The Trump Card...

[muttly]

As it should, given that he oversaw the team that conducted the investigation and contributed to the final report.



It's a pretty large report (448 pages) ... I'd say it's a fairly safe bet that Mueller has a decent handle on the overall "big picture" contained within it, even if he couldn't recite some of the minutiae right off the top of his head while testifying.



Errr ... no.

The report was written by a number of individuals, including Weismann.

In fact, there is another "alternative" report that Weissman had a hand in seeing getting written up - to make sure EVERYTHING was documented - that was never released.

Don't know whether that will contain any new "bombshell" revelations, but it should make some interesting reading. It probably won't be all that flattering to Donny.

Thanks to a FOIA filed by the NYT, you can expect to have that available perhaps as early as late January '22:

The public could soon see an ‘alternative’ version of the Mueller report that’s been kept under wraps, new court filing says



No, wrong again.





Your first mistake is listening to Federalist's Mollie ...



The fact is Weismann was, at one time, scheduled to host/headline a "virtual fundraiser" for Biden - he was never a "campaign manager".

Here's the whole article (which for some reason you didn't link, perhaps because it directly contradicts a number of your previous assertions ?):

Former Top Mueller Lieutenant Will Do ‘Fireside Chat’ to Raise Money for Joe Biden’s Campaign

Now one can debate the optics of that and whether it was wise or not ... but the fact remains:

Andrew Weismann was a private citizen and no longer employed by the Department of Justice at the time.

Perhaps you feel that individuals who were once in government service give up their 1st Amendment rights and shouldn't be allowed to campaign and raise money for candidates of their choosing.

If that is the case maybe you should tell the Orange Guy - you know: the Sore Loser - to shut his pie hole and keep his thoughts to himself.

I don’t think Mueller oversaw anything based on his congressional testimony.
There is no debate. Everyone agrees that “optics” looked bad that he became Biden’s campaign manager. Even the Biden campaign who cut him loose.

 

[muttly]

You seem to think that rationalizing is some sort of all-in, 100%-extremes-only kind of thing.

It isn't.



There is no "other case" ... and that's the problem.

You want someone to be charged for violent actions they allegedly undertook during rioting - I get that ... yet you (or law enforcement apparently) can't identify or name who these morons were.

How is that supposed to work exactly ?

If you can't apprehend or identify it's kind of hard to charge or arrest.



Ok.



Well, you'd think Faux News would be all over it.

If there weren't any arrests made the best one can say is that Ol' Donaldo failed to get it done ... which doesn't say much about his competence in supervising those under his command, or his picks as to who he put in charge.

Got it . When the Left does it. Oh, “we can’t see nothing”. “We don’t know who done nothing”. I’m sure there are multiple cameras and videos of the reported attacks of bricks and water bottles heaved at officers. Why no FBI pictures posted of these individuals that perpetrated the attacks? Because they want to sweep it under the rug and forget it.
Oh, now Donald should have dictated to the FBI director to arrest these people? I thought the Left was all against Trump giving orders to FBI chiefs? Which is it?

 

[danthewolf00]

Muller admitted he didn't know what was in the report because he didn't write it.....I should know I sat and watched that mockery of a interview on tv live....it kind of the reason they lost the impeachment trial twice.....because both were shams to keep trump out of office.

 

[danthewolf00]

It still becomes "rules for thee but not for me" with the Democrats double standard.

 

[muttly]

Muller admitted he didn't know what was in the report because he didn't write it.....I should know I sat and watched that mockery of a interview on tv live....it kind of the reason they lost the impeachment trial twice.....because both were shams to keep trump out of office.

Even Shifty realized after the testimony Mueller gave how much of a mental decline there was with him. He said he wouldn’t have called him if he knew. Why didn’t any on the Mueller team let people know before hand? Because he was an easy dupe who could be a figurehead while Weismann and his angry Democrats could concoct their witch-hunt unfettered.

 

[muttly]

Because that was most certainly a restricted area at the time, and it was where the threat of violence to elected officials was most serious.

Someone that actually entered the Capitol one could say might be more predisposed to commit violence against elected officials than someone who remained outside.

 

[muttly]

Blockbuster Revolver article just broke. Looks like a coordinated effort by a few that curiously haven’t been charged.
For one, a dude on a scaffold with a bullhorn in a restricted zone ordering people to keep moving up to the capitol. But not charged, along with Ray Epps who is all over the place ordering people to go in to the capitol. He was also involved with the initial breach at a strategic entrance that many protesters were funneled to.
As the article concludes there might be an excellent case for entrapment for many.

Meet Ray Epps, Part 2: Damning New Details Emerge Exposing Massive Web of Unindicted Operators at the Heart of January 6 - Revolver News

Revolver blows open a network of still-unindicted operators who appear to have been intimately involved in the initial Jan. 6 Capitol breach.

www.revolver.news

 

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"any January 6 protester...could be kept in prison without bail until a criminal trial 12+ months away".

And that's exactly what they're doing in our nation's capitol, keeping these American citizens incarcerated under deplorable conditions with very little publicity from the mainstream media. Finally, a congressional group got inside the DC jail to inspect the situation and uncovered what one would expect to find in a banana republic prison. Compare this to the insignificant legal responses to the antifa / BLM riots of 2020 that resulted in billions of dollars in property damages to federal, state and local properties along with dozens of deaths and injuries.

Perhaps a double legal standard is being imposed?

"More than a dozen Republican lawmakers led by Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert are demanding that a D.C. Jail deputy warden be fired over what they call the mistreatment of Jan. 6 Capitol riot detainees.
In a letter sent to the city’s Democratic Mayor Muriel Bowser on Thursday, 14 GOP House members accused Deputy Warden Kathleen Landerkin of treating Jan. 6 detainees as “subhuman.”
“Jan. 6 defendants [have] reported being subjected to months of solitary confinement, verbal abuse (e.g., called ‘white supremacists’), harassment, beatings from guards, denial of basic medical care, religious services, communion, nutritious diet, and access to attorneys,” they wrote."

GOP lawmakers: D.C. jail mistreating ‘Caucasian’ prisoners, abusing Jan. 6 detainees

More than a dozen Republican lawmakers led by Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert are demanding that a D.C. Jail deputy warden be fired over what they call the mistreatment of Jan. 6 Capitol riot detainees.

www.washingtontimes.com

 

[RLENT]

I don’t think Mueller oversaw anything based on his congressional testimony.

Yeah ... but you also think Revolver is delivering "blockbuster articles".



They are highly biased (to the right), lack transparency, use questionable sourcing, and feature low credibility.

Akin to the Gateway Pundit, but a little more highbrow ...

There is no debate.

Sure there is.

Everyone agrees that “optics” looked bad that he became Biden’s campaign manager.

Nope, not accurate.

First, not everyone agrees.

Secondly, as I pointed out previously: he wasn't a campaign manager.

Even the Biden campaign who cut him loose.

Well yes, apparently they thought so ... otherwise they probably wouldn't have cancelled it.

 

[RLENT]

Got it.

Clearly, you don't "got it".

When the Left does it. Oh, “we can’t see nothing”. “We don’t know who done nothing”.

Not a question of "the Left".

I asked YOU ... and YOU couldn't name a single individual.

Nor apparently could anyone in the relevant law enforcement agencies, DOJ, etc.

I’m sure there are multiple cameras and videos of the reported attacks of bricks and water bottles heaved at officers.

You're "sure" of all sorts of things ... including that Revolver publishes "blockbuster articles" ...



And while it may be true that there were some cameras present and some video was recorded, there may not be all that much that is usable, in terms of identifying individuals ... depending on what time that the attacks occurred.

Why no FBI pictures posted of these individuals that perpetrated the attacks?

Depends ... and is hard to answer without knowing exactly which specific/particular events you're referring to (date, and time that they occurred)

If you are referring to something that occurred at night, after dark, it may be for several reasons:

1. they simply don't have any in that instance (much of the stuff used to identify the domestic terrorist/insurrectionist wannabes on January 6th came from independent media largely recorded during daylight ... or the morons themselves who decided it would be really cool to livestream their own riot to the internet ... ), or

2. because any photos or footage they may have wouldn't be useful in identifying suspects (time of day, low light, bad camera angle, etc.)

Because they want to sweep it under the rug and forget it.

Yeah ... sure:

DC-Property-081720-web.pdf | Federal Bureau of Investigation

Man Charged in Federal Court for Attempting to Tear Down Statue of Andrew Jackson in Lafayette Square Amid Protests

That's sure a funny way to sweep things under the rug ...

Oh, now Donald should have dictated to the FBI director to arrest these people?

I didn't say that ...

But he was tweeting:

Trump tweets FBI wanted poster for protesters who tried to topple Andrew Jackson statue

... for all the good that it did ...

I thought the Left was all against Trump giving orders to FBI chiefs? Which is it?

Ask someone on "the Left" ...

 

[RLENT]

Muller admitted he didn't know what was in the report because he didn't write it.....I should know I sat and watched that mockery of a interview on tv live....it kind of the reason they lost the impeachment trial twice.....because both were shams to keep trump out of office.

No ... the reason was because many elected Republicans - particularly those in the House and Senate - have become terrified of their base, don't have spines, are amoral/strictly transactional, and are incapable of leadership or acting in good faith.

The base has become Y'all Qaeda ...

That doesn't bode well for the future of the country.

 

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So what ?

 

[RLENT]

Blockbuster Revolver article just broke.

Woooo-hoo !!!

Looks like a coordinated effort by a few that curiously haven’t been charged.
For one, a dude on a scaffold with a bullhorn in a restricted zone ordering people to keep moving up to the capitol. But not charged, along with Ray Epps who is all over the place ordering people to go in to the capitol. He was also involved with the initial breach at a strategic entrance that many protesters were funneled to.

I think it's pretty funny that the problem you seem to be having with federal law enforcement is that they aren't charging the Jan 6th domestic terrorists/insurrectionists ... fast enough ...

I'd say it's a fair bet, that Mr. Epps is probably a Trumper ... so if that is in fact true, then all this speculation on the extreme Right amounts to eating their own.

Which is straight out of Ol' Donaldo's playbook ... which worked out really fantastic in those two Senate races down in GA this last time.



OTOH, the "MaroonPB" guy Revolver was previously whining about ... and alluding to possibly being a government agent/informant just got arrested the other day (back on December 1st):

Alleged Proud Boys associate charged in Capitol riot after FBI identified him in an August photo with Sidney Powell

Oooops !

Now that's sure a nexus if ever there was one.

As the article concludes there might be an excellent case for entrapment for many.

From the crack anonymous legal team at Revolver ...

 

[RLENT]

"any January 6 protester...could be kept in prison without bail until a criminal trial 12+ months away".

And that's exactly what they're doing in our nation's capitol, keeping these American citizens incarcerated under deplorable conditions

Nope, wrong ... the domestic terrorists/insurrectionists are being housed in a different wing than the one where there were serious problems (where the non-January 6th prisoners were being housed and were ultimately relocated to other facilities)

If memory serves, it's the Central Detention Facility versus the Central Treatment Facility of the DC jail. Two different buildings as the article you linked notes.

Believe the insurrectionists are in the CTF, not the CDF.

At any rate, whichever one the insurrectionists are in was inspected by the Bureau of Prisons and given a pass/clean bill of health.

with very little publicity from the mainstream media. Finally, a congressional group got inside the DC jail to inspect the situation and uncovered what one would expect to find in a banana republic prison.

Such drama !

But glad to see you are now onboard with reforming jail/prison conditions.

Hope you can keep it up and continue ... when the folks involved aren't ‘Caucasian’ ...

Perhaps a double legal standard is being imposed?

Yeah ... they kept the common criminals from DC (likely mostly POC's) locked up in the building with the crappy conditions (until it was discovered by the BOP and they had to move them elsewhere) ... and put the (mostly) Caucasian insurrectionists in the nicer facility.

Definitely a double legal standard.

Good catch.

"More than a dozen Republican lawmakers led by Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and Texas Rep. Louie Gohmert are demanding that a D.C. Jail deputy warden be fired over what they call the mistreatment of Jan. 6 Capitol riot detainees.

Sounds like Marge and Louie are playing the race card.

I sure didn't see that coming ...

 

[RLENT]

President Trump did offer 10k national guard troops for safety at the Capitol building and around the area but Pelosi refused.....I wonder why....oh yea the fake insurrection.

Making an offhand comment in the presence of the Sec Def and his CoS isn't an "offer" ... so ...

Debunked:

Trump falsely claims he ‘requested’ 10,000 troops rejected by Pelosi

 

[muttly]

So what ?

What do you mean so what?

 

[muttly]

Nope, wrong ... the domestic terrorists/insurrectionists are being housed in a different wing than the one where there were serious problems (where the non-January 6th prisoners were being housed and were ultimately relocated to other facilities)

If memory serves, it's the Central Detention Facility versus the Central Treatment Facility of the DC jail. Two different buildings as the article you linked notes.

Believe the insurrectionists are in the CTF, not the CDF.

At any rate, whichever one the insurrectionists are in was inspected by the Bureau of Prisons and given a pass/clean bill of health.



Such drama !

But glad to see you are now onboard with reforming jail/prison conditions.

Hope you can keep it up and continue ... when the folks involved aren't ‘Caucasian’ ...





Yeah ... they kept the common criminals from DC (likely mostly POC's) locked up in the building with the crappy conditions (until it was discovered by the BOP and they had to move them elsewhere) ... and put the (mostly) Caucasian insurrectionists in the nicer facility.

Definitely a double legal standard.

Good catch.





Sounds like Marge and Louie are playing the race card.

I sure didn't see that coming ...

Dude, that’s not playing the race card if it is actually happening to certain individuals due to their race.

 

[muttly]

Making an offhand comment in the presence of the Sec Def and his CoS isn't an "offer" ... so ...

Debunked:

Trump falsely claims he ‘requested’ 10,000 troops rejected by Pelosi

“You do what you need to do” is an order to a subordinate. Nice spin though.

 

[danthewolf00]

No I remember that trump made the offer to Pelosi for the troops but she turned him down.

 

[muttly]

Nope, wrong ... the domestic terrorists/insurrectionists are being housed in a different wing than the one where there were serious problems (where the non-January 6th prisoners were being housed and were ultimately relocated to other facilities)

If memory serves, it's the Central Detention Facility versus the Central Treatment Facility of the DC jail. Two different buildings as the article you linked notes.

Believe the insurrectionists are in the CTF, not the CDF.

At any rate, whichever one the insurrectionists are in was inspected by the Bureau of Prisons and given a pass/clean bill of health.



Such drama !

But glad to see you are now onboard with reforming jail/prison conditions.

Hope you can keep it up and continue ... when the folks involved aren't ‘Caucasian’ ...





Yeah ... they kept the common criminals from DC (likely mostly POC's) locked up in the building with the crappy conditions (until it was discovered by the BOP and they had to move them elsewhere) ... and put the (mostly) Caucasian insurrectionists in the nicer facility.

Definitely a double legal standard.

Good catch.





Sounds like Marge and Louie are playing the race card.

I sure didn't see that coming ...

BTW, the guy that signed prison reform was Trump.