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No, it’s so Smith could get his shady and favorable rulings in the corrupt DC courts first and get a heavily Democratic Grand Jury.
BTW, Joe is a driving force in being a co conspirator and chief enabler in Hunter’s FARA violations.
I dont know about a co conspirator, just because Hunter has threatened that his father would take action there is no real proof that he would.

Enabler, absolutely, most parents enable their drug addict children, its what parents do.

I dont doubt Joe will pardon Hunter if they find him guilty, that was probably the reason they gave him such a good plea deal, no reason to waste money on a trial to have him pardoned.
 
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Why did the Special Counsel have a grand jury and court rulings start in DC and moved it at the end to Florida?
The Special Counsel's office has not publicly stated why they moved the grand jury and court rulings from DC to Florida.

My guess is it is because the investigation was initially triggered in DC, when the National Archives, which is located in DC, grew suspicious and referred the matter to DOJ. When Trump returned some of the documents the National Archives asked him to return, they found irregularities in the boxes that prompted the referral to DOJ. When the referral was received, DOJ would have responded to that DC location. That's where it all started.

I'll further guess that the investigation was later moved to Florida because the later-discovered facts led investigators to believe Trump's Florida home, Mar-a-Lago, was the primary crime scene.
 
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The Special Counsel's office has not publicly stated why they moved the grand jury and court rulings from DC to Florida.

My guess is it is because the investigation was triggered in DC when the National Archives, located in DC, grew suspicious and referred the matter to DOJ. It was in DC that the suspicious documents activity was first discovered. When the referral was received, that's where the DOJ would have gone to investigate. I'll further guess that the investigation was moved to Florida because the initial investigation led investigators to believe Trump's Florida home, Mar-a-Lago, was the primary crime scene.
And WHEN did they believe that? After everything was “done”. Sneaky sneaky
 
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Questions Answered; Week of 7/23/23

Answered This Week:


Yes, the Miami grand jury will continue its investigation and produce additional indictments, even after it first indicted Trump.
Yes, the defamation lawsuit Trump filed against CNN is dismissed because the judge rules it is "not actionable."

Answered in Previous Weeks

No, a special master will not be used.
No, the documents trial will not be postponed until after the election.
No, Trump is not immune from defamation charges because he was president.
No, the falsified records case will not be moved to federal court.
No, the falsified records case will not be dismissed.
No, the falsified records case judge will not recuse.
Yes, the Trump Organization is guilty of tax fraud.
No, executive privilege cannot be used to keep Trump aids from testifying.
No, Fani Willis will not be disqualified from working on the GA election interference case.
No, the GA Special Grand Jury report will not be thrown out.
Yes, a former president of the United States who is again a candidate for president can be indicted, arrested and arraigned.
Yes, the $5 million in damages the jury said Trump must pay Carroll is reasonable.
Yes, the other Carroll case can be amended to include Trump's recent statements and more damages can be sought.
No, the NY AG lawsuit will not be dismissed.
Yes, certain Trump attorney's can be compelled to testify because attorney client privilege does not apply (furtherance of a crime).
Yes, Trump is a rapist.
Yes, Cohen and Trump will settle Cohen's unpaid legal fees lawsuit "in a manner satisfactory to all parties," and this case will not go to trial.
 
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And WHEN did they believe that? After everything was “done”. Sneaky sneaky
I have no idea when they decided to shift the investigation to Florida, and neither do you. If you want to entertain yourself by filling in the blanks, by my guest. Just note, for honesty's sake, that you're making things up in the dark.

Regarding "After everything was "done," nothing is done. The Florida grand jury indicted Trump weeks ago. Just this week, that same jury issued a superseding indictment to add more charges and an additional co-defendant. There has been no news of that grand jury concluding its work. It seems reasonable to assume their investigation continues.
 
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The DOJ Rule of Forbearance

Curious, I asked Google Bard about this today. I share it here for future reference. Note that the rule will not apply until Sept. 6, 2024. A whole lot of investigating and a whole lot of prosecution can go on between now and then (over 11 months). And if "there is clear evidence of criminal activity that poses a danger to the public," the rule may not apply at all.

My guess is the rule will not apply. By Sept. 6, 2024, I think a number of defendants will be found guilty or will plead guilty to crimes committed with or on behalf of Trump. That will provide ample evidence of criminal activity, such that the rule will not apply.

We've already seen judges rule that Trump's attorney client privilege does not apply because there is reason to believe Trump and his attorneys acted in furtherance of a crime. DOJ will have no trouble establishing the basis for not applying the Rule of Forbearance regarding Trump.
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The Department of Justice (DOJ) has a longstanding policy of not prosecuting or investigating a political candidate near an election. This policy is known as the "rule of forbearance" or the "60-day rule."

The rule of forbearance is based on the principle that the DOJ should not use its power to influence the outcome of an election. If the DOJ were to prosecute or investigate a political candidate close to an election, it could be seen as an attempt to sway voters or to give an unfair advantage to one candidate over another.

The rule of forbearance is not a hard and fast rule. The DOJ may decide to prosecute or investigate a political candidate near an election if there is clear evidence of criminal activity. However, the DOJ will generally try to avoid doing so unless there is no other option.

The rule of forbearance is not always popular with politicians or their supporters. However, it is an important principle that helps to ensure that the DOJ is seen as a fair and impartial arbiter of the law.

The rule of forbearance is not codified in law, but it is based on a number of internal DOJ policies and guidelines. These policies and guidelines state that DOJ prosecutors should not select the timing of investigative steps or criminal charges for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party.

The rule of forbearance is generally interpreted to mean that DOJ prosecutors should avoid taking any public action that could be seen as influencing an election. This includes making public statements about an investigation, issuing subpoenas, or filing charges.

There are a few exceptions to the rule of forbearance. For example, the DOJ may decide to prosecute or investigate a political candidate near an election if there is clear evidence of criminal activity that poses a danger to the public.

The rule of forbearance is a complex issue, and there is no easy answer to the question of when it should be applied. However, it is an important principle that helps to ensure that the DOJ is seen as a fair and impartial arbiter of the law.
 
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Yes retaliation.....seams every time the bidens lose charges get put on trump.
A careful review of the relevant Biden-loss dates and the Trump charging dates will show your claim is false.z

The Trump charging dates are easy. They are documented in the indictments or lawsuit filings. What Biden loss dates do you mean exactly? Tell us those and we can compare the charging dates.
 
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I have no idea when they decided to shift the investigation to Florida, and neither do you. If you want to entertain yourself by filling in the blanks, by my guest. Just note, for honesty's sake, that you're making things up in the dark.

Regarding "After everything was "done," nothing is done. The Florida grand jury indicted Trump weeks ago. Just this week, that same jury issued a superseding indictment to add more charges and an additional co-defendant. There has been no news of that grand jury concluding its work. It seems reasonable to assume their investigation continues.
They’ve got about 60 people working on this case at least and couldn’t figure out until right before the indictment that this case belonged in Florida. Riiiiight.
 
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They got about 60 people working on this case at least and couldn’t figure out until right before the indictment that this case belonged in Florida. Riiiiight.
Like I said, if you want to entertain yourself making things up in the dark, be my guest.

A more serious approach to the question you raise would be to see if you can determine the date on which the Florida grand jury was empaneled. When news of this grand jury broke, it seemed it had been in session for a while before the news broke. And it is entirely possible that two grand juries were working this investigation at the same time; each on tasks appropriate to its location.
 
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Regarding Trump's ability to hire and retain top lawyers, I'm not sure the media gets this story entirely right.

Yes, it's true that the Trump legal teams have a high turnover rate. And it's true that some of Trump's attorney's find themselves in deep trouble with the courts and the law because of what they did for Trump. But it does not seem to be true that Trump has trouble recruiting good attorneys to his legal teams.

I cannot recall a single time when Trump showed up in court without multiple attorneys. I know of no time when Trump told a court he needs special help or special consideration because he is not represented. Also, when the CNN, MSNBC, etc. attorney's and legal analysts talk about the attorneys Trump shows up with in court, I cannot recall a single time when they said Trump's attorneys were bad attorneys or otherwise deficient. On the contrary, they often talk about how experienced or skilled Trump's attorneys are.

While he does not always retain them, and while some of them find themselves in legal trouble, it seems to me that Trump has always been able to hire highly respected attorneys when he needs them.

That does not mean Trump hires good attorneys every time. Where it suits him, he will hire dupes to do his bidding. An example was the 60+ plus cases he brought to court claiming election fraud. No consciousous attorney would take such a case but a dupe will. In those cases, Trump was not going for legal wins. He was abusing the legal process to spreading misinformation in his attempt to overturn an election he knew he lost. Some of those dupes are now in deep trouble for bringing these meritless cases to court. But Trump does not mind that a bit. He hired them and used them for a corrupt purpose. Mission accomplished.
 
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A careful review of the relevant Biden-loss dates and the Trump charging dates will show your claim is false.z

The Trump charging dates are easy. They are documented in the indictments or lawsuit filings. What Biden loss dates do you mean exactly? Tell us those and we can compare the charging dates.
What do you expect when you have Hunter Biden’s co conspirator Joe being protected by his corrupt and unethical DOJ. They’re burying Hunter’s FARA violations because that would expose Joe who received proceeds from it and helped facilitate his son’s activities. But they weren’t counting on the whistleblowers coming forward. Now they’re in a serious pickle.
 
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At Trump Rally, PA Republicans Embrace and Promote Mail-in Voting

In this news story, scroll to the end to learn how the PA GOP has embraced mail-in voting. Not only that, they harvested voting registrations and mail-in ballot applications at this event.

Those of you spoke against mail-in voting in this forum may wish to reconsider. Trump and the GOP are all for it.
 
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Trump's Save America PAC Reports on Monday

It's already been leaked by Trump people that Trump's Save America PAC will disclose $40.2 million in legal spending when it files its report on Monday. The Save America PAC is a Trump fundraising mechanism that raises and spends its money in certain ways. Monday's report will tell us exactly how that money has been raised and spent year to date.

Per Google Bard:

"... the Save America PAC is being investigated for fraud. A federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., is examining the formation, fundraising, and expenditures of the PAC. The investigation is part of a broader investigation into the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol.

"Investigators are looking into whether the PAC defrauded donors by using false claims about the 2020 election being stolen to solicit donations. They are also looking into whether the PAC's spending was illegal or improper.

"The Save America PAC has not been charged with any crimes, and it is presumed innocent. However, the investigation is ongoing, and it is possible that the PAC could face charges in the future.


Side Note: The legal bills Rudy Giuliani sent to Trump for the legal work Rudy did remain unpaid. Rudy has to be wondering why other Trump lawyers are getting millions while he receives nothing. It sucks to be Rudy. Watch millions flow freely to others as none flows to you.
 
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At Trump Rally, PA Republicans Embrace and Promote Mail-in Voting

In this news story, scroll to the end to learn how the PA GOP has embraced mail-in voting. Not only that, they harvested voting registrations and mail-in ballot applications at this event.

Those of you spoke against mail-in voting in this forum may wish to reconsider. Trump and the GOP are all for it.
MAGA Republicans should excel at this. Trump supporters are much more enthusiastic than Biden supporters. They just need to reallocate their energy and resources from just gathering on a roadway with Trump signs and knocking on some doors to harvesting those early votes legally and micro target the ones that still haven’t. This legal operation should be in MAGA’s wheelhouse.
 

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Biden regime DOJ's Rule Of Forbiddance( when applying to Hunter)
Don't prosecute for FARA EVER. Because it would expose EVERYTHING.
 
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MAGA Republicans should excel at this. Trump supporters are much more enthusiastic than Biden supporters. They just need to reallocate their energy and resources from just gathering on a roadway with Trump signs and knocking on some doors to harvesting those early votes legally and micro target the ones that still haven’t. This legal operation should be in MAGA’s wheelhouse.
Based on your remarks, is it fair to say you support vote-by-mail?
 
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