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There are anecdotal exception to everything. Everything.
If you are referring to me, you're dead wrong. These aren't observations from afar or anything else of that nature. They are first hand experiences of things I've witnessed. These are people I know, friends, and some relatives. These are issues which have been discussed at length over many years.
You want a battle of anecdotals? I could start with my own, that of my parents, one that I lived up close and personal. They were married a really long time, long enough that you might even label it a success. And you'd be wrong. And I wouldn't use a single book to tell you all about it.
That's not an answer, it's a deflection.
You're a grown man and are entitled to believe whatever you want. The truth is easily obtainable, however.
That's because it's out of your own personal experience and you cannot fathom it unless you've experienced it. In the realm of Southern Christianity, it is, absolutely, the norm, because the Bible demands it.
Well, the Bible, and their parents and preachers for their whole lives, tells them they are right. You can be right about anything, as long as you have the Bible to back you up on it. And in this case, there's a lot in there to back it up. One mention in the Bible would be enough, but this one is driven home time and time again. So, it's really important.
You're preaching to the choir, Brother!
You reap what you sow. Women wanted liberation and equality, now they have it.
Jamin_Joe
Seasoned Expediter
The otherside of the coin...
What about nonChristian men that mistreat thier wifes and girlfriends?
Why single out Country Folks? I know lots of Country folks that are very kind people that have class.
Yes class doesn't just have to do with money. Yes my parents were afluent and taught us how to act around afluent people....Little secreat, lots of offspring from affluent people end up being Bums, yes Bums, in that they dont do for themselves and live off of Daddies or Mommies money. Ive known some that got disability, though they can work, and have their trust funds under someone elses name. Talk about leaches.
What about nonChristian men that mistreat thier wifes and girlfriends?
Why single out Country Folks? I know lots of Country folks that are very kind people that have class.
Yes class doesn't just have to do with money. Yes my parents were afluent and taught us how to act around afluent people....Little secreat, lots of offspring from affluent people end up being Bums, yes Bums, in that they dont do for themselves and live off of Daddies or Mommies money. Ive known some that got disability, though they can work, and have their trust funds under someone elses name. Talk about leaches.
This thread _ IS _ the other side of the coin.
Non-Christian? You mean like Muslims?
Why single our Muslims? I know lots of Muslims that are very kind people that have class.
That's kind of the point of this thread, to show that pointing out the exception to the rule shouldn't be used as a broad, ignorant brush to paint entire groups of people in a negative manner. We've had recent posts where Muslims were painted in such a manner, but it was intentionally narrow in scope and geography, but it was done in such a way as to associate the very narrow exceptions to the rule so as to apply to the majority. This thread does the same, exact thing, as a method of absurdity to illustrate absurdity.
We have EO members glad to besmirch an entire region of the United States as wife-beaters??? Now, that is low class. Very low.
People all over this country read EO. Including shippers, receivers, freight brokers, load planners, dispatchers, owner-operators, even CEO's of corporations shipping expedited freight. If I were a Southern male reading this scandalous BS, I would be outraged. I would notice a well known EO representative whose every post carries the Load-1 banner is leading the charge to denigrate the South and Appalachia. Certainly, EO nor Load-1 would want to associate themselves with this outrageous condemnation of the American South. The South is an industrial powerhouse shipping enormous amounts of freight. After reading such bigoted garbage, a Southern shipper might rightly conclude that his freight would be just as well served by a Southern expedite company, leaving the phones to ring less often with good loads for the arrogant North. A silent boycott.
It is vitally important to know who your audience is when speaking or posting in a public forum. Speaking scandalously against one's countrymen is bad for business. The South is still part of this nation and they ship ALOT of freight. Arrogance often leads otherwise smart men to say really stupid things. An apology to the South is absolutely in order.
People all over this country read EO. Including shippers, receivers, freight brokers, load planners, dispatchers, owner-operators, even CEO's of corporations shipping expedited freight. If I were a Southern male reading this scandalous BS, I would be outraged. I would notice a well known EO representative whose every post carries the Load-1 banner is leading the charge to denigrate the South and Appalachia. Certainly, EO nor Load-1 would want to associate themselves with this outrageous condemnation of the American South. The South is an industrial powerhouse shipping enormous amounts of freight. After reading such bigoted garbage, a Southern shipper might rightly conclude that his freight would be just as well served by a Southern expedite company, leaving the phones to ring less often with good loads for the arrogant North. A silent boycott.
It is vitally important to know who your audience is when speaking or posting in a public forum. Speaking scandalously against one's countrymen is bad for business. The South is still part of this nation and they ship ALOT of freight. Arrogance often leads otherwise smart men to say really stupid things. An apology to the South is absolutely in order.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
It may well be funny to you - but it ain't anywhere near as funny as your ignoring and avoidance of answering the question I posed to you about how many women conducted the Mass when you were attending Catholic church ...
At least she answered up - and seemingly in an honest manner.
As was pointed out earlier, Christians do continue to exist once their butts rise off the pew and they exit the building ...
One does not necessarily have to go to church every Sunday to observe them in action ... in fact, it might be said that one is much more likely to get a more accurate picture outside of church, where they aren't necessarily always on their best behavior for appearances sake ...
If your assertion is that gender discrimination and ill-treatment doesn't exist simply because it is not always present in all cases or instances, I think you are on fairly shaky ground ...
Not in all cases.
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RLENT
Veteran Expediter
LOL ... desperation much ?
You're not making sense. To have Jabbar as an example of class is laughable.
Read Showtime Magic - Jeff Pearlman online - PigsToe.com
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Straw man much ?
Tell me ... would what you describe above be in any way analogous to besmirching an entire religion - the second largest one in the world ?
LOL ... uhm ... it sounds like you actually are ... on all counts ...
Avoiding the sharp shards of the falling, broken glass would probably be a wise idea ... assuming one wished to avoid being shredded into a oozing pile of hamburger ...
Go away, troll.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Unresponsive to the question posed, decidedly unfriendly (due to the name-calling) ... as well as highly amusing - in light of the post I was replying to ...
From "you can't insult us, we have character & thick skin" to "you owe us an apology" in 84 posts, lol.
FWIW: all the references to wife beating & physical abuse are missing the mark - it's not what I meant at all. That happens everywhere, and no one condones it [at least in public] any longer. The repression I meant [and I was very clear about it, so I don't know why y'all are even talking about wife beating] is that the final authority is always the man's. You can treat a woman with respect, but the bottom line is that MEN hold the ultimate power, and we all know it.
And this is how you reply to a question you apparently don't want to answer? Because you did besmirch an entire religion, you know, and I doubt you would remain silent while anyone besmirched yours.
The "troll" comment was out of line, and not even close to the truth.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Heheheh ... good eye .... but don't forget the outrage ...
Perhaps timely:
Jill Abramson, Arthur Sulzberger, and the New York Times: What Went Wrong? : The New Yorker
Whooped de do, so there isn't any female priests. That example doesn't mean women are sub servant .
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
Well, it certainly does mean that they've have been excluded from ordination into the priesthood ...
But it wasn't always like that ...
BTW - the word is subservient ... you might want to look it up and explore the various definitions of it ... and expand your mind ...