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muttly

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Oh, lookie here. There was another FBI investigation on Trump that was opened.
Next week should be illuminating:
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ATeam

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When in doubt go to the source. Here's a tweet with receipts from Lover Boy's firm.

From the article you cited:

"Among the documents reviewed by DailyMail.com, were Wade’s invoices to the DA. Shockingly, they including one bill for an ‘interview with DC/White House’ for eight hours on November 18 2022 and another for eight hours including ‘conference with White House Counsel’ on May 23 2022."

OK. That establishes that the meetings in question happened. The next logical question is, what were the meetings for? What was discussed and with whom? While the conspiracy theorists are happy to leap the the conclusion that Biden is coordinating the prosecutions against Trump, it seems to me at least plausible that these meetings were part of the investigation by GA prosecutors then underway.

Assuming the invoices presented are authentic, they only establish that certain meetings happened. They do not establish who requested the meetings, the purpose of the meetings, who exactly the meetings were with, and what exactly was discussed. Such questions are legitimate but not yet answered. Jumping to the conclusion without evidence that coordination is afoot is not legitimate.

On another matter, it continues to astound me how blatantly stupid Willis and Wade were to let their romantic impulses go unchecked when both of them are in the midst of the most important investigation/prosecution they will ever do, and in a matter in which every aspect of their personal and professional lives will be put under the public microscope. It has been said that love is blind. In this case it was blind, deaf, dumb and unconscious. There is no rational excuse for this. These professionals knew better but did not act well. Idiotic!
 
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The Case Has Been Submitted

This morning, the US Supreme Court heard arguments on the Trump ballot eligibility case. Contrary to what some have suggested, the 14th Amendment cases and actions developed thus far were no joke. They were taken seriously by everyone involved at the Supreme Court level.

How will they rule? The TV talking heads are suggesting the justices indicated a willingness to rule in Trump's favor. But no one knows for sure. All we can do is wait for the ruling.
 
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Highly unqualified. They're more apt to give her ambassador to Uruguay or somewhere similar just to get her out of sight.
It won't matter if she's highly unqualified. It will come down to what is most politically advantageous to retain power for Dems. An unpopular Harris would replace Sotomayor(who is publicly complaining about the court)and squirrel her away there. Sotomayor will retire from the SCOTUS and be showered with lucrative book deals, high paying speaking gigs, and college president offers.
 

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two people of color having an affair,,,,now if thats not a distraction,,,guess they will be adversting Tide detergent nxt...lol
 
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Pilgrim

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The Atlanta case against Trump is toast. In reading through this thread of tweets it becomes evident that Willis is even more corrupt than it first appeared. The icing on the cake is that Biden's staff colluded with her in the prosecution of Trump, confirming their political influence in this mess. Willis will be removed or forced to resign, and it's likely that no other decent prosecutor will take up this tainted sham. Wonder if Willis's mugshot will be on t-shirts and coffee mugs?
 
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The Atlanta case against Trump is toast. In reading through this thread of tweets it becomes evident that Willis is even more corrupt than it first appeared. The icing on the cake is that Biden's staff colluded with her in the prosecution of Trump, confirming their political influence in this mess. Willis will be removed or forced to resign, and it's likely that no other decent prosecutor will take up this tainted sham. Wonder if Willis's mugshot will be on t-shirts and coffee mugs?
And how is this even proper?
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ATeam

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The Atlanta case against Trump is toast. In reading through this thread of tweets it becomes evident that Willis is even more corrupt than it first appeared. The icing on the cake is that Biden's staff colluded with her in the prosecution of Trump, confirming their political influence in this mess. Willis will be removed or forced to resign, and it's likely that no other decent prosecutor will take up this tainted sham. Wonder if Willis's mugshot will be on t-shirts and coffee mugs?
Willis has her problems, obviously. But Willis is not the case. Trump et al were indicted by a grand jury of ordinary citizens that heard testimony and viewed the evidence. Even if Willis and Wade are given the boot, the case will not go away. If the Fulton County DA is ordered off the case, the likely next step is it would be assigned to a different county DA who would step in to continue the case.

If the case is a tainted sham, as you suggest, you are right, no other decent prosecutor would take up the case. But I don't think the case is a tainted sham. Again, it was the grand jury that indicted Trump et al. If Willis is given the boot, and that is not certain, I think there are several county prosecutors in GA who would answer the call to continue the case.

I do not know what the GA mechanism is for managing a case if the county DA prosecuting it is removed or quits. Some official or some official body will decide what to do with the case. Before we learn if there is a county prosecutor available to take the case, we must first learn who the deciding person or body is, and what they think about the case. If they think it is a tainted sham, then, yes, the case is dead.
 
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This article is not specifically about Trump, but it gets into the mindset of the far right religious people. The most relevant paragraph of the article spells it out pretty good:

Evangelicals claim to believe in the "truth and the light," and yet here they are, using duplicitous techniques borrowed from the world of con artists. But this is sadly not surprising, in an era where white evangelicals have convinced themselves they're at war with the larger culture. The framework of "holy war" creates permission to violate all sorts of moral codes. Over 60% of white evangelicals back Trump's Big Lie about the 2020 election, and nearly one-third say they believe political violence is justified to get their way. (Odds are that the real number is much higher, but there's a reluctance to admit as much to a pollster.) White evangelicals feel entitled to use lies and violence in order to gain political power. So of course they are fine with using deception to trick more people into becoming warriors for MAGA Christ.
 
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RLENT

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From the article you cited:

"Among the documents reviewed by DailyMail.com, were Wade’s invoices to the DA. Shockingly, they including one bill for an ‘interview with DC/White House’ for eight hours on November 18 2022 and another for eight hours including ‘conference with White House Counsel’ on May 23 2022."

OK. That establishes that the meetings in question happened.

Not necessarily.

For those that missed it, the source was Garrett Ziegler (aka "Marco Polo") ... an unqualified twatwaffle lunatic MAGAt troll that once served in the Trump Administration.

He's the guy that granted access to Rudy, Sidney, and Michael Flynn and got them into the WH shortly before Jan 6th ... which resulted in an unhinged meeting with WH Counsel, Trump, and others ... trying to get Trump to declare martial law.

Ziegler has already admitted that he hacked into files on a hard drive that was (purportedly) a copy of the drive on Hunter's laptop (which itself is a federal crime (via the CFAA), given that the owner certainly didn't authorize it) ... and Ziegler is on video doing it.

Don't recall offhand, but he may have also copped to altering or planting files on it as well.

He's - along with a number of others - now being sued by Hunter Biden ....

These people are so stoopid it literally boggles the mind.

:joycat:

The next logical question is, what were the meetings for? What was discussed and with whom? While the conspiracy theorists are happy to leap the the conclusion that Biden is coordinating the prosecutions against Trump, it seems to me at least plausible that these meetings were part of the investigation by GA prosecutors then underway.

Yup.

Or something else entirely.

Like maybe a meeting with a former WH Counsel ... whose name might rhyme with "Patsy Baloney" ...

:joycat:

Interestingly, the invoice shows that the one of the meetings with "WH Counsel" was in ... (wait for it) ... Athens ...

I'd assume that to be Athens, GA.

:rolleyes:

Assuming the invoices presented are authentic, they only establish that certain meetings happened. They do not establish who requested the meetings, the purpose of the meetings, who exactly the meetings were with, and what exactly was discussed. Such questions are legitimate but not yet answered. Jumping to the conclusion without evidence that coordination is afoot is not legitimate.

Correct.
 
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