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I'm reading today that Trump has posted over 50 times on Truth Social in the last 24 hours (still counting). Does anyone know what his 24-hour tweet-storm record was when he was on Twitter?
Wait what? I thought there was a major concern by some previously that Trump rarely posted on his site and it was an ominous sign about Truth Social. Now apparently he is posting too much. Alrighty then.
 

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Wait what? I thought there was a major concern by some previously that Trump rarely posted on his site and it was an ominous sign about Truth Social. Now apparently he is posting too much. Alrighty then.

The flop sweat is rolling off him in waves ... and it's a joy to behold.

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Wait what? I thought there was a major concern by some previously that Trump rarely posted on his site and it was an ominous sign about Truth Social. Now apparently he is posting too much. Alrighty then.
I said nothing about Trump posting too much. I'm simply looking to gauge the level of posting in a 24 hour period. I'm not on Truth Social but I'm reading reports about a large number of posts on a number of wide-ranging topics. Just curious how this compares to previous times. Is Trump losing it, or is this behavior a coping mechanism observed before?

They searched his house.
In it's recent filing, DOJ eviscerated Trump's privilege claims.
Because Trump now has a competent attorney, he may not like what he is being told.
Trump storms on Truth Social.

Is this something new, or something we've seen before?

Quantifiable, factual data sought. What is the highest number of tweets/truths Trump has posted in a 24 hour period?
 
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The Desk Drawer and the Mouth

Had Trump not gone to court to request a special master, one thing would not have led to another such that the DOJ filed the response it filed last night, as the judge ordered. But from that response it is now known that some the the classified documents in question were found in one of Trump's desk drawers, commingled with personal effects.

Earlier, when we only had the warrant to discuss, a document that Trump also forced into public view, three crimes were named. At that point, I noted that while crimes were named, it did not say who committed them. With the desk drawer find, the focus is shifting more and more onto Trump himself.

The more Trump says and does about this matter, the more details come out, and the worse it looks for him. It is not in Trump's best interests to talk about this like he is, but talk, and talk and talk he does.
 

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When it comes to my desk at home and at work, its a mess, I will be the first to admit I am a slob when it comes to cleanliness, but when you are handling secret documents you cant just leave them laying anywhere, they need to be secured.

Trump running his mouth right now on Truth is doing nothing but hurting him.

I said it during the election and I will say it again, someone needs to break his fingers and wire his jaw shut for his own good.....
 
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Irony

"When Trump himself was President, he signed a law beefing up the penalties for mishandling classified material—increasing the crime for inappropriately moving classified material from a misdemeanor to a felony, and the maximum penalty from one year to five years in prison. The importance of protecting classified information was an issue he campaigned on, routinely criticizing his opponent Hillary Clinton for using a private server for emails while she was Secretary of State. “In my administration, I’m going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law,” Trump said at a campaign event in Charlotte, N.C., on Aug. 18, 2016. (Source)
 
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"When Trump himself was President, he signed a law beefing up the penalties for mishandling classified material—increasing the crime for inappropriately moving classified material from a misdemeanor to a felony, and the maximum penalty from one year to five years in prison. The importance of protecting classified information was an issue he campaigned on, routinely criticizing his opponent Hillary Clinton for using a private server for emails while she was Secretary of State. “In my administration, I’m going to enforce all laws concerning the protection of classified information. No one will be above the law,” Trump said at a campaign event in Charlotte, N.C., on Aug. 18, 2016. (Source)
The statute doesn’t pertain to Presidents because they have the power to declassify classified documents. Statutes don’t usurp constitutionally given powers.
 

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Pretty ironic the the party of law and order has
become a party like this.

At one point in my life I could disagree with someone but still respect him. I have lost all respect for those that would tear down this great republic and those that blindly follow such fools.
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The statute doesn’t pertain to Presidents because they have the power to declassify classified documents. Statutes don’t usurp constitutionally given powers.
You have mentioned this several times and I have not responded to your point until now. There is an argument that counters yours and that will likely be made in court at a future date. I don't have time to go into it now. More to follow. For now, kindly note that not everyone agrees that the documents in question were declassified. Also, some have suggested that whether or not the documents are classified are of secondary importance. For the purposes of prosecuting a crime under the law named in the search warrant, it is only necessary that the document is connected to national security and is important in that regard. Again, I don't have time now to present the details. More to follow.

It is an important claim/question you raise. Were the documents classified? And even if they were not, do they rise to a national security level such that a crime was committed by improperly possessing/protecting/storing them?
 

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You have mentioned this several times and I have not responded to your point until now. There is an argument that counters yours and that will likely be made in court at a future date. I don't have time to go into it now. More to follow. For now, kindly note that not everyone agrees that the documents in question were declassified. Also, some have suggested that whether or not the documents are classified are of secondary importance. For the purposes of prosecuting a crime under the law named in the search warrant, it is only necessary that the document is connected to national security and is important in that regard. Again, I don't have time now to present the details. More to follow.

It is an important claim/question you raise. Were the documents classified? And even if they were not, do they rise to a national security level such that a crime was committed by improperly possessing/protecting/storing them?
He had secret service protecting it, regardless what it was.
 

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You have mentioned this several times and I have not responded to your point until now.
Preview of where I'm going with this:

"Since the Aug. 8 search at Mar-a-Lago, Trump, his lawyers, and Fox News commentators have repeatedly incanted the refrain that there can be no crime because Trump had “declassified” everything anyway.

"As one Fox “legal commentator” asserted: “If Trump declassified them as he insists, then the statute involving the retention of ‘defense information’ has no relevance.”

"The problem with this alternate defense is that it is both legally inaccurate (because the relevant statutes apply, whether or not information is formally “classified”) and it actually is foreclosed by a Supreme Court case involving former president Richard Nixon,..." (Source)
 
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He had secret service protecting it, regardless what it was.
If the former president had a stash of cocaine at Mar-a-Largo, would the Secret Service be obligated to protect that too?

If asked to do so, it is highly unlikely that the Secret Service would testify that their duties included protecting classified documents at Mar-a-Lago; especially those that are illegally there. Even if they wanted to, I think the Secret Service would be hard-pressed to demonstrate with orders or records or rules giving them that responsibility.

Note that when the FBI arrived to search Mar-a-Lago, the Secret Service did not protect the former president's interests, office, papers or personal effects in any way. They instead opened the doors to let the FBI in.

Interesting note. If Trump goes to jail, a secret service detail will follow him there to protect this ex-president. Pity the poor agents who draw that duty.
 
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If the former president had a stash of cocaine at Mar-a-Largo, would the Secret Service be obligated to protect that too?

If asked to do so, it is highly unlikely that the Secret Service would testify that their duties included protecting classified documents at Mar-a-Lago; especially those that are illegally there. Even if they wanted to, I think the Secret Service would be hard-pressed to demonstrate with orders or records or rules giving them that responsibility.

Note that when the FBI arrived to search Mar-a-Lago, the Secret Service did not protect the former president's interests, office, papers or personal effects in any way. They instead opened the doors to let the FBI in.

Interesting note. If Trump goes to jail, a secret service detail will follow him there to protect this ex-president. Pity the poor agents who draw that duty.
Secret Service provides protection to Trump at Mar-a-Lago right? How would they do that unless they made sure the place was secure, along with the documents there?
 
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