The Trump Card...

[ATeam]

Per the Constitution, Trump is Disqualified From the Presidency

This is not a live question now, but it certainly will be when Trump becomes the Republican nominee and later applies for ballot access in 50 states and all U.S. territories.

Georgia indictment and post-Civil War history make it clear: Trump's actions have already disqualified him from the presidency

US law actually bars former President Donald Trump from holding office ever again. The recent Georgia indictment of Trump helps make the case.

news.yahoo.com

Momentum is building for this view as additional legal scholars chime in.

https://www.cnn.com/2023/08/19/politics/donald-trump-fourteenth-amendment-2024-race/index.html

 

[coalminer]

Mike Lindell debuts new election strategy

"...This is what we've been working on for over a year," Lindell said Thursday in Springfield, Missouri.

www.newsweek.com

At this point even Trump has to believe that Lindell is back on drugs....

 

[ATeam]

Mike Lindell debuts new election strategy

"...This is what we've been working on for over a year," Lindell said Thursday in Springfield, Missouri.

www.newsweek.com

At this point even Trump has to believe that Lindell is back on drugs....

To boost sales of his revolutionary new device, Lindell is throwing in free tin foil hats for operators to wear.

 

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The disqualification of Donald Trump and other legal urban legends

There is a simpler and more obvious explanation for what occurred on January 6, 2021: A political protest became a political riot, and a constitutional theory became constitutional legend.

thehill.com

 

[ATeam]

The disqualification of Donald Trump and other legal urban legends

There is a simpler and more obvious explanation for what occurred on January 6, 2021: A political protest became a political riot, and a constitutional theory became constitutional legend.

thehill.com

We don't have to worry about whether this is an urban legend or not. This is virtually certain to be put to the test and taken to court.

Any official in charge of granting or denying ballot access is being told they can take action under the 14th amendment to deny Trump ballot access. There are dozens if not hundreds of such officials in the US. At least one, and perhaps many, will deny Trump ballot access. They will use the legal reasoning now being promoted by the four legal scholars mentioned above to defend the denial.

Trump will instantly go to court to challenge the denial. If it ever was an urban legend (it's not), it will be a court case then.

 

[Pilgrim]

MSN

Never really seen it explained like this, but it makes total sense.

From the above article - this is a must read for those who don't understand the liberal mindset (emphasis mine):

"Multiple recent studies show that Republicans are as much as 8.5 times more likely to both believe and share fake or false “news” with others than are Democrats. The phenomenon is obvious, actually: while as many as half of Republicans believe the 2020 election was “stolen” from Trump, there’s no similarly disprovable “big lie” embraced by Democrats...

For the time being, we’ll have to double down on pushing real information to deluded friends and family, using the “parental controls” on elderly parents’ TV to block Fox, and sharing progressive media and websites far and wide."

A three word response is all that's necessary to the first paragraph: Russia Collusion Hoax.

This article and others by this author are prime examples of the arrogant, condescending stereotype Democrats and liberals have of Conservatives and middle class Americans in general. Those who doesn't subscribe to their dogmatic worldview - politicians and supporters alike - are considered inferior, ignorant rubes just like Obama's "bitter clingers" and Hillary's "Deplorables". If they get their way they'll put their "parental controls" on the entire population, except for the intelligentsia, their coastal elites and their rulers in DC who know what's best for us.

This explains why Trump won the election in 2016 in spite of all the polls and pundits who said he didn't have a chance and Hillary was a slam dunk to be the next POTUS. The Deplorables weren't listening then and they're not listening now.

 

[coalminer]

So I take it that spreading lies is ok with you? But I get it, conservatives actually know they are wrong, they just can’t admit it because they would have to admit they were wrong.

Trump won in 2016 because he was the lesser of two evils, Hillary was so flawed that the GOP could have picked just about anyone and would have won. If I would have voted in 2016 I would have voted for him.

 

[Pilgrim]

So I take it that spreading lies is ok with you? But I get it, conservatives actually know they are wrong, they just can’t admit it because they would have to admit they were wrong.

SMH

Trump won in 2016 because he was the lesser of two evils, Hillary was so flawed that the GOP could have picked just about anyone and would have won. If I would have voted in 2016 I would have voted for him.

If Trump gets the nomination we're going to be faced with the same situation in 2024.

 

[ATeam]

Trump won in 2016 because he was the lesser of two evils, Hillary was so flawed that the GOP could have picked just about anyone and would have won. If I would have voted in 2016 I would have voted for him.

I think differently. You are right about Hillary. She was a deeply flawed candidate and arrogance, hers and that of her political operators, contributed to their defeat. There exists in America millions of people who feel separated from their version of the American dream, and they are angry about it. Trump knew how to tap into and amplify that, and he continues to do so today. An establishment Republican may have been defeated by Hillary, but Trump provided the rebellious voice many sought.

Pilgrim's analysis of 2016 is more right than wrong. But that was a long time ago. Democrats are not repeating their mistake of arrogance they made then. They are not even thinking about that these days. These days, they have felt the sting of Republican excesses, as with abortion changes, as with Trump's attempt to overthrow the government and seize power for himself, as with voter suppression efforts, as with using Republican super-majority power in state legislatures to expel or silence people they find intolerable. Democrats and like-minded independents have felt the sting and they are mobilizing in ways they did not do for Hillary. They want their rights back and they want to save democracy from Republican excesses.

In 2016, Trump had the initiative. Today, he is on the defensive. As we move toward 2024, the initiatiave is held by the prosecutors, democracy activists and abortion rights activists.

 

[Pilgrim]

In spite of all the media coverage wall-to-wall with Trump indictments, they can no longer cover up the Biden crimes and corruption like they did in 2020. In addition to that, he has a record as POTUS - a bad one - that's nothing less than a millstone around his neck. Top that off with his obvious age and dementia issues along with a running mate with the worst VP favorability ratings in history, and the Democrats have the worst ticket possible. How many Democrat voters will look as this pitiful package and just stay home on election day? The only chance Biden has is to hope Trump is convicted of something serious and that it's enough to deter the GOP voters in Nov. So far that doesn't seem to be the case, and his support is growing with each successive indictment. All the Republicans have to do is make the election about Biden - a high bar to reach since the media will be all Trump all the time unless the House impeaches Biden.

Hillary Clinton's Favorable/Unfavorable ratings on 11/8/2016 were 41.8/54.4

Donald Trump's Favorable/Unfavorable ratings on 11/8/1016 were 37.5/58.5

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president/clintontrumpfavorability.html#!

Joe Biden's Favorable/Unfavorable ratings as of 8/16/2023 are 40.0/54.7

Donald Trump's Favorable/Unfavorable ratings as of 8/16/2023 are 38.5/56.8

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/other/FavorabilityRatingsPoliticalLeaders.html

 

[Pilgrim]

Alan Dershowitz provides a good insight into the political bias of the Trump prosecutions and the effects they could have on our election system going forward if the Democrats continue their scorched earth policy. They're desperate to re-elect a candidate that's currently not mentally or physically fit to carry out the duties of the office, and if re-elected would likely not last through his second term. They owe it to the country to find a better candidate; instead, they try to defeat the opposition by persecution.

" The fact that it was a grand jury indictment, it means nothing. It's the prosecutor who indicted. The best evidence of that is that it was on his website before the grand jury even voted. Now, the whole strategy of all these four cases is to get a conviction before the election, even if they're going to lose on appeal...
And so all four of these cases are designed to get quick convictions in jurisdictions that are heavily loaded against Donald Trump."

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1691291110717390848

 

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[ATeam]

In spite of all the media coverage wall-to-wall with Trump indictments, they can no longer cover up the Biden crimes and corruption like they did in 2020.

I don't think Biden will be a candidate in 2024. His health is failing. He's not likely to make it that far. He may well live many more years, but I don't think he will be able to withstand the rigors of a full-on presidential campaign. That gives VP Harris an edge, but a dark-horse candidate could emerge on the Democratic side.

If it is Harris, it's not the worst thing for Democrats to have a female, pro-choice candidate on the ticket when the abortion rights issue has already proven its ability to mobilize winning majorities of voters, even in red states. A Harris-Trump contest will also make Trump the very old candidate, which will weigh on the minds of voters too.

That's about all the candidate speculation I'm willing to do at this early state. The truth is, no one knows what the political landscape will look like a year from now or closer to the 2024 election. Except for its entertainment value, It's a waste of time to spin detailed candidate scenarios for 2024, when so much more is unknown than known.

 

[ATeam]

Wow! Is This the First of More to Come?

This surprised me. This morning, a Republican US Senator from a red state -- Bill Cassidy (R-La.) -- said Trump should drop out of the race for president.

Will this embolden other Republican elected officials to say the same?

Clearly demonstrating that Trump's legal woes are having a Trump-adverse effect, Cassidy said, "I think Joe Biden needs to be replaced, but I don’t think Americans would vote for someone who’s been convicted, so I’m just very sorry about how all of this is playing out, ...”

Like all US senators, Cassidy is an accomplished politician. He certainly knows his Sunday morning TV remarks will prompt a MAGA backlash. But he made them anyway, and at a time when there was no pressing need or external incentive to do so.

Does Cassidy no longer fear the MAGA backlash? And if so, will others stop fearing MAGA too?

Exact Words:

CNN: "Do you think that Donald Trump should drop out of the race?"
Cassidy: "I think so."

Link to interview

Trump should exit race, Louisiana senator says

"I'm just very sorry about how all of this is playing out," he said.

www.politico.com

 

[muttly]

Wow! Is This Surprise the First of More to Come?

This surprised me. This morning, a Republican US Senator from a red state -- Bill Cassidy (R-La.) -- said Trump should exit the race for president.

Will this embolden others to do the same?

Clearly demonstrating that Trump's legal woes are having a Trump-adverse effect, Cassidy said, "I think Joe Biden needs to be replaced, but I don’t think Americans would vote for someone who’s been convicted, so I’m just very sorry about how all of this is playing out, ...”

Like all US senators, Cassidy is an accomplished politician. He certainly knows his Sunday morning TV remarks will prompt a MAGA backlash. But he made them anyway, and at a time when there was no pressing need or external incentive to do so.

Does Cassidy no longer fear the MAGA backlash? And if so, will others stop fearing MAGA too?

Trump should exit race, Louisiana senator says

"I'm just very sorry about how all of this is playing out," he said.

www.politico.com

No real surprise. It’s well known that Sen. Bill Cassidy has been anti-Trump.

 

[ATeam]

No real surprise. It’s well known that Sen. Bill Cassidy has been anti-Trump.

It is a surprise that he stepped it up to say Trump should drop out. As far as I know, no Republican US senator has called on Trump to drop out of the race, until Cassidy did so today.

The headline you shared answers my question. Cassidy does not fear MAGA. That censure vote did not deter him from saying Trump should drop out.

 

[muttly]

It is a surprise that he stepped it up to say Trump should drop out. As far as I know, no Republican US senator has called on Trump to drop out of the race, until Cassidy did so today.

The headline you shared answers my question. Cassidy does not fear MAGA. That censure vote did not deter him from saying Trump should drop out.

Dude doesn’t have to run for re-election for senate until 2026.

 

[ATeam]

Dude doesn’t have to run for re-election for senate until 2026.

Noteworthy fact

 

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