Obama follows Constitution on Syria
- Thread starter Ragman
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They have no problems gassing each other.
Neither side is clean. Chances are if we do get involved we would be helping Al Qaeda. If not, it does not matter, either side will turn on us as soon as it is over.
Keep in mind that what you see on the "news" is only what this administration WANTS you do see, nothing more.
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Concur with Layoutshooter...we do not need this and i hope it is the President looking for a way out hoping Congress says no...and I HOPE they do say no this time...nothing good can come from this...yes we did weaken ourselves with big talk...but we can recover from that...a senseless strike with no support from our Allies...not a good idea. Even though the CIC says he can do this strike unilaterally, i do not believe he has the Authority in this case and i hope he too realizes this if Congress says no. What happened to "severe sanctions" being the answer...Sanction that country along with all countries that harbor any person involved or any country that aids or participates in this senseless Civil War...bring our money back home and let them deal with their issues...stand with our allies in the region, set up protections/defenses for them and ride out the storm...period!
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Make no mistake, this is NOT a "little problem". We are likely going to have to fight these people to defend our Nation and way of life. That time has not yet come. IF it does we are going to have to go all out. The things that are going on are not isolated problems. They are part of a much larger plan, and sooner or later we will likely have to get involved. Syria is neither the time or the place.
Getting involved is one thing, but advocating a nuclear strike is foolish and irresponsible. IMHO, of course.
letzrockexpress
Veteran Expediter
I don't believe I mentioned nukes.
Wasn't you. See post 23.
How is either side in this concerned with humanitarian issues? They care nothing about one another.This is a civil war, and is in no war our concern. It is not unlike any other civil war in history, people on all sides die and only the only "winner" are the casket makers. We cannot end it and should not try.
piattteam
Active Expediter
My thoughts too!
moose
Veteran Expediter
Our President set a very novel goal, a one we should all back. he said that in our views, a use of mass killing by chemicals is un-human, inexcusable, and unacceptable.
now he should act on.
it's goe's to the core values of our way of life. we will not tolerate ANY mass killing by chemical weapon.
then there is the real threat to our own national security. if our President do not act on his promises, we will be view by our enemy's as weak. we must hold ground and protect the red line. we must- or any other red line will be crossed in the near future.
our President already have a long list of international affair he failed to correctly resolved. the Bengazi coverup for the stolen 380 advanced ground to air missiles, some of which made it's way to Syria, comes to mind. the ground to sea missiles Yakhnot recently supplied to Syria by Russia is another one. how can we expect to do anything anymore if we do not act when we should.
& don't count any of our allays off just yet. it was only a short week ago when: " Prime Minister David Cameron said: “This regime has huge stocks of chemical weapons. We know they have used them on at least 10 occasions prior to this last widescale use. They have both the motive and the opportunity.” " all we need is a real leader.
now he should act on.
it's goe's to the core values of our way of life. we will not tolerate ANY mass killing by chemical weapon.
then there is the real threat to our own national security. if our President do not act on his promises, we will be view by our enemy's as weak. we must hold ground and protect the red line. we must- or any other red line will be crossed in the near future.
our President already have a long list of international affair he failed to correctly resolved. the Bengazi coverup for the stolen 380 advanced ground to air missiles, some of which made it's way to Syria, comes to mind. the ground to sea missiles Yakhnot recently supplied to Syria by Russia is another one. how can we expect to do anything anymore if we do not act when we should.
& don't count any of our allays off just yet. it was only a short week ago when: " Prime Minister David Cameron said: “This regime has huge stocks of chemical weapons. We know they have used them on at least 10 occasions prior to this last widescale use. They have both the motive and the opportunity.” " all we need is a real leader.
I don't believe for one second that our "president" gives a flip whether WMD's are used are not. I believe he wants into Syria, one, to draw attention away from his problems/agendas here at home and secondly, to advance the goals of one side of this conflict over the other. He likely would not say a THING if the "other side" was using WMD's.
IF we are going to go in we must prepared for what may happen, a greatly expanded war in the Middle East. It could reach a point where we are going to have to fight an all out war, with one goal in place, winning it. I don't see this president doing that. I don't believe that we have the national will for it and anything less would be a waste of American lives. We cannot handle another prolonged, limited, conflict. IF the time comes to fight, it will be time to take off the gloves and have at it. The rules of engagement must be simple, kill the enemy untill either they quit or there are none left to kill.
IF we are going to go in we must prepared for what may happen, a greatly expanded war in the Middle East. It could reach a point where we are going to have to fight an all out war, with one goal in place, winning it. I don't see this president doing that. I don't believe that we have the national will for it and anything less would be a waste of American lives. We cannot handle another prolonged, limited, conflict. IF the time comes to fight, it will be time to take off the gloves and have at it. The rules of engagement must be simple, kill the enemy untill either they quit or there are none left to kill.
purgoose10
Veteran Expediter
I think the missile strike should hit Washington then start over. At the minimum hit the golf course, at least we'll get rid of him.
Hit Washington? He has been dead for a VERY long time!
WHAT! When did that happen? He was a favorite of mine!
WHAT! When did that happen? He was a favorite of mine!
Wrong Washington. The one pictured about is a friend of veterans.
AMonger
Veteran Expediter
If that's your position, volunteer. Not for the American military, but with any other private citizens or anyone else in the world who wants to go there and fight for al Qaeda. Arrange your own transport and supply your own arms.
Leave the American military out of it. Separating Alien & Predator isn't worth one drop of American blood. Not one drop. The only thing we should do is seal the borders until it's over.