The Trump Card...

muttly

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Hopefully anyone who would vote for Trump and owns an electric car is having second thoughts. Keep it up and you wont have anyone wiling to vote for you!!!
Likely won’t be too many anyway. Half the dealers don’t even want to sell them.
 
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RLENT

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That’s because private citizen Mueller’s appointment wasn’t challenged to the Supreme Court like they are doing now with Jack Swift.

Trump's attorney's aren't challenging Jack Smith's appointment to SCOTUS.

The amicus brief that did so was offered by those who are not a party to the case.

Please learn how all this works before offering such misinformed commentary in the future.

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But please find the statute that AG Garland referenced that applies.

Already cited in Garland's appointment letter.

It doesn’t exist.

Wrong.

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Trump's attorney's aren't challenging Jack Smith's appointment to SCOTUS.

The amicus brief that did so was offered by those who are not a party to the case.

Please learn how all this works before offering such misinformed commentary in the future.

:joycat:



Already cited in Garland's appointment letter.



Wrong.

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I didn’t say Trump’s attorneys did. You’re assuming something that I didn’t claim. It was Edwin Meese and other law professors. I referenced him in a previous post. Reading is fundamental.
I figured you couldn’t name a statute and back it up with facts but instead went with “Garland said it, so it must be ok”.
 
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Not for me. When I wrote my post I had no thoughts of Biden. I do not disagree that Biden is showing signs of aging, so much so that I do not think he will be the nominee. I think, and hope, he will decide his health issues are such that it is best for him to withdraw from the race.\
When cognitive issues are brought up, Biden is the poster boy. If the Democrat party had a truly viable alternative they could easily force him out of the race; the reality is, they don't. He is not able to understand why he should withdraw from the race, and his wife and family won't pressure him to do so.
If that happens, a successor candidate will emerge; likely Harris, but maybe someone else...
If the worst you can say about Harris is "word sallads," she may be able to knock Trump off.
There's absolutely no chance Harris would defeat Trump or any other GOP candidate. The "word salads" comment was probably the best thing that could be said about her. She has no redeeming personal qualities, and since being in the national spotlight as Biden's VP her stunning incompetence has made her unelectable to any political office. Her unfavorable ratings are consistently in the mid-fifties, and even the Democrats don't consider her a viable candidate for POTUS.
The Democrats could come up with a better candidate than Harris, but as the incumbent Vice President, she has the inside track and it will be hard to knock her out of it.
If the Democrats had a strong younger candidate, they would have brought him/her forward by now. They don't. Newsome flopped, so they're stuck with Harris.
 
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Harris isn’t likable. She is also inarticulate and incompetent. Other than that, she is a great candidate.
 
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Pilgrim

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1. History shows the incumbent POTUS almost always loses the House in midterm elections. Four of the past five presidents have done so.
2. Trump didn't hold or run for office in 2021, 2022 or 2023. Attaching him to these elections is irrelevant.
3. US elections aren't decided by popular vote.
4. In spite of nonstop bashing from the media since 2016 and unprecedented political persecution by an incumbent administration, Trump is the 2024 GOP favorite by an overwhelming margin; no other candidate is close, or even relevant. Like it or not, he's going to be the nominee.

On the other hand, the Democrats have an incumbent who's accumulated the worst performance in office since the Civil War and suffers mental and physical disabilities not seen since Woodrow Wilson's stroke in 1919. At the same time, the most incompetent VP in modern times is literally a heartbeat away from the presidency and the nomination for 2024.

Do the Democrats really want to nominate this ticket for a second term?
 

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On the other hand, the Democrats have an incumbent who's accumulated the worst performance in office since the Civil War ...
That's a bit much. The Biden administration touts a long list of accomplishments positive for the country. Being luke-warm on the guy at best, I'm not going to get into defending Biden. But I'm not going to accept "the worst performance in office since the Civil War" either.

 
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Michigan Development in 14th Amendment Question

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"The Michigan Supreme Court rules that state election law does not prohibit former President Donald Trump from being included on primary ballots there, but the court also makes clear that he could still be excluded from general election ballots." (Emphasis mine) (Source)

The Michigan plaintiffs have already said they will refile this case if Trump is the nominee for the general election in that state. With the MI court signalling such a filing would be legitimate, it's obvious that this is a serious matter, not a joke as some have suggested.
 
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That's a bit much. The Biden administration touts a long list of accomplishments positive for the country. Being luke-warm on the guy at best, I'm not going to get into defending Biden. But I'm not going to accept "the worst performance in office since the Civil War" either.

Whether you accept his failures or not, there's no other POTUS in modern times - if ever - that has mismanaged so many different critical aspects of American governance. The above article, written by a Democrat party operative from MA is long on verbiage and short on substance; I didn't get past item #7 that listed the Afghanistan withdrawal as a positive accomplishment.

The rest of my response is in the O'Biden thread since it has nothing to do with Trump.
 
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ATeam

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First Michigan Fake Elector Flips

This retired state trooper expresses deep regret, agrees to cooperate, and gets all charges against him dropped.

 
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This story is much ado about nothing anyway. The backdrop of what happened was that the Wayne County Republican Canvassers had major reservations about certifying the votes due to the tabulations being incorrect. The pressure came from protests and threats against them to certify the votes regardless. Trump, along with the RNC chair were telling them don’t succumb to the pressure and be steadfast while an election lawyer would be provided to help them.
Trump responds:
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Maine bars Trump from ballot as US Supreme Court weighs state authority to block former president​


We've come to a bad place when state political operators can unilaterally remove their opposition candidates from their state's ballot. Which Red state will be the first to remove Biden?

From the article:
"Maine’s Democratic secretary of state on Thursday removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s presidential primary ballot under the Constitution’s insurrection clause, becoming the first election official to take action unilaterally..."
 
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We've come to a bad place when state political operators can unilaterally remove their opposition candidates from their state's ballot.

The bolded part above is misspelled - it was, in fact, an elected state constitutional officer ... acting in accordance with an oath they swore to uphold the US Constitution.

Which Red state will be the first to remove Biden?

Whatever would they remove him for ?

From the article:
"Maine’s Democratic secretary of state on Thursday removed former President Donald Trump from the state’s presidential primary ballot under the Constitution’s insurrection clause, becoming the first election official to take action unilaterally..."

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes ...

El Donaldo wins another one ... hopefully he will get all he deserves !
 
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We've come to a bad place when state political operators can unilaterally remove their opposition candidates from their state's ballot.
As I understand it, and as RLNT correctly states, the Main Secretary of State is a constitutional officer bound by state law. When voters file with her office a challenge to the ballot eligibility of a candidate, she is required by law to conduct an administrative hearing and make a ruling. She did not initiate this action. A group of voters did when they filed their complaint against Trump's eligibility.

Once the administrative hearing began, she heard both sides and said she would announce her decision. Before she announced, the Colorado Supreme Court made its ruling that Trump is disqualified by the 14th Amendment from holding the office of president. When that news broke, the Maine Secretary of State delayed her announcement, and gave both sides additional time to review the Colorado ruling submit additional filings if they wished. She then further considered the testimony and evidence, and made the finding she did.

The Maine Secretary of State is not a judge and this was not a trial in a court of law. She is a state constitutional officer who conducted the administrative hearing Maine law required her to conduct.

Regarding the "unilaterally" part, Maine law vests this decision solely in the Secretary of State. That's just the way it is. The law also provides an appeal process, such that the secretary's decision can be appealed to the state supreme court, which will certainly happen.

The election laws differ from state to state. In Maine, challenges to candidate eligibility begin with voter actions filed with the Secretary of State. From there they can be appealed to court. Colorado is different. In that state, the process for a challenge begins in court and the Secretary of State implements the decisions of the courts. In Maine too, the secretary will implement the decisions of the courts, so the end result will be the same. It's just that in these two states, different paths will be followed to arrive at the same result.

Regarding the finding made by the Maine Secretary of State, it was hers to make. Those who disagree with it have the right to appeal and argue for its reversal.

Which Red state will be the first to remove Biden?
I would be surprised if any red state did such a thing. Biden is qualified to be president because he is over 35, is a natural born US citizen, and there is no evidence that he engaged in insurrection.

It is important to note that the 14th Amendment does not require someone to be CONVICTED of insurrection to be disqualified from holding the office of president. The exact language of the Constitution is "engaged in insurrection." The Colorado district court found Trump engaged in insurrection. The Colorado Supreme court upheld that finding. And now the Maine Secretary of State also so found.

The practical effect of all this is the US Supreme Court will likely take up this question soon. On that, it seems all parties are agreed. They want this question to be heard and finally resolved by the US Supreme Court. Whatever the US Supreme Court ruling may be, it will end all lower court and administrative proceedings and apply the same in all states.
 
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