Trucks Not Moving From Pumps

tenntrucker

Expert Expediter
I remember a couple years ago a driver pulled up from fueling and leaving his truck there to shower. When he came out to leave, somehow his 5th wheel had came unhooked. Made quite a mess. Was at a pilot in eastern Ky.

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LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I remember a couple years ago a driver pulled up from fueling and leaving his truck there to shower. When he came out to leave, somehow his 5th wheel had came unhooked. Made quite a mess. Was at a pilot in eastern Ky.


Can't say I feel sorry for the guy. Hope he learned a lesson from it.
 

Slo-Ride

Veteran Expediter
A very dangerous prank. Esp if the truck made it to the interstate or any other right of way..Not saying I wouldn't get a chuckle out of it seeing the trailer sitting on its nose and thinking to myself what a dumb a** for not checking it before pulling away.. Like to think if I seen someone do this I would attempt to stop it and warn the driver..
 

Murraycroexp

Veteran Expediter
One could envision all kinds of horrible mayhem and death. And the prankster caught on security camera, as well as his truck and the carrier name he operated for.
 

Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
You are Really a newbie to this business raised and pampered and trained the FedEx way If you came through the 50s and 60s you know exactly what I'm talking about
As a team driver one can afford to be anal when it comes to logs. A solo doesn't have that option. I have never run more than one logbook, but I have never been totally accurate either. Call it the fudge factor.

Every day I would fill out my log book, but wouldn't log on duty until necessary. I would keep track of my mileage and times. If a scale came up I could easily log in an on duty time and be up to date on a change of duty status. At the end of the day I would figure out mph and where I should be legally. I wasn't speeding other than a few mph over the posted 55, but my logs showed 53 mph. I was just trying to make the most of my time. Call it thrifty. Call it illegal. I call it practical.
 

Murraycroexp

Veteran Expediter
Don't think, for one single minute, the Feds can't find your admission. And I don't mean Federal Express.

I would suggest you request your post be deleted. Otherwise, one day, the plaintiff's attorney may be paid handsomely to trip over it.
 

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I saw a guy, irate over someone parked at a pump, slip in front if the trl and slip the emergency glad hand off. He rehung it with a quarter between the two rubbers.
When the driver returned, the air was blocked going to the trl and now HE was delayed trying to figure out why his brakes wouldn't release.
Funny, but didn't put any one at risk for injury.
He had to realize someone went to the effort to do it to send him a message.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I saw a guy, irate over someone parked at a pump, slip in front if the trl and slip the emergency glad hand off. He rehung it with a quarter between the two rubbers.
When the driver returned, the air was blocked going to the trl and now HE was delayed trying to figure out why his brakes wouldn't release.
Funny, but didn't put any one at risk for injury.
He had to realize someone went to the effort to do it to send him a message.

And the message is, park at the pumps, earn $0.25.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Remember the days when you could send a VERY clear message.

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Moot

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
I ran a company sanctioned linehaul meet and turn from St. Paul to Windsor, Wi (Madison, exit 132) 5 nights a week for 2 years. The speed limit at the time was 55 mph and we got paid for 536 miles round trip. My calculator shows 53.6 mph, that's pushing it a bit.
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver


Yes. That is absolutely true. But it is also true that some motor carriers hire dullards to work in their safety departments, and at least one carrier I know of actually fired a newly hired safety director when he tried to bring the company into compliance. In many cases, I believe, the problem is not with the safety department itself. It is with the company leadership that resists the letter and spirit of transportation safety laws.

That does not mean that we should blindly accept every law that comes along (recent HOS changes being but one example). I'm talking about the companies that encourage their drivers to cheat and that turn a blind eye drivers who ignore or fail to uphold even the most basic safety practices.



This was on I-95 in Florida, speed limit 70 mph. I was in the left lane in traffic that was heavy but moving mostly at the speed limit. Driving a four-wheeler, I had moved into the left lane to pass a slower moving car in the right lane. While in the left lane, driving 70 mph, the truck came barreling upon me, doing well over 70 mph. It happened quickly and he immediately began his bullying behavior. The speeding, tailgating and aggressive driving (and driving without a seat belt) is on him. I was doing nothing wrong.

The way I read it, you knew [or should have known] that the truck was coming up in the left lane when you decided to move over, thus forcing him to hit the brakes. You justify it by pointing out that he was speeding, but that's irrelevant, IMO. It's not your place to enforce the speed limit for anyone but yourself.
I've been in that truck's position enough times [though I don't tailgate and have never once signaled a vehicle to 'get out of my way!'] to know how it feels when a 4 wheeler forces me to brake because he doesn't want to. I quite understand the truck driver's anger, though aggressive driving is not acceptable, whatever the provocation.
My philosophy is that when someone clearly wants to go faster than I do, the smart thing to do is to get and/or stay out of their way. [Thinking 'bear bait' as they pass, lol] It might be why I've never had an irate trucker or anyone else for a bumpersticker, flashing lights & "bullying" me - but I'd rather be safe than right.
 

NightDriver

Expert Expediter
Owner/Operator
If you came through the 50s and 60s you know exactly what I'm talking about
You drove for a living through the 50s and 60s? What are you, like 85 years old now?

There have been sporadic reports from Open Forum members about delays at the pumps that they attribute to drivers using pump parking to fulfill the 30 minute break that became mandatory with the July 1, 2013 HOS rules change.

Phil, with all due respect, you seem bent on stirring the pot of discontent regarding the latest HOS changes - but to what end? Aren't you poised to abandon the business and open a yogurt shop or dreamcatcher weaving coop or something? Why the effort, dude?

Jeez, you guys.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Phil, with all due respect, you seem bent on stirring the pot of discontent regarding the latest HOS changes - but to what end? Aren't you poised to abandon the business and open a yogurt shop or dreamcatcher weaving coop or something? Why the effort, dude?

Whether I am in the trucking industry or not, I spent over ten years in it and will always care about it. As a trucker, I am directly affected by the trucking rules. As a business person who will rely on trucks and truckers in the future, I will be indirectly affected.

Good public policy matters whether I am a trucker or not, and the newly-effective HOS rules are bad public policy. They are the wrong rules put in place for the wrong reasons. I am interested in learning about the problems they are causing because that information may later be used in advocating changes to them.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Phil, with all due respect, you seem bent on stirring the pot of discontent regarding the latest HOS changes - but to what end? Aren't you poised to abandon the business and open a yogurt shop or dreamcatcher weaving coop or something? Why the effort, dude?

Great attitude, ignorance like that is the one thing that will continue to have American citizens facing more and more burdensome regulations. As drivers we need people other than drivers to care about what is happening to our industry because there aren't enough of us.

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