NJ Gov Christie to be probed.
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Yeah, it lends credence to a petty vindictiveness to a power-wielding aid, but not to Christie himself. Your own conclusion as stated above puts everything on Christie's aids, not him. And considering the history of New jersey politics, where high ranking underlings often take matter into their own hands, particularly when dealing with New York (New Jersey/New York - Hatfields/McCoys, same thing), it isn't surprising at all that not one of these thousands of e-mails even hint at Christie being involved or even having any knowledge of any of it. Even the petty vindictiveness of an immediately fired Bridget Kelly didn't prompt a CYA posture for her to implicate Christie.
Governor Christie may very well have been involved in these decisions, but I'd rather wait and draw such a conclusion based on actual evidence rather than on my own hopes, dreams and wishes.
The sad part is the meetings and such probably isn't out of the norm. Those boys do a lot of back scratching.
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Not disputing the backscratching, but these meetings were supposed to be along the lines of a 'welcome wagon' to a new mayor, to familiarize him with the departments and programs he might expect to be working with. But as soon as he declined to endorse Christie, the meetings were cancelled, and not rescheduled.
Christie has a rep for being very 'hands on' - he likes to know the details of everything, and if he didn't know what his closest aides were doing, what does that say about his judgement in choosing whom to trust?
I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans spilled the beans on this one, they're still mad at Christie for [gasp!] giving credit to Obama during the Sandy emergency.
It wasn't merely Christie giving 'credit' to Obama for the Sandy Relief. A few nice words and a thank you was sufficient.but he was overlly emotional and over the top gushing toward him for doing something he was suppose to do as a government employee. I mean, it was a slobbering love affair on the beach and they should have got a room. As disturbing that image may be. At the same time dissing Romney publicly and unnecessarily. The Sandy response was a deciding factor with 15 percent of voters. For many conservatives and tea party folks, Christie is done. Not wishing that he was involved in the Bridge scandal, but if he was, I hope he definitely gets caught and have a little political karma come his way.
Many believe he did play politics during that time. Most would understand a few kind words, but he was over the top and at the same time overly upset and irrational publicly about Romney. Of course the MSM lopped up the contrasting images of a fawning over Obama and a PUBLIC dissing of Romney and played it night and day.
Tennesseahawk
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Instead, he sucked up to the federal government for blood money. Yeah, no wonder he got reelected to a state like Joisey.
"A few nice words and a thank you" is sufficient for a small thing, but neither Hurricane Sandy nor Obama's quick response was a small thing. [Romney wanted to eliminate FEMA!]
As for the "overly emotional" behavior, death and destruction tend to make people act like that - at least, in the immediate aftermath. Especially people like the Governor of a state that's just been trashed by a hurricane, and nobody ever accused Christie of not caring about the people of NJ.
That episode was a factor for me too: I appreciated seeing a politician put politics aside to do what he thought best for the people he represents. THAT'S what I expect from a leader.
Interestingly, the Democratic mayor of Morristown, NJ, did the same thing: Tim Dougherty had nothing but praise for Christie's handling of the disaster, and it didn't hurt his standing among the Dems at all.
There should be NO 'sides' in a disaster.
Tennesseahawk
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Ahh, but who said to never let a crisis go to waste? There are ALWAYS politics to be played in a disaster. But you're right... there shouldn't be. And there shouldn't be a FEMA either.
FEMA is a mess with how it is ran. Been that way for years. Look at Katrina and the latest Sandy disaster. Still a mess, but I think you still need a agency to help when disasters strike.
A person by themselves isn't going to jump in and suddenly rebuild the infrastructure after a storm.
A person by themselves isn't going to jump in and suddenly rebuild the infrastructure after a storm.
What bugs me about the people who have nothing but complaints & rants re: government agencies/programs/whatever is that they never acknowledge that the programs exist for a very good reason. And they never have any reasonable suggestions for a replacement, either.
I'm not saying the government is doing a good job, but that we should try to focus on how it could be done better than it is.
I'm not saying the government is doing a good job, but that we should try to focus on how it could be done better than it is.
There is a good reason to have FEMA as I mentioned, but there is no question it is run poorly.
It would be more effective if they took the politics out of it and cut some of the red tape that isn't necessary. Most of it is duplication that is nothing but a costly time waster.
Tennesseahawk
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So, what should we have instead of FEMA?
States doing the job that the federal government was never meant to do.
Tennesseahawk
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The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
That would be the preferred way, but most states no longer have the financial resources to handle a major disaster. Since they can't print money like the Fed, they are tapped out.
Its ok for him to be emotional. That is not what I was referring to. He was over the top snippy with the mere question of a presidential candidate surveying the disaster area with him. He could have handled it more politely and discreetly instead of making an emotional 'speech' about it. Again the MSM(cheerleaders for Obama) took that dust up and played it over and over again. To many tea party and conservatives, Christie is persona non grata for at the very least acting like a political dimwit ,throwing Romney under the bus publicly, and reckiing any chance to oust the worst president this country has ever seen.
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
What did people/states do BEFORE the feds started nursing them?
Something about putting away for a rainy day.