inkasnana said:
It just really irritates the heck out of me when people are so adamant about believing hearsay, rumor and gossip that they can't accept any other explanation. That in itself is childish behavior.
I completely agree, and wanted to add a few of my own ponderings, even tho long-winded, sorry..
i) During what I have seen/heard in my lifetime, I believe that if authorities seek damaging evidence thoroughly enough, they're going to find
something,
anything, that can be used to support their preconceived belief, and make it fit.. and yet.. these authorities (and did you actually read how MANY officers were involved in this quest??) were not able to find any corroborating evidence or witnesses; to me, this is saying a LOT.
ii)
aristotle said:
Equally contemptible are the starstruck parents who offered up their young children for Jackson's enjoyment.... Their children's bodies and souls were the price of admission.
Unless these parents had every reason to believe these activities were purely innocent, they would NOT have allowed their children to participate; sadly the family in question had parents, or at least a dad, who was just the type of leech who saw it as an incredible opportunity to cash in BIGTIME by making false and unprovable accusations.
I believe the accuser's soul was offered up by his own father for the smell of money. That boy's innocence is forever gone, by being coached by his dad on what to say, and having to learn that these things even exist. I do think it will be interesting to see if that boy ever comes forward with the truth, rather than who will come forward with more lies now that MJ cannot defend himself.
Recently my youngest boy was asked to a school friend's birthday sleepover outside in a tent; I didn't know the family, so I did my due diligence, made an enquiry to another respected parent whose child was also attending, and also called the mom of the party boy; she informed me that her husband, the father, would also be sleeping in the tent with the party boys. Altho I had a pang of discomfort when she said this, I had to give myself a kick, realizing the simple pleasures of childhood are now spoiled by the likes of a very few men.
Society has brought us between a rock and a hard place, because if the father does NOT sleep out there with the boys, the boys are not being supervised/looked after, and if anything were to happen, like one of them sleepwalking in the night and getting killed by a car (just happened a few days ago), or a wild animal ravaging them in the tent, or maybe there is a pond or pool to fall into on a trip into the house to the bathroom, that would be considered unacceptable risk, the family would be sued, their lives would be ruined; and conversely, if the father DOES sleep out there with the boys, the other parents naturally have fleeting thoughts of .. what iffffff.. life is just plain ridiculous nowadays.
iii) As a person who has had the opportunity to receive even just minimal training on how to protect oneself from potential liability risk arising from potential child or parental accusations, even tho they're false, I can say that it is a sad state of affairs. I was shocked, honestly, to learn of the things that go on, the things that can be, and are, said, the things that can happen as a result, and the things innocent people must now think about in order to protect themselves from scavengers with a motive. Hard to believe that MJ would not have been trained in risk management of this sort, but considering his childlike nature and mindset, perhaps it is not that hard to believe. When you are not the kind of person to think in the money-hungry ways some of these low-lifes think, it is hard to imagine, and quite faith-shattering to learn about. And there is no doubt MJ was completely shattered by that whole experience. Contrary to Aristotle's statement,
It is my OPINION that Michael Jackson died indirectly from guilt.
It is my opinion that MJ died indirectly from the toll this whole accusation spectacle took on him emotionally, because he was
not guilty, and the allegations being made were so abhorrent to him.
I can imagine all these 'sleepovers' being like a boy's best days of his life, an event to remember forever.. wild pyjama parties with all the perks of childhood imaginable. Pillowfights, junkfood, movies, animals, rides, toys, games, other kids to play with.. wow! In my mind, MJ was able to create and live out the best parts of the childhood he never had, while also sharing it with other kids who may have also been less than privileged in their childhoods for one reason or another. Sure it was inappropriate to 'us', but I believe he was as a child. Has anyone here ever heard of that theory where humans are unable to move past a certain emotional maturity level until the previous level has been experienced? (ie Maslow's Hierarchy/ ERG Theory/et al)
iv) Perhaps it is against our principles to just pay someone off to get out of your life, rather than go through a long and expensive proving-of-truth, but that is exactly what is recommended sometimes, due to the alternative stress, damage to reputation by being prolonged in the news, etc. We would all hope that in the same situation we would have the strength, money, and time to follow it through indefinitely, but until we are actually IN that situation, how can we judge? One thing for sure though, it is not an indication of guilt.
rlent said:
BTW, I do agree with you that the truth about him is elusive ..... we will never really know ... the only ones that will, are those that were there ....
And really, when you think about THAT, if there were hundreds of boys
there, as there reportedly were over time, and each of those boys' families had not only the opportunity to discover their child had been abused, if they hadn't already known, but to also get revenge, AND to become wealthy doing so, don't y'all think ALL, or at least MANY would have come out of the woodwork at that point, rather than NONE? C'mon now, really? Although the money-sucker method employed by the accuser's family might be disgusting to 'normal' people, it certainly isn't above the morals of most people to pursue a lawsuit when they have in fact been horribly wronged, especially with the stakes being their children, and the opportunity presented on a platter in front of them.
aristotle said:
I wish Jackson could have been proven decisively innocent. But, the "truth" surrounding him is too inflammatory, too emotionally driven and too murky. It is my opinion Mr. Jackson harmed many young boys.
After those kinds of allegations, accusations, media hype, and length of time in the news, I don't believe that would
ever be possible, no matter how certainly he was able to prove it. That is why that
'innocent until proven guilty' thing is so important.
Is anyone familiar with the saying.. 'There, but for the grace of God, go I'? C'mon people, do you really need to have a horrible allegation made against you personally, and to experience first-hand, the impossibility of living it down, before you comprehend the problem here? As a couple here have mentioned, whether you liked him or not, there is more to this issue than MJ himself.
