DougTravels
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You said, it would lesson marriage, I figured you meant all, not everyone but yours.
Today is my 23rd anniversary, It is a strong marriage. My marriage will not be lessoned by any gay people chosing to marry.
Goodbye "Don't ask. Don't tell."
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Today is my 23rd anniversary, It is a strong marriage. My marriage will not be lessoned by any gay people chosing to marry.
Moot said
axe me no questions..mon...
Now you are making fun of the Jamaican blacks...you racist....
axe me no questions..mon...
Happy anniversary to you and your bride. It speaks well of you.
I won't be baited into going negative or personal. Try a different approach. What I state on this subject is simply my opinion. If time proves I am on the wrong side of the issue, societal change will inevitably occur.
The colletive wisdom of the ages embraces marriage as an union between a man and a woman. Any relationship other than that is something other than marriage.
I imagine the reason gays want to marry is because it's denied them. The civil union is the same as the 'separate but equal' treatment of black people: separate, yes, but equal? No.
Prohibiting gay marriage on religious grounds is unfair - freedom of religion requires freedom from religion as well. Your religion is not my religion, and vice versa.
The military is a problem I have no answer for - it's simply a whole different world, one where the rules of civilization don't apply. I can understand the feeling of discomfort at showering with gays, as I feel the same discomfort whenever I have to walk past a group of men loitering outside the truckstop door: is one of them going to say or do something unwelcome? [It hasn't happened yet, but I know the feeling and I don't like it either.]
But here's the thing: how it makes me feel is my problem, and up to me to deal with, because the men standing there watching me aren't doing anything wrong. Except in my head.
Gay folks aren't doing anything wrong either, except in some peoples' heads.
Prohibiting gay marriage on religious grounds is unfair - freedom of religion requires freedom from religion as well. Your religion is not my religion, and vice versa.
The military is a problem I have no answer for - it's simply a whole different world, one where the rules of civilization don't apply. I can understand the feeling of discomfort at showering with gays, as I feel the same discomfort whenever I have to walk past a group of men loitering outside the truckstop door: is one of them going to say or do something unwelcome? [It hasn't happened yet, but I know the feeling and I don't like it either.]
But here's the thing: how it makes me feel is my problem, and up to me to deal with, because the men standing there watching me aren't doing anything wrong. Except in my head.
Gay folks aren't doing anything wrong either, except in some peoples' heads.
DougTravels
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Thanks Cheri, and well said in the previous post. For some it is not enough for them to honor their religion, they must push their ideas on everyone else.Happy anniversary to Doug & Mrs Travels!
If the Left could articulate a cogent and logical argument for radically changing the concept of marriage, their ideas would carry the day. Excuses such as "we are denied it" or "just because" or "we feel entitled" are laughable.
The universally accepted concept of marriage has served humankind pretty well as the fundamental building block of civilization. Ya got to make a POWERFUL argument to change fundamental human structures.
Because no persuasive argument exists for such a radical change, it is very unlikely to occur.
The universally accepted concept of marriage has served humankind pretty well as the fundamental building block of civilization. Ya got to make a POWERFUL argument to change fundamental human structures.
Because no persuasive argument exists for such a radical change, it is very unlikely to occur.
Ohhhhh, you mean like the "religion" of gay lifestyle/marriage. Now you're position is becoming clear.
tallcal101
Veteran Expediter
Make you a deal Leo,you never mention the great state of California again in your all to familier ways and I'll lay of Pearl Town. I spend a lot of time in Austin and it is not a whole lot different then San Francisco.I don't regularly take aim at Texas because I have many friends there and none of them sound anything like you or share a hint of your red neck beliefs.So I figure it's kind of a local thing in Pearl Town.Perhaps it's a place just a tad out of touch.Or maybe it's just you and your church members are Christian enough forgive your ideas.Who knows.
I just did a favor for a friend of mine who happens to be a major country and western artist and moved his personal manager along with his partner from Dallas to Austin. I did not move a queer and and his
got lover. Got it buddy.You represent the good people of Pearl Town by choice and you don't represent another soul in Texas.Your views recently are equally intolorent to me as mine to you.Frankly, I wish the Leo who was not so disturbed by events in Washinton that are so veiled in hypocrcy and claims of tolorance would post more on this forum.I mean it Leo,you have crossed several lines of late and I'm simply putting it back on you.I will not dredge up all your references to California as there are simply too many to count.I have not personaly insulted your person,nor will I.I also say many things is jest to keep things light.Your opinions,like it or not,represents your village. Keep that in mind.
My racist brother (God rest his soul) thought by bailing out of CA and moving to Wyoming he could get away with is intolorant philosiphy as there are few minorities there. He was wrong. There are God fareing paople there ,Christians,who showed him the same road back to California he came in on.It took the good people of Douglass WY to show him the way out of his self imposed imprisonment of racism and intolorance.
So no more about your home town Leo,lay off California and we have a deal.I will take your words on their face about my comments and consider toning it down.
I hope you will recognize you are coming dangerously close to being viewed by some on this forum as angry beyond the boundries of common sense and realistic argument points.Please consider my comments.
I just did a favor for a friend of mine who happens to be a major country and western artist and moved his personal manager along with his partner from Dallas to Austin. I did not move a queer and and his
got lover. Got it buddy.You represent the good people of Pearl Town by choice and you don't represent another soul in Texas.Your views recently are equally intolorent to me as mine to you.Frankly, I wish the Leo who was not so disturbed by events in Washinton that are so veiled in hypocrcy and claims of tolorance would post more on this forum.I mean it Leo,you have crossed several lines of late and I'm simply putting it back on you.I will not dredge up all your references to California as there are simply too many to count.I have not personaly insulted your person,nor will I.I also say many things is jest to keep things light.Your opinions,like it or not,represents your village. Keep that in mind.My racist brother (God rest his soul) thought by bailing out of CA and moving to Wyoming he could get away with is intolorant philosiphy as there are few minorities there. He was wrong. There are God fareing paople there ,Christians,who showed him the same road back to California he came in on.It took the good people of Douglass WY to show him the way out of his self imposed imprisonment of racism and intolorance.
So no more about your home town Leo,lay off California and we have a deal.I will take your words on their face about my comments and consider toning it down.
I hope you will recognize you are coming dangerously close to being viewed by some on this forum as angry beyond the boundries of common sense and realistic argument points.Please consider my comments.
The 'left'? There aren't any gay Republicans, you think?
ROFLMAO
"Now you are making fun of the Jamaican blacks...you racist...."
************** There it is! In one little sentence I met Mr. Guano's definition of a racist homophobic. After all they are one in the same. I also managed to get an E.O. warning or banishment for using the Fenheimer. Cool!
"************** There it is! In one little sentence I met Mr. Guano's definition of a racist homophobic. After all they are one in the same. I also managed to get an E.O. warning or banishment for using the Fenheimer. Cool!
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"Now you are making fun of the Jamaican blacks...you racist....
************* There it is! In one little sentence I met Mr. Guano's definition of a racist homophobic. After all they are one in the same. I also managed to get an E.O. warning or banishment for using the Fenheimer. Cool!
I 'd tell ya to jump in a lake but with 10,000 to chose from you might develop multi-personality syndrome...or is that syndromes???
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DougTravels
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Thanks Moot!
Leo: My're position is very simple to most. Their agenda is to have equal rights period. If their marrying does not affect others rights (and it in no way shape or form does)then they should be allowed to do so. There was a time when black and whites couldn't marry each other. You might call them the "good ole days".
You seem to cry for less government interference, but on this topic you want more. It is also funny how just a few posts back you threatened to shut this thread down and stop the personal posts, then make a personal post about me.
So on here like in real life you want 2 sets of rules.
If 2 people regardless of their sexual orientation want to marry and spend their lives together let them.
Legalization of Gay marriage won't hurt you folks: If you think it will there is a little green man in your head. (See entire quote below)