What Truck Parking Changes Have You Seen With New HOS?

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Keep writing your congressman then , it seems to be working!.... Not like civil uncivil.... More along the organized protests and educating the public type
 
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ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
This is my thing....
I am Canadian and I see that I am bombarded by this American stuff about fight for freedom and independence....and I see here domestically all these millions of drivers taking it in the shorts and there is no resistance, no civil disobedience yet....no protests on the hill....you all will go and fight in some flea hill across the pond but won't fight for your own way of life?.....you all will sacrific your life literally for your country abroad but won't even put up your job never mind your life here to defend yourselves....heaven be you ever sacrifice a dollar...

Yes, many truckers or people who would become truckers have put their lives on the line in the military to fight for America and fight against enemies who wish to destroy America and its ideals. Patriotism is a strong motivator.

Fighting rules that source from within America is something different. The enemy is less defined. Resistance against American authorities is not seen as patriotic. The threats are not as clear as they are with an enemy who wants to kill you and your fellow Americans.

Your analogy fails because the enemies are different. When you are fighting the American system, you find yourself face to face with men and women, some of whom have also put their lives on the line for America and its ideals.
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yes, many truckers or people who would become truckers have put their lives on the line in the military to fight for America and fight against enemies who wish to destroy America and its ideals. Patriotism is a strong motivator.

Fighting rules that source from within America is something different. The enemy is less defined. Resistance against American authorities is not seen as patriotic. The threats are not as clear as they are with an enemy who wants to kill you and your fellow Americans.

Your analogy fails because the enemies are different.

Also, the time is not yet here for that fight to take place. It may, or may not, reach that point. Only time will tell.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Is the enemy any different? Besides the fact of death? A tyrannical government that seeks to control beyond the mandate of the rules.... Is FMSCA any better or worse that limits say Dept of Labor that limits em ployees work hours and conditions?
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
What is it with all the international sniping? :mad: There is enough BS on both sides of the border to go around.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Is the enemy any different? Besides the fact of death? A tyrannical government that seeks to control beyond the mandate of the rules.... Is FMSCA any better or worse that limits say Dept of Labor that limits em ployees work hours and conditions?

Of course the enemy is different. When we are fighting over what the Hours of Service regulations will look like, we are fighting people who want the regulations to be different than we would have them be. Government regulations do not happen by themselves. They are created when your neighbor gets more active than you.

Your neighbor does not like it when you park your tractor in your driveway? The call goes up to the city council to pass a new zoning regulation that prohibits it. A group of labor-friendly Americans wants to use the system to level the playing field more to their liking by limiting the hours independent owner operators wish to work? The call goes up to the FMCSA to change the rules.

These are not enemies of America who are active within the system. They are Americans, many of whom are willing to fight and die on the battlefield, just like many truckers are. A fight over the shape of a regulation is not a fight to the death. Guns and violence are not used precicely because the enemy is different.

In fact, it is not good to call them enemies at all. They are Americans who happen to have different views on the role of governemnt and government policy.
 

Johnp3337

Rookie Expediter
The HOS rule has caused over crowded T-Stops. Every rig in the nation on 30 minute break easily explains it. Just another reason why A sprinter or CV makes more sense. Always room to park out front and fuel out front. Who needs a 30 minute break anyway?
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
One month into the new regulations, I am consistently seeing truck stops fill and sometimes fill to overflowing on Friday and Saturday nights. That was not the case before the new rules went into effect. I am also seeing an increase of trucks lingering at the pumps. Now, to be fair, that happens when a shift change happens at the truck stop and drivers back up in line waiting for their fuel receipts and other drivers who have certain time-consuming transactions to do at the counter. However, observing some, there is no question that a few drivers are taking their 30 minute break at the pumps.
 
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