The Kentuckians I know treat women well. But, that doesn't fit the narrative of a thread designed to disparage Appalachia.
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The Kentuckians I know treat women well. But, that doesn't fit the narrative of a thread designed to disparage Appalachia.
Just traveling around KY and TN, I don't see it either. Nobody would. But when you are immersed in it and deal with large numbers of people on a daily basis it becomes shockingly clear. I saw it when I managed restaurants and had 50, 60 people on payroll. You get to know these people on a personal level and learn what their lives are like. I discussed it with many of them, specifically discussing how women up north wouldn't put up with nearly as much. Not being raised in that I found it a little shocking at just how much these women put up with. At first I thought it simply a North /South thing, but when you hear time and time again that they put up with it because of their faith, it gets harder to dismiss it. Later, when I worked in the church directory division of Olan Mills and was in a church of one denomination or another, I could to see it even more clearly, despite it being more subtle and clearly attempted to be hidden behind the facade.
No, it's not the same level of abuse or barbarianism you find in strict sharia law. But now we're just talking about different levels of it.
No, it's not the same level of abuse or barbarianism you find in strict sharia law. But now we're just talking about different levels of it.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
There is simply no comparison to be made regarding women living under government sanctioned Sharia and domestic relationships in the United States. Men and women all over the world may quarrel, but sharia's legal code and system of punishment are not comparable in any way to American life.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
That (accurate, in this instance) observation is at least somewhat reassuring ...
As did Christian and Jewish courts at one time ...
The inaction by police says otherwise ...
Sharia is about 2000 years out of step with modernity in many regards.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
As a blanket statement that is inaccurate, because it broad-brushes sharia, and seeks to define sharia solely by some extreme interpretations/implementations ... which are relatively rare ...
The actions of doing so either speaks to 1. ignorance or 2. motivation ... take your pick ...
You might as well say Jewish halacha - religious law - is 2000+ years out of step with modernity ...
Probably a good thing the practice of the extreme aspects of both are relatively rare.
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
As an additional example of one or more of the manifestations of cognitive dissonance, I'll repost the following - which was ignored and not responded to thus far.
Watch for and note what you see in response ... or what you don't ...
By the way, I note and point out here that the alternative forms barbarity that I note and point out above are largely "state-sanctioned" ...
Watch for and note what you see in response ... or what you don't ...
By the way, I note and point out here that the alternative forms barbarity that I note and point out above are largely "state-sanctioned" ...
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Jamin_Joe
Seasoned Expediter
There are too many people that misinterpret Biblical law.
The Bible is very clear on how to treat others and mandates for men to treat their wives with respect.
Here in my opinion is the real issue.
The extreme people that twist the word of God to serve their selfish needs get the most attention in stead of the true Believers.
The Bible is very clear that Christians should be living examples of Christs love and to treat others as you want to be treated. The basis of Christianity is that human nature is evil, based on selfish needs, and with God being holy and just Christ had to come to pay the price of that by taking the sins on himself. Since he did not commit any sin, he was not guilty and rose from the dead. He paid the price for anyone that would accept that precious gift. In return we must believe, serve God, and treat others with love and compassion.
Real Christain brothers and sisters are nonjudgemental and do whatever they can to help others in anyway that they can. They likr to keep their charity donations in secreat, since they donot do it for show. They are compassionate and have a genuine love for people with no selfish motives.
Of course we are far from perfect.
It is not right to group others as being bad due to those that deminstate bad behavior. Due to race, creed or national origin.
You mean women up north, well outside of the Bible Belt, where they don't put up with it and will report it? Not really sure how that applies, especially since I'm not even talking about the sexual violence of which those numbers are comprised. I'm talking about the full range of abuse from physical to mental to verbal which make up the role of subservience, and "know your place, woman!"
And there you have it.As for this Christian husband, I don't want a slave for a wife; I want an executive officer, a first mate. Someone who respects my role as captain, but who is fully capable of command when she needs to assert it
I wonder, how many who seek to dispense advice on marriage, relationships etc, are themselves successful at it? If they are not, should they be critical of others?
Look at it this way. If I want to learn how to run a boat, I go to someone who is proficient at running boats. Someone with experience running boats. I would NOT go to someone who has lived their entire life in the desert, who was proficient in riding horses but has read a book about running a boat. (or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night)
Same for marriage. I would go to people with successful long term marriages for advice. If I wanted to learn how NOT to have a successful marriage I would talk to those who have failed.
Look at it this way. If I want to learn how to run a boat, I go to someone who is proficient at running boats. Someone with experience running boats. I would NOT go to someone who has lived their entire life in the desert, who was proficient in riding horses but has read a book about running a boat. (or stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night)
Same for marriage. I would go to people with successful long term marriages for advice. If I wanted to learn how NOT to have a successful marriage I would talk to those who have failed.
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As for this Christian husband, I don't want a slave for a wife; I want an executive officer, a first mate. Someone who respects my role as captain, but who is fully capable of command when she needs to assert it
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And there you have it - straight from the Christian family man living in PA. But assuming his wife is comfortable with their relationship, where's the abuse
Notice also a glaring fact in this report: those responsible for this barbaric activity have been charged with murder in accordance with their Christian based legal system. This crime was also widely condemned by the people. Compare this with Sharia law that condones torture and murder, and is generally accepted by Muslim populations. Quoting from the article (emphasis mine):
Amazing that some people still don't see this blinding glimpse of the obvious.
Assuming Muslim women are comfortable wearing face and head coverings, and being subservient to men under sharia, where is the abuse?And there you have it - straight from the Christian family man living in PA. But assuming his wife is comfortable with their relationship, where's the abuse
Most religions are more about control than anything, and not unlike slavery, if you can convince people their chains are jewelry, you've got a good start on control. If you can convince women to be subservient to men as a matter of obeying their faith, there ya go.
Even more amazing is how many people think all Muslims live under the barbaric form of sharia law, and that sharia law is widely in place in Muslim countries.
Fundamentalist wacko Christians don't represent the majority of Christians any more than fundamentalist wacko Muslims represent the majority of Muslims.