Goodbye "Don't ask. Don't tell."

[MrGautama]

You are just amusing and childish only resorting to schoolyard tactics, just like the rest as soon as you are against the wall start screaming fraud!. Can't you come up with something more original?. Something that would at least be challenging?.

The issues are open as usual but your attitude of cornered cat after being confronted with the naked true can only have two outcomes; the one we see now of complete denial, or an introspective analysis of your motives to try to relegate a group of fellow citizens to a secondary status for not fault of their own.

An issue is also the way the system has guided your opinion to suit the elite interests and not your own; maybe that is the main issue here more than the reason for your disapproval of the existence of the gay community.

 

[Turtle]

TCP/IP packets don't lie. Do you really want to risk your insurance business over this?

 

[MrGautama]

TCP/IP packets don't lie. Do you really want to risk your insurance business over this?

I'd love too so shoot, put your money where your mouth is!!

 

[MrGautama]

Well... Still Waiting...

 

[MrGautama]

This is pointless, I'm going to bed. Let's see if tomorrow we have any news...

 

[Turtle]

What's the matter there big boy? Got your panties all in a wad?

Clearly you don't understand how to properly spoof routings and MAC addresses. I'd shoot, but I'm not too sure of my AIM. Do you really want to take this any further, to take it personal? My suggestion to you is to go and create yet another screen name and then simply behave. But you won't do that, you've got too much time invested in Mr Bat Guano, and you want to hang on to that one as long as you can, so, you'll continue to make it about me, in order to deflect the fact that you are one serious wacko, and I don't mean that in a good way.

 

[copdsux]

I mentioned earlier that had shook the hand of a "gay" and, thus far, had avoided contracting "the gay". Well, now I,m REALLY in trouble: yesterday I shook the hand of a guy who is HIV positive! So, I don't know which will get me first, Emphysema or Aids. I mean look at Magic Johnson, he's all skin and bones, right? I'll keep you posted as to how this "ick" factor continues to invade my life.

Mike

 

[LDB]

Enough of the direct personal insults/attacks/threats/accusations etc. Take it to private messages or drop it altogether. First/last/only cautioning.

 

[MrGautama]

What's the matter there big boy? Got your panties all in a wad?

Clearly you don't understand how to properly spoof routings and MAC addresses. I'd shoot, but I'm not too sure of my AIM. Do you really want to take this any further, to take it personal? My suggestion to you is to go and create yet another screen name and then simply behave. But you won't do that, you've got too much time invested in Mr Bat Guano, and you want to hang on to that one as long as you can, so, you'll continue to make it about me, in order to deflect the fact that you are one serious wacko, and I don't mean that in a good way.

So you wait for me to leave to make your big macho comeback, you are going to give me a hernia if you keep me laughing like that!!

As I said before I'm fair game... Turtle... James Turtle 007. Who do you think you are talking to here, a kid?. You are a bully and fall back to insane behavior when your narrow agenda is exposed to the light for what it is. If you had the faintest hope you could intimidate me in any way with your delusions of grandeur, well think again. I'll be waiting just as Letzrock for you to establish a connection between us.

Now, should I get a new screen name and behave?, meaning conform and shut up?; I can read between the lines of your statement... you are not only for the discrimination against gays but also for the suppression of free speech... so what's next, burning books and mandatory Star of David for the Jews?.

Finally, I am the wacko?, last time I checked you were the one threatening me for expressing my opinion. As a measure of respect for the team that runs EO and the moderators you should think twice before engaging in that type of behavior.

 

[MrGautama]

Enough of the direct personal insults/attacks/threats/accusations etc. Take it to private messages or drop it altogether. First/last/only cautioning.

Ups, sorry Leo didn't see your post. I'm done.

 

[Turtle]

TCP/IP packets don't lie. Do you really want to risk your insurance business over this?

I'd love too so shoot, put your money where your mouth is!!

I don't really have to, now do I? By answering this question directly, you've admitted that you have an insurance business, just like Letzrock. Apparently someone got a little frustrated and forgot which computer they were using.

When people create multiple screen names in order to pile on, or to create the illusion of a common belief as vindication, they always screw up. There's a turn of a phrase here, a unique wording or spelling there, a particular way of responding, many things will give you away. The most blatant example here is two seemingly disconnected people with nothing in common responding in like fashion to the same issues, that of the insurance business (not to mention that some of letzrock's previously banned screen names have had personal issues with me using the same exact wording over the same issues as MrG has done here in this thread and in others), as well as to the accusation of IP address matching, which is an accusation that I never made, actually, and both jumped all over it, hard. It's a clear example of creating multiple screen names for the purpose of piling on. It would be different if screen names such as NextOut, chillicat and others didn't comprise a rich history of deception, but that's the reality.

It's the wholesale deception of an entire community, a deception that destroys trust, something that is quite important in an insurance agent, to be sure. I know that, for example, if my insurance agent were an online psychopath, I'm not too sure I would trust my insurance needs to him.

In any case, if you, or whatever screen names you choose to use, want to continue the childish crusade against me, using unfounded and in some cases purely fabricated accusations (like that I threatened you for voicing your opinion) and all things that are turtle evil, that's fine. I don't care. I do hope the delusional victories are worth it.

 

[iceroadtrucker]

Turtle,
Behave your self its not worth getting kicked off here by the said Computer Rambo's because of a Knuckle Head.

Best matters settled in a Parking lot like a man.
That way its either put up or shut up.

And if many cases just like the CB Rambo's, soon as ya step outta the truck they shut their mouths.

Take care

No tortoise left behind.
The only easy day was yesterday

 

[DougTravels]

Turtle,
Behave your self its not worth getting kicked off here by the said Computer Rambo's because of a Knuckle Head.

Best matters settled in a Parking lot like a man.
That way its either put up or shut up.

And if many cases just like the CB Rambo's, soon as ya step outta the truck they shut their mouths.

Take care

No tortoise left behind.
The only easy day was yesterday

I don't think you will get this ,but settling things in a parking lot is more like settling it like a 3rd grader

 

[greg334]

Thank you Doug.

 

[cheri1122]

IRT: you can relax, the tortoise is way too smart to get "kicked off here" - unless that's what he wants to happen. And he can demolish his opponent without even getting out of the truck, as it seems he just did [on the identity issue, at least]. Like Doug said, we don't settle things on the playground once we're all grown up, ok?
Turtle: I concede you're way beyond most of us at detecting aliases [and how annoyed you must have been when I thought Mr G was you, eh?] but I still disagree on the issue originally discussed. Someday, the gays will have the same rights to be equal as the rest of us, and I think that's a good thing for society.
Mr G: I am still quite amused - thank you for that.

 

[Turtle]

You give me far too much credit on alias detection. Most others pick up on it far quicker than I do. As I've said before, I pay more attention to what was posted than to who posted it. But when someone else points it out, it doesn't take all that much research to figure out what's going on. Multiple user names is just a fact of the net, and despite it being against the rules here, people will continue doing it, even after they're caught. So having multiple names in and of itself doesn't bother me a bit. I simply don't care. But when someone posts an argument, takes a position or a stance that can't stand on its own, and they have to create additional screen names to validate their position, to create the illusion that it's a more commonly held belief than it is, and use it to pile on, then it becomes a problem, and that's what happens here more often than not. It's a little sad that someone has so little self-esteem and so little confidence in their position, or that they are so desperate to be validated, that they have to stoop so low as to create phantom friends.

As to the question of someday gays having the same rights as the rest of us, I've never said any differently. Gays absolutely should not be discriminated against. The only thing I have a problem with is the tactics of the Gay Agenda to force people to accept them whether they want to or not, and the redefining of certain terms in order to fulfill their wants, needs and goals. I don't like being told what and how to think by anyone, be it a homosexual campaign of manipulation, or a religious indoctrination of because I said so. While homosexuality may very well be tolerated by many, human nature dictates it will never be embraced by society at large as being perfectly normal, and it's that right there that makes 'em mad, 'cause they know it's true. And instead of dealing with it, some just whine a lot, some go on the attack, and others just throw temper tantrums. Some do all three. I personally don't care if you're gay or straight. Couldn't care less. But I won't embrace it, either. Sorry.

 

[greg334]

Someday, the gays will have the same rights to be equal as the rest of us, and I think that's a good thing for society.

But Cheri, they do have the same rights as all of us. It comes down to this; the same problems they face with as same sex couples is happening with brother/sister or friend/friend situations. The control of other people's property and decision making for the other person and let's not forget to mention benefit packages that exclude others that are not spouses or children are all the same issue with everyone, not a Gay issue. To grant them marriage to correct the problem is one solution but it is not the only solution and it is not the same as a marriage in the traditional sense and never could be.

The problem is regardless what you may say, I agree to a point there are some who can not help being who they are but a lot who can and use this for other reasons outside of being themselves. It is not just a genetic thing, it is not just a behavioral thing but it is also a peer thing or one of those things that causes one to be different to stand out in a crowd.

 

[cheri1122]

Here's a right they don't have: to go about their life and work without being reviled for something they had no choice in being.
When I was in school, the worst insult one could hurl at another was "retard" - today, it's "gay".
"All men are created equal" is pretty clear, in my book, but we just can't seem to accomplish it yet - somebody has to be inferior, or we're not happy.

 

[letzrockexpress]

I don't really have to, now do I? By answering this question directly, you've admitted that you have an insurance business, just like Letzrock. Apparently someone got a little frustrated and forgot which computer they were using.

When people create multiple screen names in order to pile on, or to create the illusion of a common belief as vindication, they always screw up. There's a turn of a phrase here, a unique wording or spelling there, a particular way of responding, many things will give you away. The most blatant example here is two seemingly disconnected people with nothing in common responding in like fashion to the same issues, that of the insurance business (not to mention that some of letzrock's previously banned screen names have had personal issues with me using the same exact wording over the same issues as MrG has done here in this thread and in others), as well as to the accusation of IP address matching, which is an accusation that I never made, actually, and both jumped all over it, hard. It's a clear example of creating multiple screen names for the purpose of piling on. It would be different if screen names such as NextOut, chillicat and others didn't comprise a rich history of deception, but that's the reality.

It's the wholesale deception of an entire community, a deception that destroys trust, something that is quite important in an insurance agent, to be sure. I know that, for example, if my insurance agent were an online psychopath, I'm not too sure I would trust my insurance needs to him.

In any case, if you, or whatever screen names you choose to use, want to continue the childish crusade against me, using unfounded and in some cases purely fabricated accusations (like that I threatened you for voicing your opinion) and all things that are turtle evil, that's fine. I don't care. I do hope the delusional victories are worth it.

At the risk of ruffling Leo's feathers, I must defend myself. I am not Mr. Gautama. I can only wish I had the oratory and writing skills of this individual. I should take it as a compliment. I have not launched any "childish crusade" against Turtle. I have one other username here which turtle is well aware of that I have used only a time or two, that being NextOut. I have nothing to hide. I once thought that the similarites between Mr. Gautama and Turtle were uncanny. He apparently had a real problem with that. I asked him in an earlier post to state the "facts" he has that would prove I am Mr. gautama. He has chosen not to. Where are they?? I find it ironic that this individual chooses the moniker Turtle, but has skin thinner than a mouse embryo. If I am banned now, so be it.

 

[aristotle]

Turtle takes a kinder, gentler approach to the gay agenda than I do. From what I can surmise, his concern is with their tactics. Although the tactics employed by the homosexual community are often hideous, their aims and objectives are the true menace to a civilized people. Abnormal behaviors cannot be normalized. Sexual deviancy, by definition, is a deviation from the norm. There are many much more urgent social ills to warrant out attention. The small, but screaming phalanx on the left that embraces the radical gay agenda are an annoyance, but little else. That is, so long as they are held in check by the vast majority who find their peculiar proclivities, well... peculiar.