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Pilgrim

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And all of those agencies are driven by the constitution, their entire reason for existence is to enforce the laws of our land. Nobody is above the law, you may not care your guy broke the law, but anyone who actually cares about our laws does and they are doing what needs to be done.
If that was the case why didn't they prosecute Hillary and why haven't they prosecuted Hunter Biden? Instead, they let her skate and they tried to set a sweetheart deal for the first son. These agencies aren't doing what needs to be done, they're administering a two-tier justice system.
 

ATeam

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OK, let's get this straight:

A Large, Complex but Irrefutable REPORT
Will be presented by Trump himself at a major News conference
Monday, 11:00 A. M., at Bedminister
This is a CONCLUSIVE report
There will be a complete EXONERATION!

Now, tonight, Trump announces: ... event canceled.

I guess a complete EXONERATION! is not important after all. Trump decided it's best to the GA indictment ride as is. No need to be exonerated at all. Everything is just fine in Georgia, and the stable genius is at peace.
 
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RLENT

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If that was the case why didn't they prosecute Hillary

You're attempting to equate an apples and oranges situation as being equivalent - the cases are vastly different.

and why haven't they prosecuted Hunter Biden?

Remains to be seen if they will.

I suspect though, they are going to have some problems with the case if they do pursue a prosecution.

Instead, they let her skate and they tried to set a sweetheart deal for the first son.

From what I've read the deal offered was pretty typical for someone in Hunter's situation.

That the talking heads characterize it as a "sweetheart deal" is unsurprising.

These agencies aren't doing what needs to be done, they're administering a two-tier justice system.

Nah ...
 
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It's not a premise, it's a question. Let me be more direct. In your mind, and regarding Trump, what constitutes a jury of one's peers?
Do you think Trump should have on his jury multiple people that voted for him in the last election?
 
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coalminer

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If that was the case why didn't they prosecute Hillary and why haven't they prosecuted Hunter Biden? Instead, they let her skate and they tried to set a sweetheart deal for the first son. These agencies aren't doing what needs to be done, they're administering a two-tier justice system.
Because Hillary was smart enough to get rid of the evidence, cant convict without that. There is a case against Hunter, what the end result of that case will be is up in the air, but I believe that judge did him a favor, if it goes to trial, they will be hard pressed to get a guilty verdict. But just so you dont think I think he needs to get off without punishment, I am rooting for a guilty verdict.
 
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coalminer

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Do you think Trump should have on his jury multiple people that voted for him in the last election?
I have talked before about the difference between a Trump supporter and a Trump worshipper, they need to make sure that none of his worshippers make it onto a jury. One of his supporters may be a little biased, but when presented with the evidence, they can be swayed.
 

Pilgrim

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Because Hillary was smart enough to get rid of the evidence, cant convict without that. There is a case against Hunter, what the end result of that case will be is up in the air, but I believe that judge did him a favor, if it goes to trial, they will be hard pressed to get a guilty verdict. But just so you dont think I think he needs to get off without punishment, I am rooting for a guilty verdict.
Hillary didn't get rid of all the evidence, and they can prove she destroyed evidence - but Comey and the DOJ let her off the hook. In Hunter's case, they've got him dead to rights on the gun felonies and tax charges - but the new "special prosecutor" will drag his heels and do nothing. Meanwhile Congress forms more committees and makes more noise, signifying nothing.
 

coalminer

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Hillary didn't get rid of all the evidence, and they can prove she destroyed evidence - but Comey and the DOJ let her off the hook. In Hunter's case, they've got him dead to rights on the gun felonies and tax charges - but the new "special prosecutor" will drag his heels and do nothing. Meanwhile Congress forms more committees and makes more noise, signifying nothing.
Just to make it clear, I would love to see both of them locked up for what they did. Nobody is above the law.
 

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Per the Constitution, Trump is Disqualified From the Presidency

This is not a live question now, but it certainly will be when Trump becomes the Republican nominee and later applies for ballot access in 50 states and all U.S. territories.

 
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ATeam

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Do you think Trump should have on his jury multiple people that voted for him in the last election?
I think how one voted in the last election is not a deciding factor in jury selection. As long as the jury selection process is allowed to operate as the court rules provide, I'd be fine if 100% of the jurors voted for Trump in the last election.

The question is not, who did you vote for in 2020? It's, can you grant Trump the presumption of innocence and sit in objective judgement as the prosecution and defense present their cases?

Having personally gone through the jury selection process twice, once for a traffic case, and once for a murder case, I can tell you there is a lot more to jury selection than answering either of the questions above. It is a good process and I trust it as a key component of what the court does to administer justice.
 
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RLENT

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Per the Constitution, Trump is Disqualified From the Presidency

This is not a live question now, but it certainly will be when Trump becomes the Republican nominee and later applies for ballot access in 50 states and all U.S. territories.


Yup.

Seems like it is pretty cut and dry:

Secretaries of States would be doing their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution in denying him access to the ballots in their states.

Should be enough of them willing to do their duty to easily deny him enough electoral votes to reach 270 ... even if others on other states are unwilling to do their own duties.
 

ATeam

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Secretaries of States would be doing their sworn duty to uphold the Constitution in denying him access to the ballots in their states.

Should be enough of them willing to do their duty to easily deny him enough electoral votes to reach 270 ... even if others on other states are unwilling to do their own duties.
I'm thinking if even one state deems Trump ineligible for ballot access, that will be quickly challenged in court and appealed to the US Supreme Court. The SCOTUS ruling will affect all states.

By the time that case gets there, the justices may be tired of Trump's perpetual disdain for the justice system, and especially the courts. This case will give them a legal and convenient flush handle to get Trump circling the bowl. A Trump-adverse SCOTUS ruling will leave him with no chance to win the White House. At that point, most of his supporters will abandon him, and his four (or more) criminal cases will proceed on their merits.

In his cell, Trump can work on his next book, "How to Lose Friends and Alienate People."
 
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Another Brilliant Trump Marketing Move (if Made)

Readers here know I don't like Trump much, but when he makes a brilliant move, I give him credit. If he does what is discussed below, it will be a brilliant move. It's not the move of a party team player. It's not a move that will be appreciated by his primary rivals, but in terms of stealing the spotlight from them and putting it on himself, it is brilliant.

"According to Greg Bluestein, local political operatives in Georgia are buzzing with speculation that Trump might surrender to authorities during the Republican primary debate next Wednesday to steal the other candidates' thunder." (Source: Twitter)
Well, Trump will not be surrendering for arrest in Fulton County, GA during the Republican debates. Instead, he'll be teaming up with Tucker Carlson to steal the spotlight from the FOX News Republican debate. That's not a bad idea as far as spotlight stealing goes, but the surrendering for arrest is better. Nevertheless, I'm sure Trump and Carlson are going to enjoy yanking FOX's chain that night.

 
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