Actually Turtle I've found same sex unions and marriages were happening in Ancient Egypt and Africa....
I never said there weren't. There have pretty much always been exceptions. There are today, even in the state where same-sex marriage is not an option. I've been to some of the agenda-ized Web sites where they scour through history looking for example after example of same-sex marriage, trying to bolster their claim that it's been accepted in the past. But I also know that a whole snotload of those "marriages" were nothing more than legal contracts and living wills, as it were, and anything found in the history that is remotely close to a union automatically classified as a marriage on those sites.
Marriage has and will continue to be redefined,
No, it's not. You keep saying that, the same thing over and over, almost as if you think that if you say it enough times that I or someone will start to believe it. That's certainly a tried and true tactic right out of the Christian playbook, as well as the Gay Agenda Manual, but it doesn't change the reality. Marriage is and always has been defined as I've already shown it to be defined, as a union of a man and a woman primarily for procreation, but also with legal implications and responsibilities. The fact that there have been exceptions to marriage doesn't in any way change the definition of marriage.
Fortunately, asjssl has given us the new and improved definition of marriage, that of being the union of "2 warm blooded Americans who love and care for each other." The whole notion of procreation and propagation of the species is now completely removed from the definition in any context. The fact that same-sex couple cannot reproduce is noteworthy in that context, I'd think. Sure seems like a redefining of something to fit the wants, needs and desires of someone with a special interest in the thing, rather than to redefine it to encompass the real, actual basis of marriage. Sure, straight couples who get married often love and care for one another, but that's never been the primary purpose of marriage. There are a lot of couples today who get married for a plethora of reasons other than love. But they can't do that anymore if we accept this new definition. Interesting, indeed.
you can claim it's all about a temper tantrum all you want but fact is it was acceptable in the past,
You keep saying that over and over again, but it's still not true. It has been accepted, rarely, in a few cultures for a limited time, but same-sex marriage has never been widely accepted by mankind in any applicable correlation that the gay community now wants it to be accepted. Even today in countries that have full-on same-sex marriages, it's barely tolerated by the masses. It's hardly accepted. The fact is, the percentage of the population which is homosexual is incredibly small, especially when you consider all the attention they are getting (thanks to pushing their views onto others via the courts). Thanks to the hype, publicity, and temper tantrums, most US adult overestimate the homosexual population by as much as 10 times. A Gallup poll done last year revealed that US adults think the gay population is about 25 percent, meaning they think one out of every four people in America is gay. It also doesn't help when the gay community exaggerates their numbers in order to garner credibility.
Yet, every credible survey and study indicates between 2 and 4 percent, and most of those studies state that their estimates are probably on the high end. It doesn't matter the issue is, when only 2-4 percent of the population want it, and the other 96-98 percent don't want it, whatever the 2-4 percent want will never be embraced and accepted by everybody else. It might be tolerated, to a point, but that's about it. So don't kid yourself if you think same-sex marriage was accepted in the past. It wasn't. It was tolerated, to a point, and then it wasn't tolerated anymore. History is just the same thing happening over and over again, with only the participants changing through it.
as religion changed that mainly the Christian church but Abrahamic religions in general might be more all encompassing.
Religion changed the mechanics of marriage, in order to fit the religion, but it didn't change the acceptance of it. There are some people here who will take great issue with this, but the reason the Bible says it's an abomination is because the people of the time thought so, just like most people have always thought so, and if they could convince people that God said those words, well there ya go. It's the same reason why God said don't eat pork, because people wrote it that way, in order to prevent the masses from dying of trichinosis (even though they didn't have a clue what trichinosis was). If the leaders said don't eat pork, people would have still eaten pork, but if God said it, well there ya go. Who's gonna defy God?
My argument against Gay marriage is not a religious one, A) because I'm not religious, and B) because any argument based on a belief, especially a religious doctrinal belief, will always fall short (no matter how vehemently they believe or argue it). The only way you can win a belief argument is if the one you are arguing with also has the same belief. That's also why the gay community wants the M-word, because it goes directly against that belief system. They want to win.
And since one of the fastest growing segments in America are those who are classifying themselves as either non religious or as other (agnostic, pagan, new age, etc) I would bet money that it will redefined to include same sex couples.
It may very well be, but it will done over the objections of society at large, and it will never be fully accepted by heterosexuals, regardless of the religious faith status. It will be, as homosexuals are not, grudgingly tolerated, but never accepted as perfectly fine and normal. Like I said, you don't have to have ever read a Bible to know that homosexuality is wrong.
Personally I think it's about time and I will quite happy when my friends and family who are LGBT can marry whoever they want!
You know what they say - be careful what you wish for. There are always unintended consequences with forced social issues. Always.
