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ATeam

ATeam

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muttly said:
The Left wanted to humiliate Trump. The must be butt hurt over this though:
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Per Google Bard:

According to the sources I have found, Trump has raised the following amounts of money after each of his indictments:
  • March 30, 2023: Indicted by a Manhattan grand jury on charges of making hush money payments to an adult film star during his 2016 campaign. Raised $13.5 million in the week after the indictment.
  • June 1, 2023: Indicted by a federal grand jury on charges of handling classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort. Raised $5.8 million in the week after the indictment.
  • June 13, 2023: Arraigned in Miami on the federal charges. Raised $1.3 million in the day after the arraignment.
  • August 25, 2023: Indicted by a grand jury in Fulton County, Georgia on charges of election interference. Raised $7.1 million after the indictment.
In total, Trump has raised over $27 million in the wake of his four indictments.

Winning? Being indicted four times on 91 felony criminal counts is winning? Being a criminal felony defendant subject to the rules imposed by four different judges is winning? A 2.80% win rate in court (97.2% loss rate) is winning? Being ruled against by the US Supreme Court is winning? Having your home and office searched by the FBI is winning? Having your accounting firm publicly state your financial statements are unreliable is winning? Having your company convicted of tax fraud is winning? Having a judge rule in court that you are a rapist is wining? Going down in history as the most corrupt president in the history of the United States (Jan 6 Committee report) is winning?

If fundraising is the sole measure of winning, maybe Trump should agree to serve one month in jail as an ordinary inmate for every $1 million raised. Millions of Americans would contribute to that fund and Trump would be the biggest winner of all time.
 
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The "Trump is disqualified by the 14th Amendment" idea is gaining traction.

1. In New Mexico, a county official who participated in the insurrection has been removed from office under the 14th Amendment. His name is Couy Griffen. He appealed this action to the New Mexico Supreme Court and the Court dismissed his appeal. In Feb. 2023, Griffen asked the Court to reconsider and they denied that motion too. (Story here) This is not a hypothetical example. It is a real-world, modern-times, case in which a public official was removed from office under the 14th Amendment, and he is barred from holding public office again.

2. Similar action has been initiated in Georgia. A group of voters filed a complaint with the GA Secretary of State. They seek the removal of Marjorie Taylor Greene from office on 14th Amendment grounds. Greene responded by filing a lawsuit in federal court. She is asking the Court to block the Secretary's proceeding. (Story here)

3. A Florida attorney recently filed a lawsuit in Palm Beach County regarding this matter. (Story here) To me, this seems premature as no presidential candidate of any party, and no independent candidate, has yet filed to be on that ballot. There is a process for that. Such filings will come at a later date.

4. SiriusXM radio personality Dean Obeidallah has become outspoken on this issue. In an approach that seems more appropriate for the time, he is urging his listeners to contact their Secretaries of State and ask them to start considering the question now. Everyone knows this is coming. If the Secretaries of State think about this in advance, and consult their state Attorney Generals, as many are likely to do, the Secretaries will be prepared to deal with the issue when the ballot access filings begin. They can provide instant and clear guidance to the parties and the public regarding Trump's eligibility, and the parties and Trump can quickly react.

Obeidallah provides a template email message for people to use when contacting their Secretary of State. You can read it here (scroll to the bottom of the page).

I think it is wise for every Secretary of State to prepare now for what's coming. Every one of them is going to get sued for the decision they make or do not make. If Trump is allowed on the ballot, certain voters will sue to have Trump disqualified on 14th Amendment grounds. If Trump is not allowed on the ballot, Trump will sue the Secretary of State to argue the 14th Amendment does not apply, and to thereby gain ballot access.

A Secretary of State who is not preparing in advance will be forced to deal with the issue anyway. No one on either side of this will be content to wait while a Secretary sits on this. They will make emergency appeals to get things moving.
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This is developing way faster than I anticipated.

After posting the above earlier today, I later learned that a lawsuit is developing in New Hampshire to keep Trump off the NH presidential primary ballot on 14th Amendment grounds. The NH Secretary of State is directly involved. The question is no longer hypothetical. Things got real on Tuesday.

"On Tuesday, Bryant 'Corky' Messner, a lawyer who lives in New Hampshire, became the first person to announce concrete plans to [bring the lawsuit]. Messner was endorsed by Donald Trump when he ran for a New Hampshire's U.S. Senate seat in 2020.

"New Hampshire's Secretary of State Office confirmed to ABC News that Messner met with Secretary of State David Scanlan Friday to discuss Section 3 of the 14th Amendment.

"'Secretary Scanlan will be conferring with the New Hampshire Attorney General and other legal counsel on this issue; however, he believes any action taken under this Constitutional provision will have to be based on Judicial guidance,' Anna Sventek, communications director for Scanlan, told ABC News in a statement." (Source)

If this question is not quickly taken up by the US Supreme Court, lawsuits like these are certain to be filed in all 50 states. State Republican parties will likely foot the bill, but Trump's attorneys will be involved too. Trump is going to have to sell a lot of coffee mugs to keep his lawyers on the job.

Here's Breitbart's take on the issue.

With the NH primary filing period likely to open in Nov. 2023, we could see meaningful court action on the disqualification question in two months or less.
 
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ATeam

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coalminer said:
Hmmm, good question, why not just pay the bond and get the entire thing back rather than paying a 10 percent fee. We poor people dont have a choice like that, but Trump should be able to just write a check for that amount.
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Here's the answer:

"Wealthy figures frequently hire bondsmen — even when they can afford to post the full amount — to make sure the process goes off without a hitch and check that they don't violate the terms of their bail, ..." (Source)
 
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Showing their support:
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RLENT

RLENT

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ATeam said:
I have not viewed the interview even once. But the way Twitter (now X) counts the views, my account is responsible for dozens of views.
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Yup:

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So, basically, if at least 50% of the video is visible in the window - and it plays for 2 seconds (minimum) - Twitter counts it as "a view" ... with seems thoroughly ... "musky" ...

:clapping-happy:

Not sure if they really have any way to track if a viewer watches a substantial portion, let alone the entire thing ...

:tearsofjoy:
 
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Trump's Federal Election Interference Trial Date: March 4, 2024

"'Setting a trial date does not depend and should not depend on the defendant’s personal and professional obligations. Mr. Trump, like any defendant, will have to make the trial date work regardless of his schedule,' said U.S. District Court Judge Tanya Chutkan." (Source)
 
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ATeam

ATeam

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Speedy trials are now in fashion again:
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Trump is the sole defendant in a four-count case. Little if any of this has to do with classified documents that require special handling. The trial date is six months off, and Trump has known for a long time that he has been or will be indicted in these matters. Most of the witnesses against him are people he worked with. Most of the documents are documents that came from his administration. Trump is already intimately familiar with much of the evidence. He produced a lot of it himself.

The fact that there are millions of pages of discovery materials handed over is not in itself significant. These are electronic documents easily searched. And they are well organized by DOJ who is even highlighting the evidence they plan to use.

With the trial six months away, Trump and his team have all the time they need to prepare a defense.

Regarding "speedy trial," a trial date six months away is hardly "speedy." If you want an example of a speedy trial, look at Georgia where Cheseboro demanded a speedy trial last week (late Aug.) and got a start date of Oct. 23.
 
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ATeam said:
Trump is the sole defendant in a four-count case. Little if any of this has to do with classified documents that require special handling. The trial date is six months off, and Trump has known for a long time that he has been or will be indicted in these matters. Most of the witnesses against him are people he worked with. Most of the documents are documents that came from his administration. Trump is already intimately familiar with much of the evidence. He produced a lot of it himself.

The fact that there are millions of pages of discovery materials handed over is not in itself significant. These are electronic documents easily searched. And they are well organized by DOJ who is even highlighting the evidence they plan to use.

With the trial six months away, Trump and his team have all the time they need to prepare a defense.
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Dream on.
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