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Dispatcher03

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I am new here, but not new to Expedite. I have been in Expedite for some several years now. I am a Loadplanner, Dispatcher at nightshift for a certain company I will not name but I will tell you our name is not mentioned in this forum. If you have any questions for me about pay, loads, etc. I can help you anonymously and tell you the secrets and ins and outs of the business. I was also a driver for 8 years.
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Why do you want to tell everyone info? Did your company upset you?
 

WestSide

Seasoned Expediter
Do tell!

If this forum teaches us anything, it's that we don't already know nearly as much as we think we know. :rolleyes:
 

Dispatcher03

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Why do you want to tell everyone info? Did your company upset you?

No they didnt upset me. I actually love my company we are very much like a family :D. Its just more professional this way. But we are a tier 1 carrier. Not a small company. We have about 25 trucks on 1099's and about 10 vehciles on w-2's.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
What info can you offer?

I mean it is great to hear from the other side of the fence but every company is different and most don't let the contractor in.

35 trucks is a small company, tier I means little to most of us here.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
What info can you offer?

I mean it is great to hear from the other side of the fence but every company is different and most don't let the contractor in.

35 trucks is a small company, tier I means little to most of us here.


Be nice Greg..;).it is good to actually have a dispatcher that will share the truth...as we also have a CEO....
 

Dispatcher03

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Tier 1 meaning on the load boards. Tier 1 on the load boards (Specifically NLMI) means we and only a few select other carriers see the load waaay before a ton of other carriers do. Its based on ON-time reports, Safety scores, trucks, etc.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I can help you anonymously and tell you the secrets and ins and outs of the business.
Unless your real name is Dispatcher03, you have the anonymous part covered. You aren't very forthcoming with the secrets and ins and outs though. Would a credit card number loosen your fingers? PayPal? Cash?
 

jujubeans

OVM Project Manager
Unless your real name is Dispatcher03, you have the anonymous part covered. You aren't very forthcoming with the secrets and ins and outs though. Would a credit card number loosen your fingers? PayPal? Cash?


ah ha! Moot is bribing the dispatchers!
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I was not bribing dispatchers. I willing to pay for any secrets that will give me an advantage in this cut throat business. When the tailgate drops, money talks out the garbage bowel. Nuff said.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
I was not bribing dispatchers. I willing to pay for any secrets that will give me an advantage in this cut throat business. When the tailgate drops, money talks out the garbage bowel. Nuff said.

Psssst..Mootster...drive less , make more.....
 

WestSide

Seasoned Expediter
Dispatch, it's no secret this board is a tough crowd. Keep those tips coming, we newbies are listening!
 

Vinnie T

Seasoned Expediter
50 trucks...that's enough to keep you really busy in the dispatch office!

All carriers are different, what his carrier does more then likely will not apply to the Cats, Feds and E1's of the world.

NLM...Are the rates decent or still dogpoo?
 

bulldogmbm

Seasoned Expediter
i think they work for panther cuz thats all i hear when i call them is yea ill tell u all u want to know then when i ask the question "OH i cant see that part of the computor system" agsin im told nothing lol ive stopped asking questions just hang on and figure it out as u go along
 

Dispatcher03

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1. I do NOT work for god aweful Panther. I like Panther like I like getting into car accidents. For you Panther drivers, you need to realize that your company has its own load board... for other carriers to bid on. Guess what! We get the load for twice as much as they are paying you. Their dispatch is rude, abnoxious, and do not know what they are doing.
2. Yes, companies differ from each other. But the only differences are the following:
a) Pay to the driver
b) Areas covered/not covered
c) Size/Annual growth
d) Whether they broker loads to other carriers or not
That is the main differences. You guys are wanting some insider information on the biz. Well, right off hand here is a small piece of information for you. Dont take it the wrong way. Use it for knowledge. ALL dispatch has their phone calls recorded. They have to have it recorded in order to go back through conversations for reference with customers and whatnot. But can also be used to catch a driver lying. For instance. Fred (Driver) says he was in Knoxville, Tn. @ 21:46 p.m. est. Now, 1 hour later, he says he is in Roanoke, Va. Uh, driver your lying I dont care what you drive but you cannot move that fast. This is a vague example especially since my company doesnt run into this problem with our driver because we are on satellite. But I think you get the point. YOU cannot possibly lie to a dispatcher about anything on your load. If you are in traffic, we can find out. If you took too long to load, we can find out. We know where you are, when you got there, and if you are on satellite GPS phones, we know which parking space you are in. We zoom in on google maps your location, and we can tell you what gas pump you are at and when you pulled up to it. So, dont try to lie to the dispatch. They may not react to it, but they remember it. I have 1 driver that lies to us daily. He doesnt know we can zoom in on his location. He always says he gets in traffic coming through certain parts of Nevada and Cali. Then we zoom in and he is at a casino. WTF? There is a small one for ya. Ask me more I dont know what to tell you guys just yet. So ask away.
 

greg334

Veteran Expediter
Dispatch, sorry to beat up on your post but I'm bored tonight and ... well bored ... and ... find this a bit amusing.

1. I do NOT work for god aweful Panther. I like Panther like I like getting into car accidents. For you Panther drivers, you need to realize that your company has its own load board... for other carriers to bid on. Guess what! We get the load for twice as much as they are paying you. Their dispatch is rude, abnoxious, and do not know what they are doing.

I think it is a matter of opinion.

I talked to panther a few times and I never got the impression that they were rude or didn't know what they were doing. Panther, like my company has their own load board (which is NLM by the way), but it doesn't matter because what does is the fact that Panther does derive some of its work through that thing they call sales.

2. Yes, companies differ from each other. But the only differences are the following:
a) Pay to the driver
b) Areas covered/not covered
c) Size/Annual growth
d) Whether they broker loads to other carriers or not
That is the main differences.

NOT really.

There is a lot more to it than that.

For example the owner's (or CEO, COO) attitude is reflected by the management of the company.

THAT alone has a lot to do with it.

Mainly the pay is pretty much the same, not much difference there believe it or not - it is either flat rate or percentage.

The coverage can be a bit of a difference but when you are talking about the major players, it really doesn't matter and size doesn't really matter either because a lot of smaller companies actually have the latitude to leverage their customer base/load access by being more flexible. Whether they broker loads or not, well ... that goes back to my first point - it is a reflection of the management of the company.

You guys are wanting some insider information on the biz. Well, right off hand here is a small piece of information for you. Dont take it the wrong way. Use it for knowledge. ALL dispatch has their phone calls recorded.

Well..... sort of important when there is a dispute but outside of that, not really important.

They have to have it recorded in order to go back through conversations for reference with customers and whatnot.

Actually hate to break this to you but they don't have to, almost all the companies outside of the majors don't record their phone conversations - shhhh they can't afford to. BUT there is another thing about this I will touch on in a moment, really important one.

But can also be used to catch a driver lying. For instance. Fred (Driver) says he was in Knoxville, Tn. @ 21:46 p.m. est. Now, 1 hour later, he says he is in Roanoke, Va. Uh, driver your lying I dont care what you drive but you cannot move that fast.

Actually this doesn't matter either, simply because if he lied, it isn't a big deal about location. It is a contractor/company thing and gets down to a point that this can be considered Forced Dispatch if you are hounding the driver.

This is a vague example especially since my company doesnt run into this problem with our driver because we are on satellite.

AND??

But I think you get the point.

No not really....
YOU cannot possibly lie to a dispatcher about anything on your load. If you are in traffic, we can find out. If you took too long to load, we can find out. We know where you are, when you got there, and if you are on satellite GPS phones, we know which parking space you are in. We zoom in on google maps your location, and we can tell you what gas pump you are at and when you pulled up to it. So, dont try to lie to the dispatch.

Well there is a real funny problem with a lot of what you are saying, this is another example of a contractor becoming an employee. You need to have a serious talk with your manager on how you are allowed to treat a contractor.

They may not react to it, but they remember it. I have 1 driver that lies to us daily. He doesnt know we can zoom in on his location. He always says he gets in traffic coming through certain parts of Nevada and Cali. Then we zoom in and he is at a casino. WTF? There is a small one for ya. Ask me more I dont know what to tell you guys just yet. So ask away.

Well ... so?

It is not your business where he is if it is his vehicle. If he says he is getting laid at the truck stop but is at the casino winning millions, it really doesn't matter unless you have to have him pick up a load for say $4 a mile and the world is going to stop without that load being picked up.

SO here is what I told you I will tell you. Be careful about recording people. In some states it is illegal to record a conversion without a full disclosure before the recording is made. If I was a customer of yours and had an issue with something you did, it can be used against you if I want to yank your chain really hard. I think it is a felony (it is in Michigan where I'm at) and being the guy/gal at the end of the phone where the the recording is taking place, it means you are committing a crime, even if I'm is in another state. Doesn't matter what you tell the drivers, I understand it has to be told every time they call in.

By the way, I am still trying to figure out the tier one thing. I understand what you said but the NLM guys said there are like a gizzion carriers that are tier one and they even have unqualifieds taking the overflow at times.
 

Dispatcher03

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You seem lost, so let me break it down to you.

Dispatch: Driver do you want to take this CRITICAL LOAD?

Driver: Yeah

Dispatch: Its criticical, its line shutdown material and needs to run direct

Driver: Yeah no problem. Whats the pay?

Dispatch: A gazillion dollars/mi.

Driver: Eh, I guess that works.

Dispatch: It better work!

Driver: Where does it pickup?

Dispatch: In Moscow in 1 hour.

Driver: Oh Im 30 minutes away I will head there now.

Meanwhile, Customer calls 1 hour later.

Customer: Where is your Driver?

Dispatch: Hold on kind sir, lemme see....(pings drivers location),
Can you hold Mr. Customer?

Customer: NO!

Dispatch:Thanks I will be with you in a minute.

**Driver is pinging at Casino**

Dispatch:Driver where are you?

Driver: Im fueling up

Dispatch: Your pinging at a casino right now

Driver: OH, uh, oh, uh, uhm, Yeah I was just heading out the door.

Dispatch back to customer: Yeah hes in your parking lot, he is doing his pretrip theres a couple of trucks ahead of him at the dock.

Customer: Oh okay. I will call you back in 5 minutes.


And then dispatch goes to smoke. Understand?
 
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Turtle

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Retired Expediter
For you Panther drivers, you need to realize that your company has its own load board... for other carriers to bid on.
Not exactly news.

Guess what! We get the load for twice as much as they are paying you.
Guess what! Some of us drivers have access to those load boards and can see what those loads go for, and we know for an absolute fact that those loads do not go for twice what they pay us, except for rare circumstances where the load must be brokered out at a loss because a Panther truck is not able to take the load.

Their dispatch is rude, abnoxious, and do not know what they are doing.
Some are rude and obnoxious, some aren't. Most aren't, unless you are rude and obnoxious to them first. Some don't know what they are doing, but most do.

ALL dispatch has their phone calls recorded.
False. Most carriers do not, in fact, have their dispatch calls recorded. Generally, those who are ISO 9001:2008 certified will be recording calls, but a few of those do not yet record calls. Recording all calls for easy retrieval is an expensive endeavor.

YOU cannot possibly lie to a dispatcher about anything on your load.
Of course you can. You can lie about anything you want to. Doesn't mean you won't get caught, but you can certainly lie about it.

If you are in traffic, we can find out. If you took too long to load, we can find out. We know where you are, when you got there,
One call to the state police for traffic, another call to the shipper to confirm load times, and the Qualcomm for everything else, duh.

...and if you are on satellite GPS phones, we know which parking space you are in.
Absolutely not true. Even cell tower assisted GPS only has an effective accuracy of 5-30 meters, which is nowhere near accurate enough to pinpoint an individual parking space. The most accurate cell phones have an average high end accuracy of 19.7 feet.

We zoom in on google maps your location, and we can tell you what gas pump you are at and when you pulled up to it.
Not only is that not true, it's a bona fide, stone-cold, load of crap. Google maps and the satellite images are not live. Many images are years old. But even if they were live, the overhead canopy would prevent the identification of an individual truck.

So, dont try to lie to the dispatch. They may not react to it, but they remember it. I have 1 driver that lies to us daily. He doesnt know we can zoom in on his location. He always says he gets in traffic coming through certain parts of Nevada and Cali. Then we zoom in and he is at a casino. WTF? There is a small one for ya. Ask me more I dont know what to tell you guys just yet. So ask away.
WTF is right.
 
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Crazynuff

Veteran Expediter
You can fool some of the people some of the time but you can't fool Turtle . Seems like Dispatcher03 can be fooled if he really believes all that nonsense about GPS locating abilities , live Google maps , all calls being recorded , etc .
Certainly he must believe all that . Otherwise he would be (gasp) trying to lie to us .
 
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