Breaking News: The Romney campaign announces Paul Ryan will be the VP running mate.

OntarioVanMan

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Only because people allow it. Weakness of spirit is a fatal disease.

not necessarily....the people want the country to go in a different direction then the Government wants....will this country eventually implode?....Yes IMO.....
 

layoutshooter

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Then so be it....that is what it is all about....like Burger King.....you can have it your way...LOL

The big difference between this government and one I would prefer, is this one does everything by force, both of law and physical, where as what I would do is get government OUT of peoples lives and use leadership to accomplish what needs done.
 

layoutshooter

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not necessarily....the people want the country to go in a different direction then the Government wants....will this country eventually implode?....Yes IMO.....

Controlled, weak spirited people will stick with the status quo until it collapses and then and only then do they attempt change. The problem is often that they are too weak to affect change and they only mount a unorganized attempt to keep the control in place. Like Greece. Once the dependence becomes ingrained the people are little better than "popcorn ducks" , easily killed.
 

OntarioVanMan

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maybe you'll get lucky and there will be a military coupe....wipe out Congress and start all over again...
 

layoutshooter

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maybe you'll get lucky and there will be a military coupe....wipe out Congress and start all over again...

Not likely unless things really start to break down. Obama does not have the support of much of the military, which is just one of the reasons he is gutting it. He wants rid of those who would oppose his moves.

The ONLY thing I am happy for is the fact that I am 61 and not 21. I won't have to deal with the terror for very long at my age. I feel bad for my granddaughter. She will likely live to see the horrors that a leftist government will force on the People. I wish I could change it for her sake, but I don't have that power.
 

xiggi

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I KNOW that. That is why I am not voting for him. That is why I am no longer voting for any career politician. They are all the same. Can't trust them.

You need to consider that very hard. Gun rights seems to be one if your big issues. The next president may very well appoint two justices who will be there much longer than the president. Your vote for will only help obama and rest assured he will not point 2nd amendment justices. Think long and hard before wasting the vote you served our country to preserve.

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xiggi

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I think some here are looking for a self fulfilling prophesy.

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garyatk

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To sum up my position. I would rather be part of the solution, than part of the problem...
 

layoutshooter

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Re: Breaking News: The Romney campaign announces Paul Ryan will be the VP running ma

You need to consider that very hard. Gun rights seems to be one if your big issues. The next president may very well appoint two justices who will be there much longer than the president. Your vote for will only help obama and rest assured he will not point 2nd amendment justices. Think long and hard before wasting the vote you served our country to preserve.

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I HAVE been considering this very hard. I believe that regardless if Romney or Obama wins either will be appointing leftist judges. Romney has a strong anti-gun background, almost as bad as Obama.

Again, I don't see the difference. Please show me, based not on what he says but on his record, where I am wrong.
 

layoutshooter

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I think some here are looking for a self fulfilling prophesy.

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Not I. I am looking for a way to end the status quo. Neither of the two candidates, assuming Romney is nominated, will do that. Not that they matter, the congress will not change enough to make any difference.
 

hossman2011

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Layoutshooter... You can't possibly be one of those that is not able to draw distinctions between core beliefs and making decisions for the greater good....... Like Giuliani, Everyone was accusing him of being pro abortion.... he does not believe in abortion but the LAW states it is legal therefore he supported the law!!! so everyone ran with the pro abortion opinion NOBODY ACTUALLY LISTENED.. Romney is not anti gun.... but when he was governor he instituted laws just like Giuliani did in NY to better track where the legal guns were and shore up responsible ownership... Neither of them are anti gun with their core belief!!!
 

layoutshooter

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Show me. What I have read says he outlawed several types of guns. Again, I want hard proof. I am not going to change on an opinion. MA has some of the most restrictive gun laws in the country. It is very anti-gun, and from what I can find, Romney did nothing to change that.

Here is a link to just some of the things I have read. If you have others I am all ears.


Governor Mitt Romney
 

Tennesseahawk

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True enough...so very few actually post their opinions...so of course it is going to sound like a broken record....you are not going to change your core beliefs and neither are the rest like Leo, Dennis, Hawk......they are set in stone...

Not true. I used to be a neo-con. I've been schooled. If something else proves to be better than what I believe now, I'll go with that. But it ain't the status quo.
 

piattteam

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I have no respect for ANYBODY who changes his/her stance on a subject to appease somebody else (or to get their vote).
I have the utmost respect for ANYBODY who changes his/her stance on a subject because they have learned new information.
Those whom are too stuck in their ways to learn, or modify their stance, should not be in public office.
 

skyraider

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One could occupy Washington with disgruntled citizens,. peacefully of course. If we could get everyone out of WalMart for a day or two would be great. So , how do we get a selfish, settled public to demand change. The average working crowd will have to do it, not the kids, no one takes them seriously anyway.imho
 

layoutshooter

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One could occupy Washington with disgruntled citizens,. peacefully of course. If we could get everyone out of WalMart for a day or two would be great. So , how do we get a selfish, settled public to demand change. The average working crowd will have to do it, not the kids, no one takes them seriously anyway.imho


Those who would likely want change are far to busy trying to support the welfare rangers and medikaid mammas to take time for a protest.

I am more for a Million Gun owner march on Washington. THAT would get some attention!
 

skyraider

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Just clog the interstates, have a campout, dont give them any reason to shoot us. Hey, we could find out if the fema camps are real and give the military something to do here, except this would be a peacefull protest based on we aren't gonna take it anymore.. Ask for the resignation of all Senate and House elected officials to start
because they are not doing sheetze, and we know it.

If the previous statements sound radical, well, no one else is saying anything, at least I did not bore you with, "we must create more jobs" and reduce taxes,, Here is a thought: Learn to use cost accounting and let an outside Accounting Firm handle the dollars and cents, because what we / they are doing ain't working.

Stupid is doing the same thing over and over and getting the same results and the Government has been doing the same sheet over and over for years and years, U think?
 
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xiggi

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There is no one man who can change everything. Those of you wanting immediate change in everything are living in a dream world. Layout is so stuck on his ideals he would poke his own eye out just to prove he is right. Go ahead waste your votes but don't start crying see i told you so if obama is re elected.

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layoutshooter

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There is no one man who can change everything. Those of you wanting immediate change in everything are living in a dream world. Layout is so stuck on his ideals he would poke his own eye out just to prove he is right. Go ahead waste your votes but don't start crying see i told you so if obama is re elected.

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What is your problem? Why is it that I have to agree with others to not be ragged on? I have asked for other information than what I have found about Romney to help me with this. No one has posted a single thing. Either no one bothered, OR, there is nothing else. If you have ANY proof that Romney is not exactly what I believe he is, put it up. EVERYTHING I have read puts him in the EXACT same camp as Obama. Prove me wrong, I am listening.
 
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