"Moving day"???

[xiggi]

I'm over people telling others what to do, who to marry where to walk and talk, I'm done trying to figure out why the Christian moral majority wishes to be dictator to the masses...

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Glad to hear your done with those in the gay community who tell us everyone must except them including teaching it at an early age in our schools.

Im glad your done with those who say We must accept global warming as man made.

Im glad your done with those who say We must take Christ out of Christmas.

Im glad your done with those who say We must hire minorities even though they are less qualified than the next person.

Im glad you are open minded and demand all special inerect groups stop demanding regardless what group they are.

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[paullud]

But what about us that dont believe in god....see now people are pushing there religion on others because they think its correct...i dont feel or believe that way....i do not believe for a second..WHAM all of sudden here stands 1 man..1 woman..now go make more people..so i guess my view on marriage would be different..

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It's pretty simple, if you don't believe then leave those who do alone. Stop trying to act like you are a victim because religious people want to stop you from hijacking their ceremonies.

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[asjssl]

It's pretty simple, if you don't believe then leave those who do alone. Stop trying to act like you are a victim because religious people want to stop you from hijacking their ceremonies.

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Im no victim...just want what's right...and equal..sorry for standing up against discrimination...

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[Tennesseahawk]

There are some things society will grant, some things society won't. It's really that simple.

It is that simple, yes. But as we've seen, society changes.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Marriage started out about power and consolidating that power and yes procreation...but in ancient times it was not strictly religious and it most definitely wasn't about love. The Christian church is the one who pigeonholed marriage to narrow definition of who can get married and as they took over ceremonies became religious. It has not always been that way!!!

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When you're talking ancient, you're talking THOUSANDS of different cultures. To say it wasn't strictly religious could mean that 1% of cultures might have made it non-religious. I gave a list of major ones that were religious. On the other side, I found only the Egyptians and Buddhists (yeah... a religion that had a non-religious ceremony) that performed their weddings secular.

 

[paullud]

Im no victim...just want what's right...and equal..sorry for standing up against discrimination...

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Any single willing man can go marry any single willing woman. There is no clause that says either or both parties have to be straight so things are already equal. Where is the discrimination?

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[pandora2112]

It's pretty simple, if you don't believe then leave those who do alone. Stop trying to act like you are a victim because religious people want to stop you from hijacking their ceremonies.

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Christians are the biggest hijackers of ceremonies and holidays actually...maybe they should stop assuming it's their ceremony or their holiday.

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[cheri1122]

Of all the arguments/rationales for or against, "because we've always done it this way" ought to be the least powerful. Because millions of people can be [and have been] wrong. Many times, in fact. And very often because their religious leaders insist upon it.

 

[asjssl]

Any single willing man can go marry any single willing woman. There is no clause that says either or both parties have to be straight so things are already equal. Where is the discrimination?

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A woman can NOT marry another woman..discrimination

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[pandora2112]

When you're talking ancient, you're talking THOUSANDS of different cultures. To say it wasn't strictly religious could mean that 1% of cultures might have made it non-religious. I gave a list of major ones that were religious. On the other side, I found only the Egyptians and Buddhists (yeah... a religion that had a non-religious ceremony) that performed their weddings secular.

You included Romans and that's not correct....

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[asjssl]

Of all the arguments/rationales for or against, "because we've always done it this way" ought to be the least powerful. Because millions of people can be [and have been] wrong. Many times, in fact. And very often because their religious leaders insist upon it.

:thumbup:

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[pandora2112]

Anyone who is planning on moving out let me know. I'm interested in purchasing your expedite vehicle. It's going to be a great year in 13'

Go in halfies with ya?!?

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[spongebox]

Xiggi, your a pathetic closed minded excuse of a man, o you can quote me on that

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[pandora2112]

Im glad your done with those who say We must take Christ out of Christmas.


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Actually it would be nice to have MY holiday back....

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[davekc]

Always different opinions on this type of topic. No need to turn it into a personal name calling exercise when one differs.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Of all the arguments/rationales for or against, "because we've always done it this way" ought to be the least powerful. Because millions of people can be [and have been] wrong. Many times, in fact. And very often because their religious leaders insist upon it.

Very simple. If the definition is different than what it's meant since ancient times, then change the name to fit the definition.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

You included Romans and that's not correct....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marriage_in_ancient_Rome

The nuptiae was often begun with a celebration, combining legal, religious, and social features. It brings the two households together, new property is introduced, and there is the underlying promise of children. The wedding ceremony no doubt included various customs and religious rites, but it cannot be assumed such rituals were static or widespread throughout the centuries.

BAM!!!

 

[FlyingVan]

Xiggi, your a pathetic closed minded excuse of a man, o you can quote me on that

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Like all people of your sorts, when you don't have anything to say, start the name calling. I've seen it before.

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[pandora2112]

In ancient Rome, marriage was a civil affair governed by imperial law. But when the empire collapsed, in the 5th century, church courts took over and elevated marriage to a holy union. As the church's power grew through the Middle Ages, so did its influence over marriage. In 1215, marriage was declared one of the church's seven sacraments, alongside rites like baptism and penance. But it was only in the 16th century that the church decreed that weddings be performed in public, by a priest, and before witnesses.



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Said it before saying it again...

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[Tennesseahawk]

Said it before saying it again...

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It wasn't imperial law until Augustus took it over, and made it civil. In ANCIENT Rome, it was a religious ceremony.