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We won't know for sure if Rudy has flipped or not until the indictment comes out regarding Trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. And we may have to wait longer if Rudy is not named in it or the witness list is not yet revealed. But at some point, the witness list will become public info. That's the point where we will know if Rudy has flipped.

I am convinced he has flipped because of the lengthy proffer meeting he completed with DOJ. People who don't flip don't have proffer meetings with DOJ. People who do filp do have proffer meetings. Rudy is a documented liar. That's why he's losing his law license. What he says to the MAGA base about what he has or has not done should be taken with a huge grain of salt.
Rudy hasn’t flipped. The reason he faces losing his bar license is because it is controlled by Leftists. They can only challenge elections. Rules for thee but not for me is their slogan.
 
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Trump is Ajusting to his New Circumstances


... Trump has lost every important challenge in the multiple, major legal cases swirling around him. If past is prologue, Trump is doomed.

The arguments he makes and information he shares on Truth Social for his MAGA supporters simply do not work in court. They serve him well in the public domain, but in a forum where the law and the facts matter, and the rules of evidence and procedure apply, Trump is not doing well.

This puts him on two trajectories that will likely converge in Trump becoming the most popular inmate America has ever had.
 
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Rudy hasn’t flipped. The reason he faces losing his bar license is because it is controlled by Leftists. They can only challenge elections. Rules for thee but not for me is their slogan.
Is Rudy's ADMISSION that he made false and defamatory statements controlled by the leftists too? Has he no mind or will of his own?

 
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Carlos Watch

"(The Hill) – Carlos De Oliveira was indicted on three criminal charges alongside former President Trump and his longtime aide Walt Nauda in a superseding indictment Thursday, part of the classified document investigation at Trump’s Florida club."

Jack Smith has a very strong case against Trump. It would be even stronger if this Mar-a-Lago property manager flipped on Trump. If De Oliveira became a cooperating witness, he could directly implicate Trump in one of the conspiracy to object justice counts, and it would be game over for Trump.

But he has not flipped, and we can be sure that before charging him, DOJ tried everything they could to secure his cooperation. De Oliveira is charged with crimes that will get him major prison time if he is convicted. That's a strong incentive to flip, and he has not flipped.

Will De Oliveira flip? I honestly don't know.

With no codefendants there with him, De Oliveira will be arrested and arraigned on Monday. That might get his attention in a way previous DOJ threats did not. If De Oliveira thought DOJ was bluffing about charging him, he will find out different on Monday. That experience might lead him to change his mind.

On the other hand, he has likely been given numerous opportunities and huge incentives to flip on Trump, and he has not flipped. He may willing to take the hit and go to jail for Trump's benefit.
 

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Is Rudy's ADMISSION that he made false and defamatory statements controlled by the leftists too? Has he no mind or will of his own?

It’s Fake News:
 

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Carlos Watch

"(The Hill) – Carlos De Oliveira was indicted on three criminal charges alongside former President Trump and his longtime aide Walt Nauda in a superseding indictment Thursday, part of the classified document investigation at Trump’s Florida club."

Jack Smith has a very strong case against Trump. It would be even stronger if this Mar-a-Lago property manager flipped on Trump. If De Oliveira became a cooperating witness, he could directly implicate Trump in one of the conspiracy to object justice counts, and it would be game over for Trump.

But he has not flipped, and we can be sure that before charging him, DOJ tried everything they could to secure his cooperation. De Oliveira is charged with crimes that will get him major prison time if he is convicted. That's a strong incentive to flip, and he has not flipped.

Will De Oliveira flip? I honestly don't know.

With no codefendants there with him, De Oliveira will be arrested and arraigned on Monday. That might get his attention in a way previous DOJ threats did not. If De Oliveira thought DOJ was bluffing about charging him, he will find out different on Monday. That experience might lead him to change his mind.

On the other hand, he has likely been given numerous opportunities and huge incentives to flip on Trump, and he has not flipped. He may willing to take the hit and go to jail for Trump's benefit.
Rounding up employees over a document dispute. So classy.
Biden Regime’s DOJ is unhinged.
 
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Funny more charges against trump hours after hunter's sweetheart deal gos bust.
DOJ is compromised. Their prosecutors and the defense thought they could sneak by with a sweetheart deal for Hunter but the judge burst their corrupt bubble.
They are so used to getting everything they want and more from the judges in heavily Democratic areas. Two tier justice.
 
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Trump loses another one

A Trump appointed judge, for what it's worth

 
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Trump loses another one

A Trump appointed judge, for what it's worth

Because it is someone’s opinion. Keep that in mind when the Left wants to disbar and sue people associated with Trump.
 
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Why did the Special Counsel have a grand jury and court rulings start in DC and moved it at the end to Florida?
If I had to guess its because Trump is a resident of Florida? But in the end its going to help him, there are way too many of his worshippers who would lie their way on to that jury. Just like his impeachment "trial" its a waste of time.

The trial is just a way to get the info out into the public, there will be some of his supporters who will see the evidence and then pull their support. As for his worshippers, they dont care what laws he broke, they will support him regardless. Thankfully there are not enough of those to carry him to a win in the election.
 
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If I had to guess its because Trump is a resident of Florida? But in the end its going to help him, there are way too many of his worshippers who would lie their way on to that jury. Just like his impeachment "trial" its a waste of time.

The trial is just a way to get the info out into the public, there will be some of his supporters who will see the evidence and then pull their support. As for his worshippers, they dont care what laws he broke, they will support him regardless. Thankfully there are not enough of those to carry him to a win in the election.
Why did the Special Counsel start in DC instead of Florida?
 
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Why did the Special Counsel start in DC instead of having from the start in Florida?
Because that is where the investigation was initiated? Thats only a guess by the way but it makes sense.

And if you were trying to suggest that Joe Biden was somehow trying to "weaponize" law enforcement to go after Trump, then I would have to give Biden kudos for trying to hold Trump accountable for his crimes. Old Joe may not do much right, but if he is the driving force in this one, he has my thanks.
 
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Because that is where the investigation was initiated? Thats only a guess by the way but it makes sense.

And if you were trying to suggest that Joe Biden was somehow trying to "weaponize" law enforcement to go after Trump, then I would have to give Biden kudos for trying to hold Trump accountable for his crimes. Old Joe may not do much right, but if he is the driving force in this one, he has my thanks.
No, it’s so Smith could get his shady and favorable rulings in the corrupt DC courts first and get a heavily Democratic Grand Jury.
BTW, Joe is a driving force in being a co conspirator and chief enabler in Hunter’s FARA violations.
 
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