Ft. Hood Massacre: 12 Dead, 31 Wounded

[letzrockexpress]

I don't see where I mentioned my kids, Rocket, you lost me there.

O.K. well let me refresh your memory....

And yes i say we need to be the aggressors in military actions against anyone we deem the enemy for any reason with the fact that both of my sons served in the ME, both on multiple tours..i wanted my daughter to go also, but she bowed out...and 1 one my sons still works for a military contractor ...so don't try to go to the standing bs, that "if you or your kids were in the military you wouldn't feel that way..."

 

[chefdennis]

yeap , islam is a religion of peace...this is certainly a peaceful message:





An Officer & a Gentleman
Friday, 06 November 2009 00:24 Revolution Muslim
Revolution Muslim

Major Nidal Hasan M.D.

An officer and a gentleman was injured while partaking in a preemptive* attack.

Get Well Soon Major Nidal

We Love You

 

[letzrockexpress]

letz wrote:



I don't give a tinkers azz if we are always the good guy or not or the worlds cops...we need to be the aggressors and set the world stage in the theather as to keep others from attcking us. 9-11 happened here because of clintons bs garbage on being weak militarily....they knew we were weakin by clinton and moved against us on our soil, that should never have happen and with this "apologist in office now and his inability to handle foreign powers and his total disregard for our military, chances are it will happen again....our military needs to go wherever it da8mn well feels the need for whatever reason they want to, pre-emptive or not, and even just for the h8ell of it...we need to be the aggressors...you think russia and china would be working in cuba and with hugo and all over central america if they felt we were in a position to take them out as we have been in the past!?!? No, they know we are weakened by weak leadership...and we will pay for it here on our own soil again...as well as being attacked by those that want to kill the infidels of the west.....

And yes i say we need to be the aggressors in military actions against anyone we deem the enemy for any reason with the fact that both of my sons served in the ME, both on multiple tours..i wanted my daughter to go also, but she bowed out...and 1 one my sons still works for a military contractor ...so don't try to go to the standing bs, that "if you or your kids were in the military you wouldn't feel that way..."

Rest assured your "tinkers azz", whatever that is, is fully intact. Moreover, I was talking to Mr. Shooter...

 

[chefdennis]

ahh you might have been talking to layout, but when you post it in an open forum, its fair game for a responce from anyone..don't ya love it....

 

[layoutshooter]

O.K. well let me refresh your memory....

Rocket, I did NOT write that, I only have ONE son in the military. the other does NOT work for a military contractor and I have NO daughter. Now I am REALLY lost.

 

[chefdennis]

letz wrote:

First of all, YOU mentioned your kids, not me, so don't even try that one..

O.K. well let me refresh your memory....

letz cut and stated that layout posted:

Originally Posted by layoutshooter

And yes i say we need to be the aggressors in military actions against anyone we deem the enemy for any reason with the fact that both of my sons served in the ME, both on multiple tours..i wanted my daughter to go also, but she bowed out...and 1 one my sons still works for a military contractor ...so don't try to go to the standing bs, that "if you or your kids were in the military you wouldn't feel that way..."

lol ahhh letz, thats my quote..you should be more careful when you accuse people of saying things they didn't or even infering that they did...its one thing for another to try and read something into a post that some said, but didn't mean that way...but that quote came from my post and nothing that layout said....lol...

 

[letzrockexpress]

Rocket, I did NOT write that, I only have ONE son in the military. the other does NOT work for a military contractor and I have NO daughter. Now I am REALLY lost.

seriously? something fishy is going on then...I'll check it out

 

[letzrockexpress]

I hate when that happens... Sorry Mr. Shooter, it was Chef who made the post about his sons and daughter...Please accept my sincere apologies. My comments were misdirected. I still stand my words, though to Chef instead.'

I think Chef was working some kind of weird mojo to confuse me...

 

[chefdennis]

letz wrote:

something fishy is going on then

LOL yea , you are cutting from one post and contributing it to another poster...not too fishy...it happens, you even raised he*ll with me for doing it to you but i did it on purpose to you, but i at leasted used your own words, i just took them from another thread to make the point in a totally different thread...lol...

 

[layoutshooter]

No problem at all there, Rocket. I just was VERY lost and had NO idea in the world what you were talking about. That makes it VERY hard for me to come back with one of my brilliant and snappy comebacks!!! LOL!!

 

[chefdennis]

you can stand by your point all you want, and i appreciate that..but it doesn't mean a thing to me, as i said, the US military needs to go anywhere and do whatever they feel they need to do to whoever for whatever reason the deem necessary...if you haven't figured it out, i have no problem with our military doing exactly what they were trained to do . kill people and destroy things...and i really don't care who they do it to or why.....we need to be the aggressors as i said....it was the weakness that clinton showed and his dismantling of our military that allowed 9-11 to happen, it is barrys show of weakness, his inability to deal with foreign powers and his lack of leadership and no experience and his general dislike of anything military that shows weakness to the enemy, and is letting russia and china escalate their buildups in our hemisphere....if they felt that we would take action against then as they knew we would have done in the past, they would not be doing what they are now....so yea...taking it to our enemies is all good with me, anytime, anywhere, and in anyway....

 

[letzrockexpress]

you can stand by your point all you want, and i appreciate that..but it doesn't mean a thing to me, as i said, the US military needs to go anywhere and do whatever they feel they need to do to whoever for whatever reason the deem necessary...if you haven't figured it out, i have no problem with our military doing exactly what they were trained to do . kill people and destroy things...and i really don't care who they do it to or why.....we need to be the aggressors as i said....it was the weakness that clinton showed and his dismantling of our military that allowed 9-11 to happen, it is barrys show of weakness, his inability to deal with foreign powers and his lack of leadership and no experience and his general dislike of anything military that shows weakness to the enemy, and is letting russia and china escalate their buildups in our hemisphere....if they felt that we would take action against then as they knew we would have done in the past, they would not be doing what they are now....so yea...taking it to our enemies is all good with me, anytime, anywhere, and in anyway....

 

[chefdennis]

lol , nothing to lighten up about, i am too old, but both my boys are still willing and one still works for a military contractor, so taking it to the enemy is not a bad thing even knowing my kids are there....see i believe that we as a country are in danger of another attack on our soil and all will pay a price for it here...but you seem to be willing to "lighten up"...take it easy, don't worry, we aren't always right so we should back off..sorry that doesn't work for me.....if my impression of what you mean by "lighten up" and that america isn't always right and needs to stay out of "stuff" and that you

" know enough to ascertain the U.S. has stuck it's nose into places and issues it has no business being, in the name of national security."

was taken out of context, please...explain it to me....because for me, if our military decides that anyone anywhere is a threat, they had better stick their nose it in whatever name they want to call it....and to go even further, if the powers that be feel the need to strike anywhere just for the sake of doing it, more power to them...you know kind of like the libs accused bush of doing....i am ok with that....my only problem is the gutless libs and dems invoking the ridicules TOE on our troops...like those that barry has done in the afghan war and the dems did in the mid portion of iraq......now with that said, if you are going to tie our troops hands, then don't go in at all....we train them to kill people and break things, then make then ask for permission as the are being shot at...no that i don't support...

 

[letzrockexpress]

lol , nothing to lighten up about, i am too old, but both my boys are still willing and one still works for a military contractor, so taking it to the enemy is not a bad thing even knowing my kids are there....see i believe that we as a country are in danger of another attack on our soil and all will pay a price for it here...but you seem to be willing to "lighten up"...take it easy, don't worry, we aren't always right so we should back off..sorry that doesn't work for me.....if my impression of what you mean by "lighten up" and that america isn't always right and needs to stay out of "stuff" and that you was taken out of context, please...explain it to me....because for me, if our military decides that anyone anywhere is a threat, they had better stick their nose it in whatever name they want to call it....and to go even further, if the powers that be feel the need to strike anywhere just for the sake of doing it, more power to them...you know kind of like the libs accused bush of doing....i am ok with that....my only problem is the gutless libs and dems invoking the ridicules TOE on our troops...like those that barry has done in the afghan war and the dems did in the mid portion of iraq......now with that said, if you are going to tie our troops hands, then don't go in at all....we train them to kill people and break things, then make then ask for permission as the are being shot at...no that i don't support...

We are talking about apples and oranges. I will say this though...you babbling on some internet forum about "what is o.k. with you" is not "taking it to the enemy". You don't know me or what I would do if that threat were to occur in my town or in my house, anymore than I know what you would do. I know what I would do or what I will do. This isn't the place to expound on that. Maybe you feel the need to express some kind of machismo. That's fine, but call a spade a spade. Lightning up on this forum isn't going to make you look weak. Whether you do or you don't doesn't add up to squat. It means nothing.

 

[layoutshooter]

You know Rocket, our towns and homes ARE in danger of attack. NO ONE is safe from the enemy we face today. In fact, they are more likely to shoot up a mall or school than pull off another 9/11. This enemy is made up of cowards who only kill "easy targets". This is a threat like none we have ever faced before, and at least right now, our government is NOT handling it in a reasonable manner. We have to take the fight to them, in their house. We must fight them the same way we did Japan and Germany in WWII. We either take it to them over there, OR, they will bring it here to us. Talking will do no good.

We must also be aware that there ARE terrorists and terrorist cell operating in the U.S. as we speak. This doctor in Texas may or may not be a part of that. It is likely that he is in agreement with their cause. It would NOT surprise me that he is involved in a greater capacity. That is my feeling, nothing more. I also do not believe that our current administration will allow an unencumbered investigation. I think they are too worried about looking bad in the eyes of Muslims at the least, at the worst, working with them. Either way, they are NOT looking out for OUR best interest.

 

[chefdennis]

lol, nothing macho in what i said at all..lol, me i am just an old out of shape guy with a beer gut...not to macho at all...but the fact that our country needs to be aggressive in "Taking it to" those that the military powers that be deem are the enemy is a necessary evil in war and in defending our country..i don't find that macho at all, i find that common sense....either "take it to them" or show the weakness that we have and they will "bring it" to us here on our soil....

As to what you would do if a "threat occured in your home or town" , i never questioned you personally...and yes i know what i will do, not if something happens, but when it happens...that isn't macho either..thats how it is as i wuld expect it to be with you also....

LOL, and as far as babbling on the internet and as you said

"Lightning up on this forum isn't going to make you look weak. Whether you do or you don't doesn't add up to squat. It means nothing."

, you really don't think i am lossing any sleep over what you or anyone else here thinks of me now do you??? And i rest just fine assured that you aren't lossing any sleep thinking about me or anything that i say here. when i shut this thing off , it all done and i enjoy whatever it is i am doing without a 2nd thought...as i am sure you do also...lol...

 

[letzrockexpress]

You know Rocket, our towns and homes ARE in danger of attack. NO ONE is safe from the enemy we face today. In fact, they are more likely to shoot up a mall or school than pull off another 9/11. This enemy is made up of cowards who only kill "easy targets". This is a threat like none we have ever faced before, and at least right now, our government is NOT handling it in a reasonable manner. We have to take the fight to them, in their house. We must fight them the same way we did Japan and Germany in WWII. We either take it to them over there, OR, they will bring it here to us. Talking will do no good.

We must also be aware that there ARE terrorists and terrorist cell operating in the U.S. as we speak. This doctor in Texas may or may not be a part of that. It is likely that he is in agreement with their cause. It would NOT surprise me that he is involved in a greater capacity. That is my feeling, nothing more. I also do not believe that our current administration will allow an unencumbered investigation. I think they are too worried about looking bad in the eyes of Muslims at the least, at the worst, working with them. Either way, they are NOT looking out for OUR best interest.

I pretty much agree with you , my point is that regardless of what is said here, It doesn't likely reflect how we would personally handle such an attack. What I may say here doesn't really have anything to do with what I would likely do in the real world. This forum is, for the most part, fantasyland..Tough talk in here is silly.

 

[layoutshooter]

I don't think I implied otherwise. As to this chat not serving a purpose, it does. Just as "gallows humor" helps firefighters and EMT's deal with death and gore, so does "spouting off" in here. It is a release. And NOW, I head out to dinner with Mrs. Layoutshooter. I will continue to explain life to you tomorrow.

 

[letzrockexpress]

LOL, and as far as babbling on the internet and as you said , you really don't think i am lossing any sleep over what you or anyone else here thinks of me now do you??? And i rest just fine assured that you aren't lossing any sleep thinking about me or anything that i say here. when i shut this thing off , it all done and i enjoy whatever it is i am doing without a 2nd thought...as i am sure you do also...lol...

Hey, were all just babbling...I'm sure neither of us are losing sleep. I know I'm not.

 

[letzrockexpress]

I don't think I implied otherwise. As to this chat not serving a purpose, it does. Just as "gallows humor" helps firefighters and EMT's deal with death and gore, so does "spouting off" in here. It is a release. And NOW, I head out to dinner with Mrs. Layoutshooter. I will continue to explain life to you tomorrow.

Hey, what's the deal with you making so much sense lately??