More Americans renouncing U.S.citizenship

xiggi

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I have fantasies that will never happen too but they involve Sandra Bullock. :rolleyes:

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layoutshooter

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History shows ALL great empires come to an end......U.S and Canada will be no different...just a matter of how it will happen and when....


Yep, be I will go down fighting. No kings or dictators for me. I KNOW there are LOT of Canadians in the Yukon and places out that way who are getting fed up with their federal government. There is talk about joining with Alaska and some western states and forming a NEW country.

Time will tell. WAY too much going on. U.S. troops in increasing numbers in Africa and Georgia. Talk of action in Syria. FAR too many things that this "Peace Prize" winner is getting us involved in.
 

scottm4211

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A (relatively) huge percentage of people in the north are on some form of govt assistance. They ain't goin' nowhere.
 

layoutshooter

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A (relatively) huge percentage of people in the north are on some form of govt assistance. They ain't goin' nowhere.

Kinda sad, eh? Can't get away from their "Sugar Daddy (mommy)" Must suck to be a 'kept person'. That would make me puke.
 

OntarioVanMan

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A (relatively) huge percentage of people in the north are on some form of govt assistance. They ain't goin' nowhere.
way back in what seems another time frame...they used to be a strong and independent people....live off the land, hunt, fish, trade, barter....then this monster called a government started handing out cash.....
 

layoutshooter

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way back in what seems another time frame...they used to be a strong and independent people....live off the land, hunt, fish, trade, barter....then this monster called a government started handing out cash.....

They became "Pop Corn" ducks. Fed up, fattened and easy to kill. That is what happens to 'kept people'.
 

AMonger

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"I wonder how many Jews in Germany were anguished over missed opportunities to leave."


Many of the Jewish people have learned to fight back. That is EXACTLY what they SHOULD have done in Germany. Too bad so many that live here are supporting many of the same type of politicians that went after them in Germany.

Leaving does not work, only fighting back does. There is no where left to run.

Same goes for everyone who believes in freedom. Hitler and Stalin did not ONLY kill Jewish people. They killed anyone who stood up to them. They are able to win because few had the courage to stand up.

We see the same thing happening here. SO many fall for the 'health care' and 'gun control' garbage. They BELIEVE that government is looking out for them. They either never took a history class, slept through it or flunked it.

It's funny you should state it that way, because that's my point on another topic we've been discussing: the nexus of freedom, safety, and HOS. Many believe the gummint is looking out for them and willingly waive not only their rights, but everyone else's.

You're right about there being nowhere left to run for freedom.
 

layoutshooter

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It's funny you should state it that way, because that's my point on another topic we've been discussing: the nexus of freedom, safety, and HOS. Many believe the gummint is looking out for them and willingly waive not only their rights, but everyone else's.

You're right about there being nowhere left to run for freedom.

Government controls for the sake of control. They are not interested in the well being of those they control.
 

AMonger

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Yep, be I will go down fighting. No kings or dictators for me. I KNOW there are LOT of Canadians in the Yukon and places out that way who are getting fed up with their federal government. There is talk about joining with Alaska and some western states and forming a NEW country.

Time will tell. WAY too much going on. U.S. troops in increasing numbers in Africa and Georgia. Talk of action in Syria. FAR too many things that this "Peace Prize" winner is getting us involved in.

Alaska's essentially indefensible. At the former Shemya Air Base in Alaska, Air Force personnel underwent extra training with M-16s just in case the Bear decided to make a move, but they knew they wouldn't amount to even a speed bump. If parts of America secede, taking Alaska with them, there wouldn't be enough military might to defend it. Russia would want all that oil. If the seceded part of America didn't have control of nukes and couldn't convince the Russians they'd use them...
 

layoutshooter

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Alaska's essentially indefensible. At the former Shemya Air Base in Alaska, Air Force personnel underwent extra training with M-16s just in case the Bear decided to make a move, but they knew they wouldn't amount to even a speed bump. If parts of America secede, taking Alaska with them, there wouldn't be enough military might to defend it. Russia would want all that oil. If the seceded part of America didn't have control of nukes and couldn't convince the Russians they'd use them...


Shemya, is not like the rest of Alaska. It is a barren rock in the Bering Sea. It is tiny. No one could defend it. I know MANY who were stationed there. I had very close dealings with those who worked there and their mission. I missed that posting by one person. The guy before me went there, I went to Japan.

The mainland of Alaska can be defended. Against superior forces. It is vast. Germany learned what happens when one assumes that a country cannot be defended when they attacked Russia.
 
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aristotle

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Alaska's essentially indefensible. At the former Shemya Air Base in Alaska, Air Force personnel underwent extra training with M-16s just in case the Bear decided to make a move, but they knew they wouldn't amount to even a speed bump. If parts of America secede, taking Alaska with them, there wouldn't be enough military might to defend it. Russia would want all that oil. If the seceded part of America didn't have control of nukes and couldn't convince the Russians they'd use them...

The United States has thousands of nuclear weapons available by land, air and sea at all times. Our nuclear capable submarines alone could destroy enemy nations many times over. If the US was militarily vulnerable in any way, those vulnerabilities would have been exploited long ago.
 
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