Panther Sitting at Truck Stops

[OntarioVanMan]

Actually I have 100% on time, and acceptance so for me personally that can't be issue with dispatch.
I actually thought maybe that hurts me to the tune of "this one will take it, give the short run to this van"
My main problem is simply not knowing where the "customers" all are yet and positioning myself accordingly.
I drive for a fleet owner who also drives so shouldn't the company want to keep fleet owners happy by keeping their other trucks moving too? Honestly guys I'm not complaining just want to learn what Im doing wrong and try to be as successful as possible.

It takes time....observe, listen and don't over think....sometimes things appear, that just aren't there....relax and enjoy...there is no conspiracy, just a layer of rules you have to, must learn to cope with....they'll make no sense but it is what you have to work with.....you are not going to change Panther....as said many a times...

Embrace the stupidity.....and you'll do fine....

 

[chefdennis]

Sooo you are saying that the Carrier should play "Favorites" to the "Fleet Owners" trucks becuase he has more trucks contracted to them and the single unit O/O can take whats left over ???

You ever read the book by Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People ? You might consider it..LOL, you might also consider that you are asking for help on a board that is made up primarily of O/O's....

 

[Newtothis]

Sooo you are saying that the Carrier should play "Favorites" to the "Fleet Owners" trucks becuase he has more trucks contracted to them and the single unit O/O can take whats left over ???

You ever read the book by Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People ? You might consider it..LOL, you might also consider that you are asking for help on a board that is made up primarily of O/O's....

No I was asking if they do for O/O as suggested by others above that I would think fleet trucks would be included too. I personally know this hasn't been the case. I hope it isn't.

 

[greg334]

The problem is if any of us has a way to predict loads, it would make some one millions. The company does not even know. The best one can do is to understand how their system works then us it. Like I said, panther will allow you to get your own work.

 

[Moot]

Actually I have 100% on time, and acceptance so for me personally that can't be issue with dispatch.

No need to apologize on a public forum for your 100% acceptance! We all make mistakes and should learn from these mistakes. I'm currently at 82% acceptance, mostly due to the spate of lowball f.s.c. last month. Being a .77er can also hurt your chances for a load. If there is a .72er further from the shipper and there is enough time, Panther will pay the extra deadhead and more than make up for it with the extra nickle a mile over the length of the haul.

Also being Canadian qualified can lead to sitting while other nearby vans get loads. If you are Canadian qualified and there are two other vans nearby that are not, and the area has a history of Canadian bound loads, you sit and wait for the trip up north that may or may not pan out.

If your fleet owner also drives, ask about where to layover to better position yourself. Ask before you get to the delivery, not after sitting for 3 days.

 

[Jefferson3000]

The problem is if any of us has a way to predict loads, it would make some one millions. The company does not even know. The best one can do is to understand how their system works then us it. Like I said, panther will allow you to get your own work.

Very true. Expedite is a waiting game, and impatient expediters tend to make very bad, costly decisions for themselves.

There are very few areas of us that I would venture to call a bad area. Some choices might prove to be wiser than others, such as a solo into southern Texas might not prove to be the very best, but is still doable. The only reason I would say that about a solo straight is that there are so many teams that end up there, so shopping customers have greater options.

It's been said before on here, but even the best location is not awesome every day. The same goes for "bad locations." a bad location is not bad every day. Sometimes it's the day of the week. Sometimes it's the equipment you do or don't have available that makes the difference in being competitive.

I agree that one must learn the system of the carrier you are leased to. Also, if you're with a dispatch based company and are able to get to know a couple of the dispatchers, it certainly helps. But then you must decide whether to trust their experience of seeing all of the freight, versus the guy you just met at the truck stop that only sees what he obtains from his own carrier.

 

[skyraider]

It takes time....observe, listen and don't over think....sometimes things appear, that just aren't there....relax and enjoy...there is no conspiracy, just a layer of rules you have to, must learn to cope with....they'll make no sense but it is what you have to work with.....you are not going to change Panther....as said many a times...

Embrace the stupidity.....and you'll do fine....

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[Turtle]

I, for one, would love to have people comprehend what I wrote. I didn't mention Panther, or imply it was part of that issue.

Then be more clear in your prose and communicate more effectively. You responded directly to someone about a Panther issue in a thread entitled "Panther Sitting at Truck Stops", which implicitly infers you are talking about Panther, unless you took it upon youself to change the topic of the thread. And so it goes....

 

[scottm4211]

Thanks Turtle.

 

[chefdennis]

Thanks Turtle.

Me too...

 

[greg334]

Then be more clear in your prose and communicate more effectively. You responded directly to someone about a Panther issue in a thread entitled "Panther Sitting at Truck Stops", which implicitly infers you are talking about Panther, unless you took it upon youself to change the topic of the thread. And so it goes....

Well if this is a "panther issue" you put on your mod hat and done your little mod job to put it in the Panther forum so all the little panther people are happy happy happy.

Nevertheless, he didn't ask a specific question about Panther, he asked a very valid question that was in context of the thread itself but not about JUST panther, maybe you missed it.

Why is there this much sitting at the PILOT or TA with any company? Is it still time of year?

It was in that form I answered that question with a generic answer, which some apparently can't comprehend that it was generic answer - hint you have to read his post first. You could tell, or at least my 12 year old niece knew what I was talking about and could see it was generic when I opened with the following;

the truth is that it all depends on the company and how they manage their capacity.

Where do you see PANTHER in that sentence?

Where did you see it in any part of that post?

But alas, I understand, I'm a target of yours and others so I tolerate the crap to help when I can.

So here is the rest of HIS question and more of a reason why I put it in the manner I did ...

Is it something Im missing? Why are companies still hiring more on if its slow? Is everyone this slow? Go easy Im just trying to understand cause and effect here and learn what I may be doing wrong to be one of these mentioned sitting vans.

Now to me he's trying to learn, not just about PANTHER but about things that matter with any company, and of course with the generic answer I gave, I expected others to step in and help answer expand on it, not make a big whoop about one word. By the way, Moot did twice very well I might add but overall you reinforced the favoritism statement pretty well to, maybe well enough to get into the EHOF.

 

[Newtothis]

Well if this is a "panther issue" you put on your mod hat and done your little mod job to put it in the Panther forum so all the little panther people are happy happy happy.

Nevertheless, he didn't ask a specific question about Panther, he asked a very valid question that was in context of the thread itself but not about JUST panther, maybe you missed it.



It was in that form I answered that question with a generic answer, which some apparently can't comprehend that it was generic answer - hint you have to read his post first. You could tell, or at least my 12 year old niece knew what I was talking about and could see it was generic when I opened with the following;



Where do you see PANTHER in that sentence?

Where did you see it in any part of that post?

But alas, I understand, I'm a target of yours and others so I tolerate the crap to help when I can.

So here is the rest of HIS question and more of a reason why I put it in the manner I did ...



Now to me he's trying to learn, not just about PANTHER but about things that matter with any company, and of course with the generic answer I gave, I expected others to step in and help answer expand on it, not make a big whoop about one word. By the way, Moot did twice very well I might add but overall you reinforced the favoritism statement pretty well to, maybe well enough to get into the EHOF.

I have to jump back in and agree with Greg here that it was me who more generalized the topic by asking about all companies. Maybe I was trying to have someone help prove to myself again that its not just me and it's not just Panther sitting in the truck stops.

I can see now that it's not and thank all who reached out with advice.
I'm glad I put go easy in there too (should have on my other post in other forum) since many were so worked up from it. I needed my shelled friend back in there!!! LOL

 

[fastrod]

Sooo you are saying that the Carrier should play "Favorites" to the "Fleet Owners" trucks becuase he has more trucks contracted to them and the single unit O/O can take whats left over ???

When you look at it from a carriers point of view thats the way it should be. Its a lot easier to replace a single O/O truck than a fleet owner with 20 or 30 trucks. Its just good business to your biggest customers (fleet owners) happy first.

 

[chefdennis]

When you look at it from a carriers point of view thats the way it should be. Its a lot easier to replace a single O/O truck than a fleet owner with 20 or 30 trucks. Its just good business to your biggest customers (fleet owners) happy first.

Yeap, from the "Carrier" standpoint I totally agree....but i can tell you that "it doesn't happen with a "Good" carrier"...

 

[asjssl]

Yeap, from the "Carrier" standpoint I totally agree....but i can tell you that "it doesn't happen with a "Good" carrier"...

Define a good carrier??


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[Newtothis]

Sooo you are saying that the Carrier should play "Favorites" to the "Fleet Owners" trucks becuase he has more trucks contracted to them and the single unit O/O can take whats left over ???

You ever read the book by Dale Carnegie, How to Win Friends and Influence People ? You might consider it..LOL, you might also consider that you are asking for help on a board that is made up primarily of O/O's....

In case you yourself haven't read it in awhile here's the summary for a refresher.

Part One
Fundamental Techniques in Handling People

Don't criticize, condemn or complain.
Give honest and sincere appreciation.
Arouse in the other person an eager want.
Part Two
Six ways to make people like you

Become genuinely interested in other people.
Smile.
Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.
Talk in terms of the other person's interests.
Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely.
Part Three
Win people to your way of thinking

The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.
Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong."
If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.
Begin in a friendly way.
Get the other person saying "yes, yes" immediately.
Let the other person do a great deal of the talking.
Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers.
Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view.
Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires.
Appeal to the nobler motives.
Dramatize your ideas.
Throw down a challenge.
Part Four
Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment

A leader's job often includes changing your people's attitudes and behavior. Some suggestions to accomplish this:
Begin with praise and honest appreciation.
Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly.
Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.
Ask questions instead of giving direct orders.
Let the other person save face.
Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be "hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise."
Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to.
Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct.

 

[chefdennis]

In case you yourself haven't read it in awhile here's the summary for a refresher.

Part One
Fundamental Techniques in Handling People

Don't criticize, condemn or complain.
Give honest and sincere appreciation.
Arouse in the other person an eager want.
Part Two
Six ways to make people like you

Become genuinely interested in other people.
Smile.
Remember that a person's name is to that person the sweetest and most important sound in any language.
Be a good listener. Encourage others to talk about themselves.
Talk in terms of the other person's interests.
Make the other person feel important - and do it sincerely.
Part Three
Win people to your way of thinking

The only way to get the best of an argument is to avoid it.
Show respect for the other person's opinions. Never say, "You're wrong."
If you are wrong, admit it quickly and emphatically.
Begin in a friendly way.
Get the other person saying "yes, yes" immediately.
Let the other person do a great deal of the talking.
Let the other person feel that the idea is his or hers.
Try honestly to see things from the other person's point of view.
Be sympathetic with the other person's ideas and desires.
Appeal to the nobler motives.
Dramatize your ideas.
Throw down a challenge.
Part Four
Be a Leader: How to Change People Without Giving Offense or Arousing Resentment

A leader's job often includes changing your people's attitudes and behavior. Some suggestions to accomplish this:
Begin with praise and honest appreciation.
Call attention to people's mistakes indirectly.
Talk about your own mistakes before criticizing the other person.
Ask questions instead of giving direct orders.
Let the other person save face.
Praise the slightest improvement and praise every improvement. Be "hearty in your approbation and lavish in your praise."
Give the other person a fine reputation to live up to.
Use encouragement. Make the fault seem easy to correct.

Believe me there has been several copies pass through my hands and i have paid for severalof my employees to take his course as i myself have...but hey, thanks for update that you found when you googled it:

http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HowToWinFriendsAndInfluencePeople

 

[chefdennis]

Define a good carrier??


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Whatever carrier works for each of us as an "individual" or "Fleet Owner"....

 

[Newtothis]

Just making sure because I have been practicing these highlights while participating on the forum. You however seem to use much sarcasm with me for asking questions or giving my opinion. I included this googled copy to maybe allow you to point out exactly why you felt it appropriate to recommend it to me.

 

[chefdennis]

Just making sure because I have been practicing these highlights while participating on the forum. You however seem to use much sarcasm with me for asking questions or giving my opinion. I included this googled copy to maybe allow you to point out exactly why you felt it appropriate to recommend it to me.

From post # 60:

I drive for a fleet owner who also drives so shouldn't the company want to keep fleet owners happy by keeping their other trucks moving too?

Your insinuation / inquirey that the carrier should keep the "fleet owners" units moving while asking questions in a forum that in mostly made up of 1 unit O/O's kinda flys in the face of thinking you will make friends with those "single unit" O/O's....unless i read that wrong, it looks like you were saying, "hey i drive for a fleet owner, so the carrier should do all they can to keep him happy and me moving'......at whos expense do you think that would happen???

Don't get me wrong, i own 2 units (just a wee little owner/business person) id love for my carrier to give me favored treatment (and more then a few will be right in here to twll you he does, lol, but it certainly isn't because i am a "fleet owner"), but you can ask Fleet owners with many more units then me, our carrier does not do it.....and i while id love it, i don't expect it...BUT..thats why i bribe dispatch with cheesecake and donuts....thats how how i "influence people and make friends..." I even make sure the Owner of the company gets a nice big slice of Chocolate covered Cheesecake...reminds me i need to make 3-4 more and deliver them, Thanks...

And just a side note, if you think this thread has been sarcastic, lol..stick around a while, as the old song goes, "you ain't seen nothin yet"....and me personally, lol i am a babe in the woods compared to the 'real deal" sarcastic posters here...LOL, i've even seen 1 or 2 in this thread....but you have to understand, if you were having a few "pot shots" taken at your posts, they just might be ignored all together.....