The Trump Card...

muttly

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If you study the history of economic expansions and recessions, you will learn these occur in cycles. Expansions are followed by recessions, which are followed by expansions, and so on. The forces that drive the economy are more powerful than than any president has ever been. At present, we are on the tail end of an expansion. While it's difficult to know when the next recession will begin, we know it will happen. If it happens when Trump is in office, that recession will be no more Trump's doing than the expansion that began 2009 (the present expansion) was Obama's doing.
I wouldn't downplay a President's tax, trade, and regulatory policy and how it affects the economy.
 
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Turtle

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Lynching...
(of a mob) kill (someone), especially by hanging, for an alleged offense with or without a legal trial.
 

Ragman

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To equate the impeachment process with a violent act like a lynching is..........

I just have no words.
 

muttly

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Whats even more amazing is how some otherwise rational people just dont get it.
You know, the word hyperbole or maybe rhetoric. That's what Trump was using. He's saying there is a mob like action that the Dems, Deep State actors in the IC, and the media are doing to get him using possible criminal malfeasance and without due process. Not necessary by hanging, although some talk like...
Same with the term witch hunt. He doesn't actually mean burning a witch at the stake.
 

Turtle

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It was just as wrong then......
Just... as a fun fact-type rhetorical question ...

Does anyone know what group of people engaged in the overwhelming majority of mob lynchings in US history? And by overwhelming majority, I mean like 95-98% of them.

Anyone? Buehler? Buehler?

A hint... It was the same group of people who were dead set against abolishing slavery.

Another hint... It was the same group who invented the KKK.

Final hint... It's the same group of people in the US House of Representatives who are trying, behind closed doors and largely in secret, to engage in a political lynching of the President.

Yes! That's right! It was Democrats. Mobs and mobs of them. They were lynching black folks for fun and recreation, mainly to keep them from voting. And they lynched a lot of white Republicans for having the unmitigated gall of daring to oppose the lynchings. It was about 5:1 blacks to whites who were lynched by Democrats.

The Democrats have a long and rich history of violence and intimidation against those who disagree with them or those who stand in their way. So go ahead, clutch your pearls, be outraged. Nobody is really buying it anymore.
 
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blackpup

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I do not have much use for pollsters or polls , and i suspect quite a few of the folks who voted for President Trump are just as dubious of polls and pollsters
 
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Moot

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The latest polls are getting there, but personally I am going to do something that at age 48( next week)that I have never done,is to register to vote so that I can do my part to make sure he is not re-elected.
Trump inspired you to register to vote after 30 years of never voting, that's great! But, if you are doing this solely to prevent Trump from getting re-elected, don't waste your time. This whole impeachment mess started November 9, 2016 when Trump stole the election with help from Russia. What makes you think he won't do it again? To win the 2020 election he will not only need assistance from Russia but also Ukraine.
 

Turtle

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... public opinion will be an important consideration of the Senators...
Public opinion will be important, but only if it's overwhelming. And by that I mean 60, 65 percent of Republican voters will have to be in favor of removing the President from office. We haven't seen anywhere near the kind of evidence required to move the needle like that.

But regardless of the polls, public opinion might not be as important to Republicans as you might think. Republican Senators will occasionally cite polling, but usually only to make a point, age rarely to justify a vote.

Keep in mind that the thought processes of Democrats and Republicans are very different.

Democrats are goal oriented, outcome oriented, and how they get there is, the ways and means, is pretty much irrelevant. They mean it when they say "By any means necessary." The end result is all that matters.

Republicans, on the other hand, are systems oriented, process oriented, and believe if the process is fair, the system used to get there is fair, then the outcome is fair, and will accept whatever outcome there is.

You can see these differences in thought playing out daily in the news.
 
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