The Trump Card...

ATeam

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That sums up the whole issue. But why should we accept the allegation that he sexually assaulted her when there's no proof; not a shred of evidence was offered in court, just her vague and unbelievable hearsay.
You're just repeating points previously made. I'm not interested in talking in circles. You have had your say, and so has the jury. End of story unless something new develops on appeal.
 
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skyraider

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We are now leaving this country in the hands of foreign invaders,,, if you have little ones,,we have dump on them a fine mess...............imho
 
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Pilgrim

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You're just repeating points previously made. I'm not interested in talking in circles.
No, I'm asking questions that aren't being answered - in the media or anywhere else. And yes, we'll see how the appeals process turns out, but that will be after the election. But the NY Democrats got the verdict they wanted, and that's what matters to them. They Got Trump.
 
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ATeam

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Trump is not immune from prosecution in his 2020 election interference case, US appeals court says​

Notice how he keeps losing on the legal questions while trying to get delays on procedural issues. His court date do eventually come.

The Trump Organization tax fraud case eventually came and he lost. The two Carroll trials eventually came and he lost those too. Regarding his four criminal indictments, those court dates are closer than they have ever been. Trump cannot delay things forever.

Trump loses his cases in court because he actually committed the crimes he was charged with. When the trials eventually come, Trump is doomed to lose.
 
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ATeam

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Trump is not immune from prosecution in his 2020 election interference case, US appeals court says​

1. The appeals court affirmed the Chutkan ruling and eviscerated all defenses offered by Trump. The Supreme Court will note this as they consider taking up this case or not.

2. The three-judge decision was unanimous. The panel includes one "staunch conservative" judge. Those conservative views are part of the ruling.

3. The appeals court stripped Trump of delay tactics. They ruled quickly. They also said that if Trump asks for a hearing by the full appeals court (en banc), it will not delay the case from being heard by Judge Chutkan. The lower court trial will be allowed to continue as the en banc hearing proceeds.

4. The appeals court gave Trump until Monday to appeal to SCOTUS. Normally the window to appeal to SCOTUS is 90 days. On to Trumps abuse of the courts, The appeals court reduced the window to just a few days.

5. If Trump appeals to the Supreme Court (expected), SCOTUS will decide to take the case or not, and to stay Chutkan's activities or not. We don't know what, SCOTUS will do. My GUESS is they will not take up the case. Instead, they will quickly kick it back to Chutkan's court. That's because chances of Trump's appeal success are zero. His case has no legal merit. There is no controversy to resolve. The national precedent has already been set by the DC Court of Appeals, which is the second-highest court in the land. There is no need for SCOTUS to further act.

That's pretty much it for Trump. Except for appealing to SCOTUS, Trump's delay tactics are used up. Baring any further delays provided by SCOTUS, the case will resume in Chutkan's court.

Finally, if SCOTUS does provide a delay for Trump, DA Bragg is ready to proceed with his criminal felony case against Trump in March.
 
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skyraider

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So in other words, Trump is down for the count and the FBI will not be rumaging through Trumps family undewear....and on with open borders and more of the same old same old.....So what will we all do with Harris......she as goofy as daffy duck...oh, wait, forgot about old Joe
 
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ATeam

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So in other words, Trump is down for the count and the FBI will not be rumaging through Trumps family undewear....and on with open borders and more of the same old same old.....So what will we all do with Harris......she as goofy as daffy duck...oh, wait, forgot about old Joe
There are no other words, unless you want to change the subject. The word today is the DC Court of Appeals dealt Trump a major defeat and a scathing, unanimous opinion that eviscerates the legal arguments Trump would take to the US Supreme Court, if they decide to take the case, and that's a big if.
 

skyraider

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There are no other words, unless you want to change the subject. The word today is the DC Court of Appeals dealt Trump a major defeat and a scathing, unanimous opinion that eviscerates the legal arguments Trump would take to the US Supreme Court, if they decide to take the case, and that's a big if.
So it aint over yet....................
 
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RLENT

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So in other words, Trump is down for the count

Not down yet ... but the window for The Mango Manchurian Candidate's salvation is closing.

and the FBI will not be rumaging through Trumps family undewear....

There are classified investigations which are ongoing ... one of which was recently referenced in the Columbian Traitor's courtroon.

So all bets are off as to whose underwear drawers the Fed's might be rummaging through.

and on with open borders and more of the same old same old.....

The borders aren't "open".

So what will we all do with Harris......she as goofy as daffy duck...oh, wait, forgot about old Joe

Probably don't want to go there ...

Jus' sayin' ...

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ATeam

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So it aint over yet....................
It may be all over but the crying. The MSNBC lawyers I listen to (Katyal and Weissmann, because they usually turn out to be right) are predicting that the US Supreme Court will quickly deny Trump's request for a stay and it will not hear Trump's appeal.

At present, Judge Chutkan has suspended activities on this case pending the results of Trump's appeals. Trump just lost at the DC Circuit Court of Appeals. His last chance for a reversal of Chutkan's immunity ruling or a delay is with the Supreme Court. If these lawyers are correct, and SCOTUS denies Trump's requests, Chutkan will reactivate the case and the trial will conclude before the November election.

Another path has been suggested. In that scenario, SCOTUS accepts the case but denies the stay. In that event, Chutkan would also reactivate the case and the trial would conclude before the November election.

Some say SCOTUS might do this because the immunity question is one of great historical importance, and one that has not been considered by SCOTUS before. For that reason, the Supreme Court justices may feel the need to put the SCOTUS stamp of approval on the DC Circuit Court of Appeals' ruling by affirming it.

Various other scenarios have been suggested. The two most likely scenarios are described above.

BTW, there are nine justices on the US Supreme Court. To grant Trump's request for a SCOTUS hearing, four justices must vote yes. To stay the trial in Chutkan's courtroom, five votes are needed.
 
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ATeam

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Trump is said to be having difficulty finding a surety company to post the bond required to cover his appeal in the $83.3 million E. Gene Carroll case. That's because he used the powers of the presidency to shield himself from civil liability. That's how he managed to delay the Carroll case for so long. Bonding companies are reluctant to fund a bond that size for someone who may be re-elected, stiff the bonding company, and leave them powerless to do anything about it until he again leaves office.

In this case, the chickens are coming home to roost. Trump may eventually find a surety company but if he does, the terms are likely to be harsh.
 
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