The Trump Card...

[RLENT]

Yea I mean the jan 6th commission is so left leaning that even the Republicans on said committee are leaning very left.

Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger ... "left leaning" ...

 

[RLENT]

I only brought up the Whitmer case to give an example about informants infiltrating into groups, organizations, and gatherings.

Ok.

News reports say they were there in the BLM riots in Portland last year. We know there was a heavy amount in the Whitmer case as well. It wouldn’t be a stretch to acknowledge that the Jan6 gathering/protest/riot included them too.

True.

Then it would be about analyzing the video about actions done by people( using the doj’s current shock and awe criteria) and ask questions about why certain individuals haven’t been charged with actions that they’re similarly charging others with. Epps, scaffold guy, etc. appear to protected.

Nope - no real evidence of that.

All we know is that there is no public information available that they have been investigated/interviewed/charged/arrested.

That's something they have in common with about 1500+ other folks who were there.

Carrying the reasoning you're attempting to use to it's ultimate conclusion, one might surmise that there were 1500 informants on Jan 6th.

That's seems to be a little unlikely in my book.

BTW - we've went over this before, but I see we need to go over it again:

That "shock and awe" thing was a creation of Trump's former US Attorney for DC, Michael Sherwin.

He's gone now ...

The issue though isn’t whether there should be informants infiltration but the actions of them and whether they broke the law themselves or instigated, concocted, pushed people to break the law.

Yes ... and to do that you actually first have to get to the place where you have some actual informants.

But regarding the Witmer case, OOF…do they have problems with their lead guy:

One of their lead guys ...

No need to spin it ...

 

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One of their lead guys ...

No need to spin it ...

The news report mentioned in the video said that he was.
The Detroit News also refers to him as central. As well as other news reports. I guess they’re spinning too.

 

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Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger ... "left leaning" ...

More like Democrat equivalent TDS.

 

[RLENT]

The news report mentioned in the video said that he was.

The article you linked said he was one of their lead guys.

R-I-F (reading is fundamental ... spin not so much ... )

The Detroit News also refers to him as central.

So what does that have to do with whether or not he is their "lead" guy ? (singular, as in there was only one)

Here's an article from MLIve where he is referred to as "a lead agent" ... not "THE lead agent":

Ex-FBI agent tied to Whitmer kidnapping investigation pleads to aggravated assault of wife

As well as other news reports. I guess they’re spinning too.

Dunno ... haven't read those articles.

 

[RLENT]

More like Democrat equivalent TDS.

Trump is a present and ongoing threat to the United States of America.

Fortunately, his influence is waning ... as evidenced by a variety of indicators.

Unfortunately, cleaning up the mess he left will probably take a generation.

 

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The article you linked said he was one of their lead guys.

R-I-F (reading is fundamental ... spin not so much ... )





So what does that have to do with whether or not he is their "lead" guy ? (singular, as in there was only one)

Here's an article from MLIve where he is referred to as "a lead agent" ... not "THE lead agent":

Ex-FBI agent tied to Whitmer kidnapping investigation pleads to aggravated assault of wife



Dunno ... haven't read those articles.

You’re grasping. Just take L.

 

[danthewolf00]

Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger ... "left leaning" ...

Yup leaning almost as far left as aoc and the squad.

 

[danthewolf00]

Trump is a present and ongoing threat to the United States of America.

Fortunately, his influence is waning ... as evidenced by a variety of indicators.

Unfortunately, cleaning up the mess he left will probably take a generation.

Your full of it.....Biden is more of a danger to us than trump....trump was at least respected by other nations....Biden is looked on as well a fool.

 

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I wonder if the lead investigator wife abuser, who was also a fervent anti Trump and anti Trump supporter and ranted on Facebook that they burn in hell. I wonder if he took the Trump vaccine?

 

[RLENT]

You’re grasping.

I'm not the one desperately mischaracterizing what was stated in the article that I (you) linked ... in an effort to minimize - yet again - the potentially violent plans of a bunch of rightwing crazies.

Just take L.

You should.

 

[danthewolf00]

Right wing crazies....far better than your left wing crazies that like to set everything on fire.

 

[RLENT]

Your full of it.....

Nope.

Take a look at what those R guys up in MI are saying:

Most Trump endorsements in Michigan races likely to 'fail,' Shirkey says

And when Trump endorsed getting the jab this past week and said something bordering on a "nice thing" about Biden, the extreme right lost their proverbial minds:

Fringe factions of MAGA world are imploding after Trump publicly advocated for the COVID-19 vaccine



I was over on RedState reading an article about it and just happened to take a look at the comments to the article and folks were coming unglued ...

And that's not the half of it.



And I'm NOT the one claiming that Lix Cheney and Adam Kinzinger are leftwing ... a premise that qualifies as certifiably unhinged.

Biden is more of a danger to us than trump....

Nah ... but if you behave yourself and don't do any insurrectioning, Uncle Joe will probably give you a Tootsie-Pop.

trump was at least respected by other nations....

No.

Biden is looked on as well a fool.

No, he isn't ...

 

[RLENT]

Right wing crazies....far better than your left wing crazies that like to set everything on fire.

Nope.

And neither is worth a mouthful of warm spit.

 

[RLENT]

I understand that the Jan 6th Committee plans to obtain the full video from that day.

Apparently, he had to do multiple takes (why it took him so long to issue a statement) ... because he kept saying stuff that was inappropriate and wouldn't have defused the situation and his advisors kept making him do it over and over.

Those out takes should exist ... since they are part of the Presidential records of the Administration.

Should be very interesting.

 

[danthewolf00]

I understand that the Jan 6th Committee plans to obtain the full video from that day.

Apparently, he had to do multiple takes (why it took him so long to issue a statement) ... because he kept saying stuff that was inappropriate and wouldn't have defused the situation and his advisors kept making him do it over and over.

Those out takes should exist ... since they are part of the Presidential records of the Administration.

Should be very interesting.

Now wait a min he was blocked from Facebook and Twitter plus most of the main stream news....but you all say he should have been out on tv and such saying to stop.....you real are full of p o o p .
He got a recording out 45 mins after the crap hit the fan.....when the media doesn't back you how did you expect him to calm everyone down?

 

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Now wait a min he was blocked from Facebook and Twitter plus most of the main stream news....but you all say he should have been out on tv and such saying to stop.....you real are full of p o o p .
He got a recording out 45 mins after the crap hit the fan.....when the media doesn't back you how did you expect him to calm everyone down?

Those pesky facts.

 

[muttly]

I'm not the one desperately mischaracterizing what was stated in the article that I (you) linked ... in an effort to minimize - yet again - the potentially violent plans of a bunch of rightwing crazies.



You should.

Multiple news outlets said he led the investigation. The video of the news report that I linked stated 8 seconds in to it that he led the investigation and later on it said his signature was on the charging document.
I’m not minimizing anything just think people should have a healthy skepticism of potential overreach and malfeasance.

 

[Pilgrim]

Those pesky facts.

The first rioter entered through a broken window at 2:12PM. Trump's first tweet calling for peaceful demonstrations went out at 2:38PM.
The timeline of events can be easily verified through various web searches.

 

[RLENT]

Now wait a min he was blocked from Facebook and Twitter plus most of the main stream news....

Gonna make another attempt to deflect ... and place the blame on the media I see.

Well, that's just incorrect.

Trump was permanently banned from Twitter on Wednesday January 8th 2020 ... after he made two tweets on that Wednesday that Twitter deemed inappropriate.

You can read about that below:

Twitter bans President Trump permanently

January 6th 2020 was the day the riot and insurrection happened.

As for FaceBook, similar situation: he was tossed off there on Wednesday January 8th 2020.

You can read about that below:

What Happened When Trump Was Banned on Social Media

January 6th 2020 was the day the riot and insurrection happened.

Appears that neither company made a formal announcement about it until the following Friday, as they took a day or so to consider what to do.

Again: January 6th 2020 was the day the riot and insurrection happened.

but you all say he should have been out on tv and such saying to stop.....you real are full of p o o p .

Not me ... it's you.

BTW: The only problem some people have with the insurrection is ... that it didn't succeed ...

He got a recording out 45 mins after the crap hit the fan.....

You're wrong again:

The Timeline from Wikipedia:

Trump was in the West Wing of the White House at the time of the attack.[325] He was "initially pleased" and refused to intercede when his supporters breached the Capitol.[326] Staffers reported that Trump had been "impossible to talk to throughout the day".[327] Concerned that Trump may have committed treason through his actions, White House Counsel Pat Cipollone reportedly advised administration officials to avoid contact with Trump and ignore any illegal orders that could further incite the attack to limit their prosecutorial liability under the Sedition Act of 1918.[328]

Shortly after 2:00 p.m. EST, as the riot was ongoing and after Senators had been evacuated, Trump placed calls to Republican senators (first Mike Lee of Utah, then Tommy Tuberville of Alabama), asking them to make more objections to the counting of the electoral votes to try to overturn the election.[264] At 2:47 p.m., as his supporters violently clashed with police at the Capitol, Trump tweeted, "Please support our Capitol Police and Law Enforcement. They are truly on the side of our Country. Stay peaceful!"[329] The Washington Post later reported that Trump did not want to include the words "stay peaceful".[330] Pence was evacuated by the Secret Service from the Senate chamber around 2:13.[264][331]

During the riot, Chief of Staff Mark Meadows received messages from Donald Trump Jr., as well as Fox News hosts Sean Hannity, Laura Ingraham, and Brian Kilmeade, urging him to tell Trump to condemn the mayhem at the risk of his reputation.[332] By 3:10, pressure was building on Trump to condemn supporters engaged in the riots. By 3:25, Trump tweeted, "I am asking for everyone at the U.S. Capitol to remain peaceful. No violence! Remember, WE are the Party of Law & Order – respect the Law and our great men and women in Blue", but he refused to call upon the crowd to disperse.[329] By 3:40, several congressional Republicans called upon Trump to more specifically condemn violence and to tell his supporters to end the occupation of the Capitol.[333][334]

By 3:50 p.m., White House Press Secretary Kayleigh McEnany said the National Guard and "other federal protective services" had been deployed.[329] At 4:06 p.m. on national television, President-elect Biden called for President Trump to end the riot. At 4:22 p.m., Trump issued a video message on social media that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube later took down. In it, he praised his supporters and repeated his claims of electoral fraud.[62][329] At 6:25 p.m., Trump tweeted: "These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long" and then issued a call: "Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!"[63][329][335] At 7:00, Rudy Giuliani placed a second call to Lee's number and left a voicemail intended for Tuberville urging him to make more objections to the electoral votes as part of a bid "to try to just slow it down".[264]

So to recap:

1. Riot is ongoing at 2:00 PM Eastern.

2. Trump issued a tweet at 2:47 PM Eastern which closes with the words ... "Stay peaceful!" ... which WaPo later reported he did not want to include, probably after someone actually "in the room" decided they needed to sing ...

3. Trump issues another tweet by 3:25 PM ... but refuses to call upon the crowd to disperse.

4. At 4:22 PM Eastern - more than 2 hours and 20 minutes after the riot began - Trump posts a video message on social media which was later taken down by Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube ... ostensibly because it was inappropriate in light of what had just taken place.

5. Finally at 6:25 PM Eastern Trump tells his supporters to go home ... more than 4 1/2 hours after the riot started.

when the media doesn't back you how did you expect him to calm everyone down?

And you say Democrats are the ones who won't take responsibility ...

What a hoot !