The Trump Card...

[muttly]

I'm curious what the thought process of someone who is really paying attention to what the Dems are doing with these secret interviews, conducted in a basement, and without due process or transparency? They don't seem to have much integrity. It's fine as long as the end result is satisfactory to them.

 

[dalscott]

Conviction i was referring to. The Dems, they'll do anything cockimani to damage this President.

More hypocrisy. Look at all the Republicans did to Bill Clinton and tried to do to Obama. And they had FAR less reason to do so.
You can dish it out but you sure as hell cant take it.


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[muttly]

More hypocrisy. Look at all the Republicans did to Bill Clinton and tried to do to Obama. And they had FAR less reason to do so.
You can dish it out but you sure as hell cant take it.


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There were no attempts at impeachment with Obama.
Mueller report: No collusion
Dems: Ends justify the means. You ok with that?

 

[coalminer]

Dems: Ends justify the means. You ok with that?

Politics 101 both sides are guilty of that.

 

[ATeam]

I do not have much use for pollsters or polls , and i suspect quite a few of the folks who voted for President Trump are just as dubious of polls and pollsters

You are correct. You don't have much use for pollsters or polls, and quite a few of the folks who voted for President Trump are just as dubious. The people who have great use for pollsters and polls include the senators who will be voting in the impeachment trial and the political operatives they employ. Indeed, most if not all of these senators spend big money to have polling done when they are campaigning. When a poll of any kind comes out, the political professionals pour over and dissect the data with great interest.

 

[Turtle]

More hypocrisy. Look at all the Republicans did to Bill Clinton and tried to do to Obama. And they had FAR less reason to do so.

Far less reason? The Kenneth Star investigation returned 11 actual counts of guilt on Bill Clinton. They weren't made up, and he was impeached on those charges. The Mueller investigation returned exactly zero counts of guilt, and that's not good enough for the Dems, so they're making up stuff instead.

I guarantee you that if the Dems had anything, anything at all, they wouldn't be holding these depositions in secret. For the last 3 years, every time they think they've finally got him on something, they're very, very public with it. They get it out there. But it always falls apart, because their grasping at straws, nothing solid, because they want it to be true so bad they'll grab at anything.

Look at this phone call with Ukraine. "We got him now! We got a true blue, genuine, bona fide whistleblower! And you can't refute what a whistleblower says!"

Then Trump did the unexpected, the unthinkable, he released the transcript of the call.

Well, crap. Now they got nothing again, so they've gone dark to try and manufacture something. They gotta come up with something. How they get it, doesn't matter.

 

[ATeam]

Public opinion will be important, but only if it's overwhelming. And by that I mean 60, 65 percent of Republican voters will have to be in favor of removing the President from office. We haven't seen anywhere near the kind of evidence required to move the needle like that.

The trajectory is the thing to watch. Public sentiment in favor of impeach and remove has been growing steadily since Peolosi's 9/24/19 impeachment inquiry announcement.

 

[davekc]

One thing for sure, his crowds aren't shrinking. The secret hearings in basements isn't helping the democrats cause.

 

[muttly]

The cloaked in secrecy Dems are chasing another nothingburger with this Ukraine thing.

 

[blackpup]

You are correct. You don't have much use for pollsters or polls, and quite a few of the folks who voted for President Trump are just as dubious. The people who have great use for pollsters and polls include the senators who will be voting in the impeachment trial and the political operatives they employ. Indeed, most if not all of these senators spend big money to have polling done when they are campaigning. When a poll of any kind comes out, the political professionals pour over and dissect the data with great interest.

What point to professionals pouring over the data presented by the pollsters , if the results are not accurate ? My thoughts are that a substantial percentage of likely voters will not respond or participate in the polls

 

[Moot]

Instead of debating political opinions, people of various political stripes will encourage and coach each other in their fitness journeys. For example, I've seen a white male body-builder who drives to the gym in a riser-kit pickup with Trump stickers on it interact with a morbidly-obese black woman who relies on the public-transportation handicapped bus to get to the gym. As the woman worked hard on the recumbent bike, the man approached to tell her her how inspiring it is to see her in the gym working as hard as she is.

When things like that happen, I reinforce the behavior by telling the man how cool it was what he just did for that woman, and telling the woman that it is really true that you inspire him with your commitment to fitness. In a political setting, these two might on opposite sides arguing loudly their points. In our gym, they are friends who have their fitness work in common and inspire each other.

A very touching story! Your use of stereotypes exemplifies the dichotomy between the two characters. To give these two even more of that "central casting" appeal I would suggest the following; give the white body-builder a ballcap, preferable a MAGA hat and put the morbidly obese black woman in an I ♥ POPEYES tee-shirt.

If you want to do away the stereotypical characters, switch their roles. Make the black woman a body-builder who wears a MAGA hat, drives a jacked up pickup truck with Trump stickers on it. The white man is morbidly obese, wears an I ♥ POPEYES tee-shirt and relies on the public transportation handicap bus to get to the gym and the grocery store.

Over time a friendship blossoms. The black woman body builder spends less time with the weights and more time doing pilates and yoga. As she softens, her breasts and hips become more prominent. The morbidly obese man is turning fat into muscle.

One night after the entire area has been evacuated because of a hurricane the couple goes to the gym. The gym wasn't properly secured, the pair gains access and begins working out. A hurricane spawned tornado destroys the gym leaving the two trapped by rubble. Neither is seriously hurt but they fear they might not be found until it is too late. The woman confesses that she was born male but always felt she was really a female trapped in a man's body. She is now in the pre-sex change process awaiting sex reassignment surgery. The man confesses that he has been gay his entire life but has been in denial, leading to his obesity. Now that he has shed hundreds of pounds he feels comfortable coming out of the closet.

The couple is eventually rescued and get married. They adopt 7 Guatemalan children who had been living in a cage in Texas. They buy a house, a family gym membership and sell the jacked up truck. They all use public transportation and lived happily ever after.

 

[muttly]

Who sets foreign policy? The President or unelected bureaucrats at the State Department?
#It'snottheirjob

 

[coalminer]

Who sets foreign policy? The President or unelected bureaucrats at the State Department?
#It'snottheirjob

He may set foreign policy but he is supposed to listen to the people who are considered experts. This is the one big problem Trump has, he thinks he knows it all and does not need anyone to give him good advice.

 

[blackpup]

He may set foreign policy but he is supposed to listen to the people who are considered experts. This is the one big problem Trump has, he thinks he knows it all and does not need anyone to give him good advice.

I voted for President Trump hoping he would implement policies resulting in at least a partial draining of the national bureaucratic DC swamp, of which the experts you refer to are a large part of the problems the US has.

 

[coalminer]

I voted for President Trump hoping he would implement policies resulting in at least a partial draining of the national bureaucratic DC swamp, of which the experts you refer to are a large part of the problems the US has.

I guess you and I have very different definitions of what "the swamp" means. To me its all the paid corporate lobbyists who do their best to buy laws that help them take advantage of all of us. The ACA is perfect example of this, bought and paid for by the insurance companies.

 

[muttly]

He may set foreign policy but he is supposed to listen to the people who are considered experts. This is the one big problem Trump has, he thinks he knows it all and does not need anyone to give him good advice.

Apparently this "expert" didn't even talk to Trump.

 

[blackpup]

I guess you and I have very different definitions of what "the swamp" means. To me its all the paid corporate lobbyists who do their best to buy laws that help them take advantage of all of us. The ACA is perfect example of this, bought and paid for by the insurance companies.

Yes I would agree that the lobbyist and shills are a serious problem .A large part of the lobbyist are former elected office holders and executive branch bureaucrats

 

[Turtle]

He may set foreign policy but he is supposed to listen to...

Supposed to? No, not even. Some of those experts in sure may think he's supposed to listen to what they tell him, but the only thing he's supposed to do is make executive decisions. He has advisors and other experts that he can use of he chooses, but he's not supposed to listen to them m

I guess you and I have very different definitions of what "the swamp" means. To me its all the paid corporate lobbyists who do their best to buy laws that help them take advantage of all of us.

The lobbyists aren't the swamp, they're the Swamp People who go into the swamp looking for dinner.

 

[blackpup]

Supposed to? No, not even. Some of those experts in sure may think he's supposed to listen to what they tell him, but the only thing he's supposed to do is make executive decisions. He has advisors and other experts that he can use of he chooses, but he's not supposed to listen to them m
The lobbyists aren't the swamp, they're the Swamp People who go into the swamp looking for dinner.

What if the swamp people are former denizens of the swamp ?

 

[Turtle]

Things start to smell like swamp poopie.

By sheer coincidence, I'm here in DC right now. And it smells like poopie.

OK, sure, it's blurry. That's due to the intense poopie smell.