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ATeam

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I wonder what was going through the minds of the parents of the three 9 year-olds who were killed at the Covenant School when they saw these videos and pictures?
The only way to know that is to ask them. I know nothing about their mindset but it is not inconceivable they consider Jones one of their chief advocates and friends. On the other hand, they may consider the casket gesture highly offensive or heartbreaking. Unless they tell us, we won't know what they think and feel about Jones and his use of that prop.
Even if Jones intended to seriously represent the interests of the constituents of TN 52, he obviously have the mental capacity to carry it out. However this guy is all about attracting attention to himself. He's a professional protester and demonstrator; a "community organizer". The confounding reality is that the public has to tolerate the antics of people like this because TN law doesn't allow for him to be removed from the legislative office for which he is unfit. To place blame on the Republicans for providing him a stage for his antics doesn't stick - that's on the voters of his district. The majority in the House is obligated and required to enforce the rules, and that's what they did when they voted him out.
And they issued a statement welcoming him back. Was that in the rules too?
 
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ATeam

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To place blame on the Republicans for providing him a stage for his antics doesn't stick - that's on the voters of his district.
Had the super-majority and/or the speaker stripped him of his committee assignments and/or censured him and left it at that, the name Justin Jones would be as obscure today in the country as it was before. His district voters did not expel him, the Republican super-majority did; and that's what elevated his platform and national name recognition. His national ascendancy did not begin when he was reinstated by the voters. It began when he was expelled by the Republicans.

After learning of his record, police car dance and traffic cone antics, I'm no fan of Jones and it would not bother me even a little if his district's voters put someone else in his seat. But, for now at least, the voters want him so he remains in the spotlight, using it to his full advantage to get his message out, build support and, yes, draw attention to himself.

Is he drawing attention to himself to boost his message, or is he boosting his message to draw attention to himself? I don't know, and if he is in fact committed to his message, there may not be much difference. Either way, this young man is proving to be surprisingly resilient and skilled in using the media to his advantage.

Media exposure like this tends to bring out the flaws of the subject in question. If this guy is as unfit as you say he is, it's only a matter of time before he does something stupid, such that it neutralizes the flying carpet he is riding high now. It is also common for the media to turn on someone after a time. He is their darling now. When his ratings drop and he becomes less interesting, the media could put him back in the rating-getting news by highlighting his dark side instead of his bright side.
 
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Media exposure like this tends to bring out the flaws of the subject in question. If this guy is as unfit as you say he is, it's only a matter of time before he does something stupid, such that it neutralizes the flying carpet he is riding high now. It is also common for the media to turn on someone after a time. He is their darling now. When his ratings drop and he becomes less interesting, the media could put him back in the rating-getting news by highlighting his dark side instead of his bright side.
Considering past history, it's highly doubtful the media will address the dark side or the flaws of any other black, Democrat lawmaker so long as they stick to the proper narrative and toe the party line. In Jones case, he's carrying water for gun control - one of their favorite liberal causes. It also helps when the handlers in the White House invite the three TN protesters to DC for a Biden photo op, thus keeping them in the news and promoting the Democrat Party's national campaign for gun control.

Noticeably absent from the Biden guest list are the families of the Covenant School victims or the heroic policemen who did a remarkable job in stopping the lunatic shooter from taking countless more lives of small children that day. When asked about a possible invitation for them, Biden's press secretary bluntly replied that there was nothing to report on that. Apparently, there's no political value in that exercise.
 
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Considering past history, it's highly doubtful the media will address the dark side or the flaws of any other black, Democrat lawmaker so long as they stick to the proper narrative and toe the party line. In Jones case, he's carrying water for gun control - one of their favorite liberal causes. It also helps when the handlers in the White House invite the three TN protesters to DC for a Biden photo op, thus keeping them in the news and promoting the Democrat Party's national campaign for gun control.

Noticeably absent from the Biden guest list are the families of the Covenant School victims or the heroic policemen who did a remarkable job in stopping the lunatic shooter from taking countless more lives of small children that day. When asked about a possible invitation for them, Biden's press secretary bluntly replied that there was nothing to report on that. Apparently, there's no political value in that exercise.
Trump should visit the shooting victims families.....he needs to be polar to Biden like he did with east Palestine, ohio
 
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muttly

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Considering past history, it's highly doubtful the media will address the dark side or the flaws of any other black, Democrat lawmaker so long as they stick to the proper narrative and toe the party line. In Jones case, he's carrying water for gun control - one of their favorite liberal causes. It also helps when the handlers in the White House invite the three TN protesters to DC for a Biden photo op, thus keeping them in the news and promoting the Democrat Party's national campaign for gun control.

Noticeably absent from the Biden guest list are the families of the Covenant School victims or the heroic policemen who did a remarkable job in stopping the lunatic shooter from taking countless more lives of small children that day. When asked about a possible invitation for them, Biden's press secretary bluntly replied that there was nothing to report on that. Apparently, there's no political value in that exercise.
It’s all about political posturing. If they invite the Covenant School victims families, they’ll have to mention( and garner media attention)the perpetrator of the shooting , who happened to be a manifesto writing, mentally-ill trans person who targeted christians. They don’t want to talk about that. Instead they’ll invite the teen from KC who showed up at the wrong house and unfortunately was wounded by a homeowner with a pistol, protecting himself and mistakenly perceiving a home invader.
The homeowner had just a 32 caliber handgun that was used for protection. What else could Biden possibly be politically exploiting? Pretty obvious.
 
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Pilgrim

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It’s all about political posturing. If they invite the Covenant School victims families, they’ll have to mention( and garner media attention)the perpetrator of the shooting , who happened to be a manifesto writing, mentally-ill trans person who targeted christians. They don’t want to talk about that. Instead they’ll invite the teen from KC who showed up at the wrong house and unfortunately was wounded by a homeowner with a pistol, protecting himself and mistakenly perceiving a home invader.
The homeowner had just a 32 caliber handgun for protection in his home. What else could Biden possibly be politically exploiting? Pretty obvious.
The guy who shot the kid in KC is in BIG trouble. He might have had a case for self defense if the kid had attempted to force his way into the house, but instead he tried to back away and never entered the home. In this case the shooter had no basis for using deadly force, and the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws don't apply. Let me say at this point that this is my somewhat educated opinion as a firearms instructor, and these laws vary according to state statutes. However, one thing that's always a legal issue in the use of deadly force for self protection is being able to prove that you had a convincing reason to believe that you were in fear for your life or serious bodily harm. The fact that the homeowner was 84 years old might be a factor if he was senile and had no business possessing a gun, but that gets into an entirely different topic to be discussed in another thread.

 
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muttly

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The guy who shot the kid in KC is in BIG trouble. He might have had a case for self defense if the kid had attempted to force his way into the house, but instead he tried to back away and never entered the home. In this case the shooter had no basis for using deadly force, and the castle doctrine or stand-your-ground laws don't apply. Let me say at this point that this is my somewhat educated opinion as a firearms instructor, and these laws vary according to state statutes. However, one thing that's always a legal issue in the use of deadly force for self protection is being able to prove that you had a convincing reason to believe that you were in fear for your life or serious bodily harm. The fact that the homeowner was 84 years old might be a factor if he was senile and had no business possessing a gun, but that gets into an entirely different topic to be discussed in another thread.

He claimed the teen was “pulling on the storm door”.
Feared harm due to his frailty and the teen’s apparent 6’ size. Stand your grown law in Missouri.
But, yes in another thread.
 

danthewolf00

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The fact that we don't know what had been going on with that 85 year old man BEFORE the kid showed up at his front door......not saying it was ok to shoot but what if someone had been messing with the old guy.
 
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The fact that we don't know what had been going on with that 85 year old man BEFORE the kid showed up at his front door......not saying it was ok to shoot but what if someone had been messing with the old guy.
It could be that the old guy had been having some bad experiences with teens in the recent past, but we don't know - the reports don't say. But at his age he probably won't do any prison time. The big problem for him will be dealing with the stress of the ordeal. One last thought: senior citizens in general are afraid for their personal safety because they're soft targets for criminals. They make up a significant percentage of first time gun buyers.
 
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The fact that we don't know what had been going on with that 85 year old man BEFORE the kid showed up at his front door......not saying it was ok to shoot but what if someone had been messing with the old guy.
He said he was lying down resting, which seems plausible because it was almost 10pm and he’s 84 years old.
 
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ATeam

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The Tennessee Three had their White House meeting yesterday. People barely noticed because the Tucker Carlson out of Fox News story got most of the news and talk-show coverage.
 

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The Voters Have Spoken; Two Expelled Tennessee Legislators Reelected

These were landslide election victories. Pearson won with 93.4% of the vote. Jones won with 80.3%.

 
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The Voters Have Spoken; Two Expelled Tennessee Legislators Reelected

These were landslide election victories. Pearson won with 93.4% of the vote. Jones won with 80.3%.

Proves stupid will reelect stupid.....case in point Chicago.
 
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Proves stupid will reelect stupid.....case in point Chicago.
For those who are familiar with these two districts, this should come as no surprise. Just to add icing on the cake, Gloria Johnson has announced she's going to run for the Senate in '24, challenging Marsha Blackburn. Good luck with that.
 
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