never will.
You are you real truck driver when you can juggle 3 Logbooks Dr. 100 hours a week have an audit and show legal! Whooses...lol
Really though I do agree it's ridiculous but..
Stupid regulations invite cheating. The more they come out with this stuff the more irrelevant they will become. The "cowboys" will figure a way to cheat, which almost always makes things MORE dangerous for all. Not to mention that the regulations themselves are causing more problems than they are worth.
I don't understand these two rules have nothing to do with safety... How does it make it more dangerous?
The new MRB makes many drivers sleepy, myself included. It can take an hour or two, after my MRB, before I feel really awake again. I was listening to one of the trucking shows the other day and heard many drivers that say the same thing. I am just groggy after just sitting like that.
The new 34 hour rule is forcing trucks to drive when traffic and congestion is at it's worth. Also many drivers are used to a certain sleep/work pattern and they are being forced to alter that, making them more dangerous as well.
But all that is known, and they really don't care.
No one really make them care ??
paullud
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People are going to be driving faster and more aggressively to make up lost time plus stopping for many takes your head out of the game.
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The government? Care? You are funny! LOL!! I don't know who is paying who off at FMSCA but I would LOVE to find out who and why.
I imagine a company driver doesn't really care but an owner operator takes a big hit
paullud
Veteran Expediter
My guess is Qualcomm has some major campaign investments. How else are they going to make sure drivers are following these regulations unless we are all using EOBRs? You just have to ignore all the cheating being done with EOBRs and they appear to be flawless.
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I understand he did not have to part at that particular DQ. I also understand that, when you get really short on time, any spot will do. There will more of that going on.
Qualcomm is a prime candidate for the payoff game.
Hey! It's government, what else would you expect? Honesty?
I bet there is more than "campaign investments" going on.
Qualcomm, Rand McNally, all EOBR manufacturers make significant campaign contributions and spend well on lobbying efforts.
Qualcomm was sued in January by the New York's state pension fund to force Qualcomm to disclose its political contributions, which the fund argued is needed to ensure the contributions are in its shareholders' interests. New York State Common Retirement Fund, which holds Qualcomm shares worth a $378 million, and is the third largest public institutional investor in the U.S. with $150 billion in assets, alleged in its lawsuit that Qualcomm has refused requests to inspect its books.
"Despite requests for increased transparency, Qualcomm continues to obscure its political spending. Qualcomm's website lacks meaningful disclosure regarding the Company's corporate giving."
The lawsuit notes that since the Supreme Court lifted restrictions on corporate political contributions in the 2010 Citizens United case, those contributions have risen dramatically across the board. However, that ruling anticipated companies would disclose their political contributions to shareholders and to the public, which not all companies have done.
The money spent on lobbying is more or less known, since a combination of Qualcomm's financial statement and published reports from the Center for Responsive Politics lets you arrive at a rather accurate figure. Last year Qualcomm spent a cool $4.7 million on federal lobbying efforts, not including any political contributions. They didn't spend all of that money on EOBR lobbying, of course, since satellite tracking and EOBRs aren't their only business, but that is the pressing concern for them at the moment, so I would imagine that a large percentage of it was spent in that manner.
On its Website Qualcomm goes to great lengths to convince truckers how much improved their lives will be once they have an EOBR, especially if it's a QC branded EOBR, and particularly after they are mandated by the FMCA because there will be set standards for implementing them. They even encourage drivers to lobby their carriers to move to EOBRs in order to make life easier, and cheaper, for the trucker.
There are big bucks at stake here, so yes, Qualcomm and others are very politically active in contributions and lobbying.
In February, in exchange for having the lawsuit dropped, Qualcomm disclosed most of its politica spending (Qualcomm Reveals Its Donations to Tax-Exempt Groups - NYTimes.com).
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And now we know the PRIMARY reason for the new regulations.
Slo-Ride
Veteran Expediter
Off duty not driving means I am free to do as I please..The cowboy in me says if I want to clean my windows/put air in my tires etc etc I say be da** with the rule book..Im doing what I want to do while off duty. Yep wont be long and we all will be criminals.
Someone show me a law that says I cant check my oil while off duty...
BigCat
Expert Expediter
One way it makes things more dangerous and I am guilty of this lately, but driving faster to beat the 8 hour mark. If I am doing a 8.5 hour trip where I was running 60 mph in the past, I am now running 65-67 to try to deliver before the 8 hour mark then drive off duty to the truck stop.
You'd think that, but no.
I don't have a cowboy in me, but the free-thinking sentient being in me thinks the same thing as your cowboy. The entire purpose of Off-Duty Not Driving is for rest and relaxation. Some people like to do recreational oil changes (the 3000 mile crowd), others like to check air in tires for fun and recreation (Phil), and others still have a need to clean.
#2 is what you're after.
Definitions. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration
#9 means that if you mow your neighbor's law for twenty bucks you have to log it. <snort>