Ft. Hood Massacre: 12 Dead, 31 Wounded

chefdennis

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hmmm, i just heard in the radio that he cleaned OUT, his apartment and refrigerator yesterday sitting things at the curb...

he jumped on a table and as he was shotting, he was screaming Allah is Great in arabic...as he fired at head level....

And Layout, the military as come out and said that he was NEVER issued a weapon at all....he had to buy or steal or be supplied by others the weapons he used.....

Planned? NOOO not a chance, he just snapped.....:rolleyes:
 

OntarioVanMan

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I'll bet you the government will down play this and out right lie after all is investigated ...The guy was a coward and tried suicide by lethal force...and he failed at that! No way will anyone say it was really murder! Yeah he snapped will be the official call.
 

chefdennis

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with barry doing all he can to make apologies to muslims would wide, this will NEVER be called a act of terrorism by a islamic terrorist and be called what it was, an act of jihadd.....it will simply be a crime by one person ...so yea in that way, it will be he snapped....and yes he was a coward, trader, and a ismlamic muslum terrorist....

Our government has only tried i think 6-7 people on treason...if this guy lives, he should be added to that list....and given the death penalty....

on another thought, i bet barry and nancy aren't too upset with this...give them the .. "hey look over there" distraction as they force a vote on healthcare tomorrow.....
 
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Pilgrim

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Some random thoughts as more information comes out about this muslim piece of sub-human debris:
  • Even though he was born in VA, at his mosque he listed his nationality as Palistinian. In effect, we have a major in the US Army that renounced his US citizenship.
  • As Chef pointed out, yesterday morning he was giving away his furniture and handing out copies of the koran in his neighborhood - all the while dressed in muslim garb.
  • Wonder where he got his handguns and ammo, also the considerable training needed to be this effective with these sidearms?
  • It's reported that he took an oath of loyalty to his country and the military; we now have reaffirmation of the value of these oaths made by radical muslims.
  • He had supposedly attracted some attention due to some radical postings on some websites, comparing suicide bombers to heroic soldiers that fall on grenades to save their comrades. Does this tell anyone the condition of this guy's mental state?
  • How many more of these terrorists are lurking within our military and law enforcement organizations - or perhaps our Defense Dept in critical security positions?
  • Will political correctness continue to prevent action being taken towards these characters when they start acting suspiciously? God forbid we should engage in racial profiling.
  • I'll bet OVM is right one the money with his prediction - the govt. will spin this completely away from the muslim factors. Already there are comments on CNN comparing him to an angry white militia member.
 

chefdennis

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Surprise, Surprise!!! He worked for barry!!!

HOMELAND INSECURITY
Shooter advised Obama transition
Fort Hood triggerman aided team on Homeland Security task force

Posted: November 06, 2009
9:21 am Eastern
By Jerome R. Corsi
Obamma/Malik Link! - The Tree Of Liberty

Maj. Nidal Malik HasanNEW YORK – Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the alleged shooter in yesterday's massacre at Fort Hood, played a homeland security advisory role in President Barack Obama's transition into the White House, according to a key university policy institute document.

The Homeland Security Policy Institute at George Washington University published a document May 19, entitled "Thinking Anew – Security Priorities for the Next Administration: Proceedings Report of the HSPI Presidential Transition Task Force, April 2008 – January 2009," ( http://www.gwumc.edu/hspi/old/PTTF_ProceedingsReport_05.19.09.pdf ) 9 in which Hasan of the Uniformed Services University School of Medicine is listed on page 29 of the document as a Task Force Event Participant.

Hasan received his medical degree from the military's Uniformed Services University School in Bethesda, Md., in 2001.
Noting that the Obama administration transition was proceeding, the GWU Homeland Security Policy Institute report described on the first page the role of the Presidential Transition Task Force as including "representatives from past Administrations, State government, Fortune 500 companies, academia, research institutions and non-governmental organizations with global reach."

While the GWU task force participants included several members of government, including representatives of the Department of Justice and the U.S Department of Homeland Security, there is no indication in the document that the group played any formal role in the official Obama transition, other than to serve in a university-based advisory capacity.

According to the "About Us" section of the GWU Homeland Security Policy Institute, ( HSPI | About Us: Mission )( the group is a "nonpartisan 'think and do' tank whose mission is to build bridges between theory and practice to advance homeland security through an interdisciplinary approach."
The Homeland Security Policy Institute is led by Frank J Cilluffo, ( HSPI | About Us | Frank J. Cilluffo ) who formerly served in the White House as special assistant to President Bush for homeland security, and by Daniel Kaniewski, ( HSPI | About Us | Daniel J. Kaniewski ) who formerly served in the White House as special assistant to President Bush for homeland security and senior director for response policy.

"Muslims should stand up and fight the aggressor," Hasan said about America before he and possibly other Muslim soldiers at Fort Hood shot 43 fellow soldiers, killing 12, who were returning from Iraq and Afghanistan.

"He said Muslims had a right to attack" the U.S., said Col. Terry Lee, who worked with Hasan at the Texas post, where the devout Sunni Muslim refused deployment. "He said Muslims shouldn't be fighting Muslims," he added. "He was very clear on that."

According to an explosive new book, "Muslim Mafia: Inside the Secret Underworld That's Conspiring to Islamize America," Hasan is just the tip of a jihadist Fifth Column operating within the ranks of the U.S. military – which is too blinded by political correctness to see the threat. ( Military jihadists fill 'every branch' )
 

chefdennis

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Can you imagine what would be being said if he had been giving copies of Glen Becks book away and if he had had a copy of Mike Levins book in his car............:rolleyes:
 

Pilgrim

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It's being reported on the news that some crazy sob has shot up an office building in downtown Orlando within the last hour - 2 dead, 8 wounded. He has yet to be apprehended. The nut cases are coming out of the woodwork. Of course the first question that comes to everyone's mind - will this turn out to be another islamic radical?
 
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layoutshooter

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I checked with some of my sorces and some of those wounded are being sent to Walter Reed where I have other inside sorces. With any luck we can get a much better picture as to what went on there. I will post as soon as I get more info. Most likely sometime next week.
 

greg334

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I think it is time that we start defining events like ft hood as terrorist acts, and treat them the same as 9/11 not just something that is swept under the rug so not to offend anyone.

The Muslims here have said this is not a good thing and I say maybe they need to start stepping up, do some self-policing and work with the cops. It is just like the serial killer in Cleveland, the cops are begging relatives who had family members disappear to come in and get a DNA test to id the victims but they are refusing to do so because they don't want to work with the cops for any reason - their loss.
 

Pilgrim

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I think it is time that we start defining events like ft hood as terrorist acts, and treat them the same as 9/11 not just something that is swept under the rug so not to offend anyone.

The Muslims here have said this is not a good thing and I say maybe they need to start stepping up, do some self-policing and work with the cops.

Exactly right!! If these so-called "peace loving" muslims are truly sincere, they should work with authorities to fight against the jihadists and expose them if they're found hiding amoung the population. This especially applies to the mullahs, imams and other men of God that promote their religion with all these people in the mosques.

Supposedly, Hasan's family has issued a statement comdemning his horrific act and reaffirming their love of their country. I, for one can't help but be a bit skeptical of their show of patriotism. If they were the least bit close to him they certainly should have been aware of his strong anti-war feelings and his jihadist mentality. These types of people are good at providing the necessary lip service to the media, while at the same time carrying on their jihadist agenda among themselves.
 

witness23

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Surprise, Surprise!!! He worked for barry!!!



I'm surprised it took you this long to make a connection between this horrifying incident to President Obama.

I demand President Obama and President Bush be detained and questioned immediately so that we can get to the bottom of this!!!

Seriously though, I've read your cut and paste three times and I'm still trying to find the tie between this monster and President Obama, can you explain it to me?
 

chefdennis

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Witness wrote:

Seriously though, I've read your cut and paste three times and I'm still trying to find the tie between this monster and President Obama, can you explain it to me?

Nope...:D
 

chefdennis

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They know who the Orlando shooter is

Former employee opens fire at Orlando office tower

Nov 6 01:54 PM US/Eastern
By MIKE SCHNEIDER
Associated Press Writer
Former employee opens fire at Orlando office tower


ORLANDO, Fla. (AP) - Officials searched Friday for a gunman who opened fire in a downtown office building where he used to work. At least six people were hurt.
People streamed out of the 16-story Legion Place office building around lunchtime and some told local television stations they had barricaded themselves inside their offices.

Orlando Fire Department District Chief Michael Droege said an unknown number of people were still in the building and could be injured. He said the SWAT team was trying to pull people out.

"The building is not secure now," he said. "It's still unfolding."

Orlando police spokeswoman Barbara Jones identified the gunman as Jason Rodriguez, 40, and said he might be in a 2002 silver Nissan SUV with license plate D119UX. She said he used to work at the building but did not say where or when he left.

"I would consider him armed and dangerous," Jones said. She said at least five people were taken to a hospital and another had chest pains but did not go to the hospital. Orlando Regional Medical Center said four people were being treated in the emergency department.

She confirmed witnesses told police the shooting started at Reynolds Smith & Hill, a transportation engineering consulting firm in the building.

"You got a guy going into a business on a Friday where people are trying to make an honest living ..." Jones said.

Gerry Gilgo, who works on the floor where the shooting occurred, told The Associated Press she was meeting a co-worker at the elevators for lunch.

"She yelled, 'There are gunshots! There are gunshots! Get back in your office,'" Gilgo said.

Will Halpern, an attorney works on the building's 17th floor, was among the last group to be evacuated. He said the lobby was filled with about 20 officers in SWAT gear, carrying assault weapons, ready to search.

Interstate 4 was closed in both directions through downtown and nearby schools were locked down.

Rows of ambulances lined up outside the building as police snipers took up positions around the building and officers on foot and horseback searched the area.
 

letzrockexpress

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There is one whole heck of a lot of racist speculation being thrown around in this thread. I hope the powers that be are taking a good look...
 

chefdennis

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letz wrote:

There is one whole heck of a lot of racist speculation being thrown around in this thread. I hope the powers that be are taking a good look...

Offended are you??? If so, you know how to deal with it....:D
 

chefdennis

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This was not done by someone that just had enough and snapped, he planned this, its not known of he acted on his own or with another islamic terrorist group..but he certainly was a aware of what he was doing....

Authorities Seek Info on Alleged Ft. Hood Shooter - US - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

Hasan apparently carried out the attacks on his own, but the possibility that he was acting on behalf of some radical group has not been ruled out.

"It's one of those things that he obviously went to kill a lot of people and commit suicide. Maybe in his own mind that he's saving future lives," former FBI agent Brad Garrett said.

On surveillance video obtained by CNN from a 7-11 store near Fort Hood, Hasan is seen wearing traditional Muslim garb, just hours before the shootings.


Add this to the additional info like he cleaned out his appartment and emptied the frig, and gave away copys of the koran all over his neighborhood...and that he was never issued a weapon (whuch is normal for drs not in combat zones) so he had to gain the weapons an ammo ahead of time....he planned this ahead of time and knew exactly what he was doing...
 

LDB

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To gather the guns, ammunition etc. as well as killing all those people means premeditation. It's only insanity if he thought he was shooting numerous bags of potatoes or other produce or similar. Considering his personal habits and prior statements and actions as well as his repeated utterances during his terroristic act it was premeditated.
 

greg334

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With all this Obama money floating around for research, instead of researching the sex lives of the female freshman, may be we should research the mind of the convert. I have met some who are just off the wall, even the devote Muslims I know think they shouldn't be in the religion because of their whole obtuse attitude.
 
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