The Trump Card...

[Pilgrim]

This Teamsters non-endorsement is curious. I have not looked deeply into this. I do wonder, if the polls show strong support for Trump among Teamsters, why did their union not endorse Trump; especially when warm relations were shown by the Teamsters at the Republican convention?

Also, if the polls show strong support for Trump among Teamsters, why are multiple Teamster state organizations and caucuses coming out for Harris?

Something seems off.

What's "off" is the Teamsters' leadership being out of sync with the rank-and-file members. They're trying to play games with both political parties while their members voted overwhelmingly for Trump. Notice their final poll came *after* the DNC convention and the Trump-Harris debate. This result could be a critical indicator of the attitude of middle-class Americans in general.

"In the past week, following the Democratic National Convention and recent Presidential debate, the Teamsters commissioned independent polling firm Lake Research Partners to conduct the union’s final national survey. In the poll ending Sept. 15, Teamsters selected Trump by 58 percent for endorsement over 31 percent for Harris."

Teamsters Release Presidential Endorsement Polling Data

(WASHINGTON) — The International Brotherhood of Teamsters today publicly released six months of membership polling data on the union’s possible endorsement

teamster.org

 

[ATeam]

"In the past week, following the Democratic National Convention and recent Presidential debate, the Teamsters commissioned independent polling firm Lake Research Partners to conduct the union’s final national survey. In the poll ending Sept. 15, Teamsters selected Trump by 58 percent for endorsement over 31 percent for Harris."

One poll among many, and the many favor Harris.

 

[Pilgrim]

One poll among many, and the many favor Harris.

It's not "one poll among many" for several reasons, not the least of which is the sampling group: 1.3M respondents who are working, middle class Americans who are likely voters and are directly effected by the primary issues of the election - the economy/inflation and immigration. They come from all over the country, and historically support the Democrat candidate for POTUS. In two separate votes they rejected Harris by an almost 2:1 margin in spite of their leadership's preference for her. This same phenomenon happened nationally in 2016 - the forgotten middle class Deplorables voted for Trump.

It's now 2024 and Kamala Harris has given neither them nor any other average US citizen any reason to vote for her. She refuses to discuss substantive issues, do press conferences or in-depth interviews, and won't explain her many reversals of previous liberal policy stances that got her tossed early on in the 2020 Democrat primary. Many who aren't familiar with her don't know what she stands for. Those who are know that she's a radical left-wing liberal that will say anything to get elected.

It's fair to say this result from the Teamsters is a critical indicator of the real sentiment among middle class Americans. The pollsters missed this undercurrent in 2016, and they're missing it again eight years later. Trump is already doing better among Blacks now than he did in 2016; if he increases his numbers by only 2% among Evangelicals and gun owners, he'll defy the polls again and win in Nov.

 

[ATeam]

This same phenomenon happened nationally in 2016 - the forgotten middle class Deplorables voted for Trump. ...

It's fair to say this result from the Teamsters is a critical indicator of the real sentiment among middle class Americans. The pollsters missed this undercurrent in 2016, and they're missing it again eight years later. Trump is already doing better among Blacks now than he did in 2016; if he increases his numbers by only 2% among Evangelicals and gun owners, he'll defy the polls again and win in Nov.

In 2016, Trump was a surprise candidate and the pollsters and pundits were caught flat-footed. In 2024, Trump is a known entity; namely, an angry old man with the same old shtick. The pollsters and pundits and campaign strategists are fully aware of Trump and MAGA. They know their game and how to defeat them. Example: the debate. Example: fundraising. Example: ground game. Example: hundreds of notable Republican endorsements. Example: Massive union support for Harris

The Teamsters non-endorsement is an anomaly, not an indicator.

 

[Ragman]

 

[muttly]

It's not "one poll among many" for several reasons, not the least of which is the sampling group: 1.3M respondents who are working, middle class Americans who are likely voters and are directly effected by the primary issues of the election - the economy/inflation and immigration. They come from all over the country, and historically support the Democrat candidate for POTUS. In two separate votes they rejected Harris by an almost 2:1 margin in spite of their leadership's preference for her. This same phenomenon happened nationally in 2016 - the forgotten middle class Deplorables voted for Trump.

It's now 2024 and Kamala Harris has given neither them nor any other average US citizen any reason to vote for her. She refuses to discuss substantive issues, do press conferences or in-depth interviews, and won't explain her many reversals of previous liberal policy stances that got her tossed early on in the 2020 Democrat primary. Many who aren't familiar with her don't know what she stands for. Those who are know that she's a radical left-wing liberal that will say anything to get elected.

It's fair to say this result from the Teamsters is a critical indicator of the real sentiment among middle class Americans. The pollsters missed this undercurrent in 2016, and they're missing it again eight years later. Trump is already doing better among Blacks now than he did in 2016; if he increases his numbers by only 2% among Evangelicals and gun owners, he'll defy the polls again and win in Nov.

I heard Mark Mitchell from Rasmussen talk about how a lot of the current polls that have Harris ahead were way off the mark in 2020. They had Biden with large leads in states that he barely won. Their methodology is very suspect. He currently has Trump winning the national vote by a couple points. He measures national trends so the one day poll result may fluctuate up to 6 points, the five day trend of polls has been rather steady with Trump leading by about two with no attrition of support.

 

[muttly]

In 2016, Trump was a surprise candidate and the pollsters and pundits were caught flat-footed. In 2024, Trump is a known entity; namely, an angry old man with the same old shtick. The pollsters and pundits and campaign strategists are fully aware of Trump and MAGA. They know their game and how to defeat them. Example: the debate. Example: fundraising. Example: ground game. Example: hundreds of notable Republican endorsements. Example: Massive union support for Harris

The Teamsters non-endorsement is an anomaly, not an indicator.

Nobody cares about that Republican list. MAGA wouldn’t know many on it anyway. And the few they may recognize( the “big names”) like The Cheneys, Hayden and others they’ll say GOOD RIDDANCE, move along over to the Dems. Bottomless funding of endless wars is not wanted with Trump and MAGA.

The private sector union members are polling more for Trump than Harris.

The Republican ground game is very underrated. Charlie Kirk and his crew are reportedly doing good things in battleground states that matter for the EC. But keep believing that they don’t have a ground game.

Regarding the debate. It’s been debunked that he lost and that it hurt him. Independents preferred him and their support is showing in the polls.

 

[ATeam]

How Many?

Another notable Republican defects to support Harris. This one is a Haley voter. These defectors are adding up. How many will follow? How many voters will they influence to also vote for Harris?

OPINION: I co-chaired Nikki Haley's Iowa campaign. I am endorsing Kamala Harris.

Lifelong Iowa Republican Dawn Roberts writes that Kamala Harris has shown "willingness to listen to a wider range of views to solve problems."

www.desmoinesregister.com

 

[ATeam]

Nobody cares about that Republican list. MAGA wouldn’t know many on it anyway. And the few they may recognize( the “big names”) like The Cheneys, Hayden and others they’ll say GOOD RIDDANCE, move along over to the Dems. Bottomless funding of endless wars is not wanted with Trump and MAGA.

The private sector union members are polling more for Trump than Harris.

The Republican ground game is very underrated. Charlie Kirk and his crew are reportedly doing good things in battleground states that matter for the EC. But keep believing that they don’t have a ground game.

Regarding the debate. It’s been debunked that he lost and that it hurt him. Independents preferred him and their support is showing in the polls.

You seem to have fully adopted the MAGA alternative facts strategy. You're quite good at it.

 

[muttly]

You seem to have fully adopted the MAGA alternative facts strategy. You're quite good at it.

That’s pesky facts:

 

[ATeam]

Trump Media Stock Update

"Shares of Trump Media & Technology Group slumped to their lowest level ever Friday, the first trading day that its biggest shareholder, former President Donald Trump, is free to sell his stake in the company behind the Truth Social platform." (Source)

 

[ATeam]

Trump's Endorsed NC Gubernatorial Candidate now Persona Non Grata

Trump sure knows how to pick them, doesn't he?

Mark Robinson: Republicans absorb political shockwave in must-win North Carolina

Scandalous claims about a Trump-endorsed candidate for governor generate turbulence on the campaign trial.

www.bbc.com

 

[Ragman]

Trump's Endorsed NC Gubernatorial Candidate now Persona Non Grata

Trump sure knows how to pick them, doesn't he?

Mark Robinson: Republicans absorb political shockwave in must-win North Carolina

Scandalous claims about a Trump-endorsed candidate for governor generate turbulence on the campaign trial.

www.bbc.com

The problem is, Maga will make excuses for him.

 

[Pilgrim]

Trump's Endorsed NC Gubernatorial Candidate now Persona Non Grata

Trump sure knows how to pick them, doesn't he?

Mark Robinson: Republicans absorb political shockwave in must-win North Carolina

Scandalous claims about a Trump-endorsed candidate for governor generate turbulence on the campaign trial.

www.bbc.com

What if the CNN claims aren't true?

"The BBC has not independently verified CNN’s claims."

 

[muttly]

This is a presidential election.People are going to show up to vote for president. Trump is outperforming republican candidates for various offices in polls. Any potential weak candidate won’t drag Trump’s vote tally down. If anything, and likely in many cases, it will boost their totals.

 

[ATeam]

If Trump Has a Ground Game, It's Not Working

This report is telling. There has been talk of Trump's ground game, funded and run not by his campaign, but by other interest groups. What's likely going on is some highly skilled political operatives are raising funds and lining their personal pockets by telling others they are running a ground game for Trump's benefit, but they're going to deliver little if nothing.

"It is difficult to demonstrate that something is not happening. But with fewer than 50 days until the Nov. 5 election, dozens of Republican officials, activists and operatives in Michigan, North Carolina and other battleground states say they have rarely or never witnessed the group’s canvassers"

Scammers beget scammers.

The Harris ground game is quite different. By any measure; funds spent on ground game, canvassing activity, phone bank activity, ground-game spending, number of local campaign offices, number of volunteers, number of volunteer hours, etc.; Harris is playing the better game.

This could make the difference. In a race that is said to be this close, the campaign that inspires voter turnout is the likely winner. Trump is trying to win from behind the rally podium and interview camera. Harris is doing the same but has a ground game too.

The stark difference is evident between the parties too. The Democrats are deeply interested in running a good ground game. MAGA Republicans approach this with passing interest at best.

Republicans in swing states say they see scant signs of groups door-knocking for Trump

Republican activists in swing states say they’ve seen little sign of the teams tasked with knocking on doors and turning out infrequent voters on behalf of Donald Trump.

apnews.com

 

[muttly]

If Trump Has a Ground Game, It's Not Working

This report is telling. There has been talk of Trump's ground game, funded and run not by his campaign, but by other interest groups. What's likely going on is some highly skilled political operatives are raising funds and lining their personal pockets by telling others they are running a ground game for Trump's benefit, but they're going to deliver little if nothing.

"It is difficult to demonstrate that something is not happening. But with fewer than 50 days until the Nov. 5 election, dozens of Republican officials, activists and operatives in Michigan, North Carolina and other battleground states say they have rarely or never witnessed the group’s canvassers"

Scammers beget scammers.

The Harris ground game is quite different. By any measure; funds spent on ground game, canvassing activity, phone bank activity, ground-game spending, number of local campaign offices, number of volunteers, number of volunteer hours, etc.; Harris is playing the better game.

This could make the difference. In a race that is said to be this close, the campaign that inspires voter turnout is the likely winner. Trump is trying to win from behind the rally podium and interview camera. Harris is doing the same but has a ground game too.

The stark difference is evident between the parties too. The Democrats are deeply interested in running a good ground game. MAGA Republicans approach this with passing interest at best.

Republicans in swing states say they see scant signs of groups door-knocking for Trump

Republican activists in swing states say they’ve seen little sign of the teams tasked with knocking on doors and turning out infrequent voters on behalf of Donald Trump.

apnews.com

Door knocking is out-dated and largely ineffective. Most people don’t want a stranger knocking on their door to talk politics. They’re reportedly doing much more effective measures than that.

 

[ATeam]

What if the CNN claims aren't true?

"The BBC has not independently verified CNN’s claims."

Lindsey Graham correctly said, "If [the claims are] not true, [Robinson] has the best lawsuit in the history of the country for libel.”

It is telling that Robinson has not sued or threatened to sue.

The actions by Robinson's top campaign officials, those who know him best, suggest the CNN report is true. So too with Trump himself who has banned Robinson from his rallies and no longer mentions him in public.

Robinson's top campaign officials are not denying the claims as Robinson is. They are resigning from the campaign. Robinson's campaign has collapsed. His key people have abandoned him. Fundraising has dried up. His polling numbers have tanked. It's game over for him.

Trump, who endorsed Robinson, and the Republicans who nominated Robinson, are forever tainted with the smell.

Even without the CNN reporting, a Republican who voted to nominate Robinson had to be intentionally ignorant to overlook his many faults. They did exactly that and are now reaping what they sewed.

Several Mark Robinson campaign staffers quit as fallout over online posts continues

The campaign said that senior adviser Conrad Pogorzelski III, campaign manager Chris Rodriguez, the campaign’s finance director and the deputy campaign manager “have stepped down from their roles with the campaign.”

apnews.com

 

[ATeam]

Door knocking is out-dated and largely ineffective.

Yeah, right. That's why today's professional political operatives pour millions of dollars and countless hours (or in Trump's case pretend to pour millions of dollars and countless hours) into this activity.

 

[ATeam]

The Real Reason Trump's Ground Game Sucks

The reason Trump and the Republicans are not trying to turn out voters like the Democrats are is the Republicans are working suppress Harris voters instead.