The Trump Card...

muttly

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My wife and I will do well in either scenario; (a) Trump wins and converts America into an authoritarian state, or (b) Trump loses and democracy prevails.

My wife and I are highly educated white people who own a corporation. We are well equipped to prosper and feel safe in either America. But we prefer democracy because we believe no one should be above the law; and all US citizens should have the equal right to vote, and through that, have an equal chance at life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
Many aren’t able to be safe in a lot of areas. They don’t have the means to escape it currently either. But they bear the brunt of what others with better means vote for woke policies while tucked away in a safer community.

Most people believe in the tenants of equal rights and protection, but some may say that and then rationalize to themselves something entirely different when it comes to:
Trump-
1.indicted with an untested legal theory in NY.
2.indicted because DOJ wants to criminalize the PRA and the rarely used and not pertinent to Presidents and former Presidents Espionage Act.
3. Indicted for challenging an election and using a protocol that was constitutionally accepted in the 1960 Hawaii election with regards to “alternate electors”.
4. Dusting off 150 year old laws that aren’t even relevant and charging Trump.
His supporters:
1.rounded up seniors for using that same constitutionally accepted protocol in sending “alternate electors” and charging them with felonies.

2. The killing of an unarmed female protester Ashli
Babbitt.

3. Many supporters overcharged with trespassing on restricted grounds and DOJ concocting the misapplication of a law parading of an official proceeding.
 

muttly

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Right, but she never told her followers to rush the capitol and prevent Trump from being confirmed. Both her and Trump were sore losers but only one of them DIRECTLY caused riots.
Trump said to go “ peacefully and patriotically”.
There have been many previous large crowds where people “marched on Washington.”

There is evidence ( tapes and witnesses) that much of the violence was escalated due to the police flash banging the crowd who were mostly just milling around.
 

coalminer

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Trump said to go “ peacefully and patriotically”.
There have been many previous large crowds where people “marched on Washington.”

There is evidence ( tapes and witnesses) that much of the violence was escalated due to the police flash banging the crowd who were mostly just milling around.
Yeah, after everything was over, he had plenty of chances to speak before the violence and he didnt, because the violence is what he wanted.
 

ATeam

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1.indicted with an untested legal theory in NY.
2.indicted because DOJ wants to criminalize the PRA and the rarely used and not pertinent to Presidents and former Presidents Espionage Act.
3. Indicted for challenging an election and using a protocol that was constitutionally accepted in the 1960 Hawaii election with regards to “alternate electors”.
4. Dusting off 150 year old laws that aren’t even relevant and charging Trump.
His supporters:
1.rounded up seniors for using that same constitutionally accepted protocol in sending “alternate electors” and charging them with felonies.

2. The killing of an unarmed female protester Ashli
Babbitt.

3. Many supporters overcharged with trespassing on restricted grounds and DOJ concocting the misapplication of a law parading of an official proceeding.
Each of your points has an opposite view, held with equal strength by half or more of the US population. Spin as you wish, but that does NOTHING to heal our land.
 

ATeam

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Trump said to go “ peacefully and patriotically”.
There have been many previous large crowds where people “marched on Washington.”

There is evidence ( tapes and witnesses) that much of the violence was escalated due to the police flash banging the crowd who were mostly just milling around.
Your ability and willingness to single out one fact and make it more important than all others as a basis for false truths is well refined and continuously demonstrated in this forum.

There could be a 50-vehicle pile-up in heavy fog, and horn from an uninvolved car honked a mile away. If it suited your truth, you'd have no trouble using that horn honk to assign blame for the pile-up, and no trouble expecting your readers to somehow fall for it. I guess if this works for you keep doing it. Just note people are not that stupid to buy into such baseless crap.
 
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muttly

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The Left is is now comparing Trump to OBL and a Democrat U.S. senator is referring to his supporters as “ tourists”.
Tell me again how the Left is for equal rights and justice for all people.
 

muttly

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Your ability and willingness to single out one fact and make it more important than all others as a basis for false truths is well refined and continuously demonstrated in this forum.

There could be a 50-vehicle pile-up in heavy fog, and horn from an uninvolved car honked a mile away. If it suited your truth, you'd have no trouble using that to assign blame for the pile-up, and no trouble expecting your readers to somehow fall for it. I guess if this works for you keep doing it. Just note people are not that stupid to buy into such baseless crap.
Actually that is what you do.
 

Pilgrim

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If by some crazy chance he wins next year, it will be the last time we elect a president, Trump and his worshippers will make sure to create a system where they will never have to worry about losing power.
Why didn't he do that in his first term when he had the chance?
 

ATeam

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Why didn't he do that in his first term when he had the chance?
Because he had people in his administration that stopped him. Trump has made it clear that if he is elected again, he will transform the government into his own image by putting loyalists only in key positions.

 

muttly

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Because he had people in his administration that stopped him. Trump has made it clear that if he is elected again, he will transform the government into his own image by putting loyalists only in key positions.

So what? Biden did similar things.
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ATeam

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I Give Trump This

He is a brilliant marketer. The Court and DOJ gave Trump the option of being arraigned today via a Zoom meeting. Trump declined and chose to appear in person instead. On cue, all major media organizations are covering his every move. He is receiving MILLIONS of dollars worth of free publicity as they broadcast his "presidential" motorcade and Trump-branded plane.

Trump owns the news today. The other candidates chafe as they receive little or no air time. Other news is bumped off the screens. Today, it's all Trump all the time.

In his many court dates ahead, Trump will complain that his court appearances constitute election interference. But make no mistake. Trump likes this and wants this. His trips from Mar-a-Lago or Bedminister to campaign events are not covered. His trips to court produce 10 times the air time at no cost to him, and bump every other candidate off the air.

Side Note: As a repeat federal indictee, Trump receives a discount of sort. Because he has been previously indicted on federal charges, his process today will be streamlined.
 
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ATeam

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So what? Biden did similar things.
All presidents replace some or all of the previous administration's appointees with their own. Trump has something different in mind.

He intends to put people in key positions who will not thwart his attempts to subvert the Constitution. He will appoint key leaders who will enthusiastically support his moves to concentrate power in his hands. If Trump wins in 2024, we can kiss American constitutional government with it's checks and balances goodbye. Trump will do everything he can to be president for life.
 
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muttly

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All presidents replace some or all of the previous administration's appointees with their own. Trump has something different in mind.

He intends to put people in key positions who will not thwart his attempts to subvert the Constitution. He will appoint key leaders who will enthusiastically support his moves to concentrate power in his hands. If Trump wins in 2024, we can kiss American constitutional government with it's checks and balances goodbye. Trump will do everything he can to be president for life.
What news sources are you being gaslighted by with this nonsense?
 

ATeam

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If there was a frequent indictee card, Trump would have one.

APR 4, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest

JUN 13, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

AUG 8, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again
 

muttly

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If there was a frequent indictee card, Trump would have one.

APR 4, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest

JUN 13, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

AUG 8, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again
Greg Kelly: “Trump indictment is a ‘Political Hit Job’”
Truth Social
 

Ragman

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If there was a frequent indictee card, Trump would have one.

APR 4, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest

JUN 13, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again

AUG 8, 2023; Donald Trump is Under Arrest ... Again
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