Tennessee Insurrection

[ATeam]

The “cone incident’.

As you posted this, I was revising my post. I used that phrase. I think that image is going to be a big problem for Jones and his friends. It's an opposing candidate's dream-come-true image; perfect for use in campaign ads, billboards and brochures.

 

[muttly]

I was not aware of that information until you posted it. Looking into it, I found the rest of the story (link below).

I'll add that any crime committed by any person, be they a state representative or ordinary citizen, should be charged and heard in a court of law. That's exactly what happened in this case. One charge was dismissed in court because the burden of proof was not met. Other charges were not prosecuted by prosecutors for reasons unknown (but I suspect it was because there was insufficient evidence, other evidence was not known at the time, or the alleged crimes were not committed at all).

That does not let Jones off the hook. If evidence is now available that was not previously available, Jones should be charged for that crime(s). Better still, if crimes were actually committed Jones would do well to confess, plead guilty, apologize, express remorse, and accept the consequences.

While it is certain Jones' critics will use this information to make it about the person, that shifts the topic off what I think is the more important issue.

Even if Jones is a dirtbag of the worst kind, he remains eligible to run for and be elected to public office. The people's election choices matter. As long as Jones is not convicted of any disqualifying crimes, it would be an abuse of power for a party to expel the voters' properly elected representative from his state house seat.

To me, it is troubling to see the reports and videos you point to. I do not condone that behavior by Jones, and any crimes he committed should be charged and brought to trial. Once there, I'm willing to abide by the decision of the court and/or jury. They are there. They are privy to all the information. They are considering it in a forum that is fair to both sides.

While Jones's 2020 behavior is troubling, if he was found guilty of disqualifying crimes, it would not trouble me in the least to see him expelled from his seat for that reason.

Regardless, this information will taint Jone's reputation. It's not a good look, just like it's not a good look to be a presidential candidate whose company has been convicted of tax fraud. It will be interesting to see if this weakens Jones' standing with the voters and if an opposition candidate surfaces in the upcoming special election.

Believing the Justin Jones expulsion to be an unjust act (the punishment was out of proportion to the offense) and an abuse of power by the Republican supermajority, I consider it a victory for democracy that he was reappointed. But I don't care if he is reelected or someone else. in the upcoming special election. For me, it's not about the person who fills that seat. It's about the integrity of the process by which that seat is filled and allowed to remain filled.

Another item of interest will be to see if the Jones invitation to visit the White House still stands now that this information has come to light. Biden may decide it is not a good look to host someone at the White House who is on video using a traffic cone as a weapon. That video will get nationwide air time if Jones shows up in Washington. The media will love the drama, which will overshadow every other thing Biden hoped to accomplish by inviting Jones for a visit. And it will put Biden in a difficult spot trying to explain away the traffic cone incident.

Assault charge dismissed against Nashville activist Justin Jones

Jones was charged with assaulting a Tennessee Highway Patrol trooper on July 11, 2020.

www.wsmv.com

The image and video won’t matter much. He’ll be re-elected and the WhiteHouse won’t disinvite him. Mark these two predictions down.

 

[LDB]

Jones is worthless leftist criminal trash to put it bluntly. The entire TN congress and system is a ridiculous joke for not upholding the law and their Constitution. They deserve what they get and Jones deserves a nice vacation at the gray bar inn.

 

[Pilgrim]

More about Justin Jones, his background, and his standards:

Job history: Community Organizer, Policy Specialist for Environmental Nonprofit, and Minister

"I have relationships on Capitol Hill which is why my campaign has been endorsed by State Rep. Gloria Johnson..."

"John Lewis has been a guiding force in my life...
I live by his wisdom that “When you see something that is not right, not fair, not just, you have to find a way to get in the way. To get in good trouble, necessary trouble."

Meet Justin Jones, candidate for Tennessee House District 52

The Tennessean Editorial Board invited Aug. 4 primary election gubernatorial, congressional and legislative candidates to fill out our questionnaire.

news.yahoo.com

 

[muttly]

 

[ATeam]

If you are going to criticize a candidate or politician for using the word "fight," you'll have to criticize nearly everyone of them. Does MAGA not fight to make America Great Again? Do Republicans not fight for the unborn?

 

[muttly]

If you are going to criticize a candidate or politician for using the word "fight," you'll have to criticize nearly everyone of them. Does MAGA not fight to make America Great Again? Do Republicans not fight for the unborn?

It was humor.
Last time I checked though The Left is investigating and hoping to indict Trump for taking his words on Jan6 about "fighting for your country" as orders to storm the Capitol and conduct a coup. I'm glad you see the stupidity of it.

 

[ATeam]

Actually, there was news that helped us get to know Justin Jones a little better.

Will Jones be Undone by the 2020 Images?

Out of curiosity, I've been watching to see how the images of Jones atop a police car and using a traffic cone to assault a four-wheeler driver would play out in the news. A search of Bing and Google shows the images and associated stories do not have legs. In other words, the stories are now days old and they are not being retold.

I saw one interview where Justin Pearson and Gloria Johnson were featured and Jones was absent. I thought that was interesting and may be a sign of things to come. But today, I see a report that features Jones in which he is a boisterous as ever, now talking about organizing people to physically visit Tennessee's poor red districts to tell people how the Republican House super-majority is catering to the interests of the wealthy, and not to the interests of the poor citizens of those districts. (Campaigning on the economic divide in a poor district where hospitals are being closed and services are being cut, and the quality of life is decreasing as the rich get richer is not an unwise strategy.)

So, for now at least, it seems Jones is unencumbered by his 2020 images. When the Tennessee Three story dominated the national news for a week or more, some likened Jones to Martin Luther King, Jr. But MLK never stood atop a police car and he never used a traffic cone as a weapon against a motorist who was just passing through.

Jones was charged and brought to court for some of his antics, and the charges were dismissed or not further pursued by prosecutors. Thus, Jones retains the presumption of innocence in a court of law. But in the court of public opinion, images like these could come to be politically fatal ... someday, but not so far.

 

[muttly]

Will Jones be Undone by the 2020 Images?

Out of curiosity, I've been watching to see how the images of Jones atop a police car and using a traffic cone to assault a four-wheeler driver would play out in the news. A search of Bing and Google shows the images and associated stories do not have legs. In other words, the stories are now days old and they are not being retold.

I saw one interview where Justin Pearson and Gloria Johnson were featured and Jones was absent. I thought that was interesting and may be a sign of things to come. But today, I see a report that features Jones in which he is a boisterous as ever, now talking about organizing people to physically visit Tennessee's poor red districts to tell people how the Republican House super-majority is catering to the interests of the wealthy, and not to the interests of the poor citizens of those districts.

So, for now at least, it seems Jones is unencumbered by his 2020 images. When the Tennessee Three story dominated the national news for a week or more, some likened Jones to Martin Luther King, Jr. But MLK never stood atop a police car and he never used a traffic cone as a weapon against a motorist who was just passing through.

Jones was charged and brought to court for some of his antics, and the charges were dismissed or not further pursued by prosecutors. Thus, Jones retains the presumption of innocence in a court of law. But in the court of public opinion, images like these could come to be politically fatal ... someday, but not so far.

Not a chance it will prevent him from getting re-elected. It’s considered “good trouble” by the Left, and even encouraged.

 

[muttly]

What resolution has there been with the physical assault with the traffic cone almost three years ago? No arrest or charges? I mean, it’s on tape. Aren’t there any repercussions in a court of law for assaulting a person that could have caused great bodily harm to them?

 

[LDB]

Of course it won't matter. Democrat voters have no morals and no conscience. They don't care about criminal actions. They only care about what they are given and what they can take. They are soulless evil.

 

[Pilgrim]

Will Jones be Undone by the 2020 Images?

A search of Bing and Google shows the images and associated stories do not have legs. In other words, the stories are now days old and they are not being retold.

It should come as no surprise that Jones' images and stories aren't found on Bing and Google, considering the liberal bias in these search engines. And of course they were not covered in past or present years by the mainstream media, MSNBC, CNN, etc, because (a)BLM riots were commonplace in 2020 and (b)they don't fit today's preferred narrative for these two "heroes". But none of that makes any difference for Jones because the constituents in his district don't care. They probably already knew about these arrests and considered his rap sheet to be more street cred.

 

[muttly]

That’s what I was thinking. Google and Bing would bury that information in their algorithms.
But apparently that “cone incident” was resolved with no charges, or dropped?
I don’t know. The resolution of that is hard to find.

 

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[ATeam]

What resolution has there been with the physical assault with the traffic cone almost three years ago? No arrest or charges? I mean, it’s on tape. Aren’t there any repercussions in a court of law for assaulting a person that could have caused great bodily harm to them?

I do not know the answer to your question. One thought is no victim came forward with a complaint. That driver sped off. Does anyone know who he/she is? If not, that may be why there is no case. The cops are not going to go searching for a victim. They have their hands full with calls that come in.

 

[danthewolf00]

I do not know the answer to your question. One thought is no victim came forward with a complaint. That driver sped off. Does anyone know who he/she is? If not, that may be why there is no case. The cops are not going to go searching for a victim. They have their hands full with calls that come in.

That video is evidence of a crime......period.

 

[Pilgrim]

That video is evidence of a crime......period.

Remember, Nashville is a bastion of liberalism in the middle of a red state. Notice that in spite of the outstanding police response to the Covenant School shooting they still haven't released the transgender shooter's manifesto. That core incident has been totally eclipsed by the antics of these three bush league politicians.

Apparently, it doesn't take much of a resume to get elected in TN House district 52. Jones has never held a job. He graduated from Fisk, attended (past tense) Vanderbilt Divinity School, claims to be a minister and community organizer, and has been arrested fourteen times in various protests and riots - but no jail time from the Democrat prosecutors. So what does he bring to the table as a state representative? We've just witnessed a good example.

 

[ATeam]

That video is evidence of a crime......period.

It may be, but if the police do not know who the victim is and if the victim does not come forward, no arrest will be made and no charges will be filed.

 

[muttly]

No jail time after all those offenses? Looks like there is some favoritism going on in the criminal justice system with meting out punishment as long as the cause is considered just.

 

[ATeam]

No jail time after all those offenses? Looks like there is some favoritism going on in the criminal justice system with meting out punishment as long as the cause is considered just.

In the case that was charged and prosecuted, the judge found the prosecutors did not meet the burden of proof. The other charges were dropped. One can claim favoritism. Another could say the judge was correct and and the prosecutors were correct and there were no cases worth prosecuting. We'll never know, so if you want to spin it one way, go ahead. Spin counts for nothing. The outcome is what matters, and in this case the outcome is Jones retains the presumption of innocence in court, and he is damaged in the court of public opinion.