How Long Before This Happens Here.....

clcooper

Expert Expediter
I dont have to get a minimum wage job!!!!!!I was responsible enough to look ahead in life and make the choices that would ensure that I have more then one set of skills in order to get through life with out haveing to take that 7.35 an hour job.
That being said if it came to that I would have no problem working that shovel if it kept me from becoming a burden on society.:D

yes you have a job for now .

what about the ones that lose their job because of no fault of theirs . so they are not responsible enough

how many minimum wage job are hiring today . then the 10 million people on unemployment just means that they all are just to lazy to work .

where would you be working that shovel if nobody is hiring . or any of your so called responsible choices of more then one set of skills.
if nobody is hiring you can have all the skills you want to have .you still wont have a job .
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
yes you have a job for now .

what about the ones that lose their job because of no fault of theirs . so they are not responsible enough

They lost their job and can go get another, some are better equipped than others.

how many minimum wage job are hiring today . then the 10 million people on unemployment just means that they all are just to lazy to work .

There are plenty of places that are hiring, people are to lazy or feel the work is beneath them.

where would you be working that shovel if nobody is hiring . or any of your so called responsible choices of more then one set of skills.
if nobody is hiring you can have all the skills you want to have .you still wont have a job .

There will still be plenty of entry level jobs available. Stop trying to convince yourself that people are unemployed for months because there is no job available, have you seen the number of truck driver ads? With unemployment now they get paid to go to school and get the training paid for, but again they feel it is beneath them or aren't willing to sacrifice. Check out the amount of places looking for drivers or any other type of worker in the Utica, NY area but yet the county has a 9% unemployment rate.

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chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
cl, are you workin again after being laid off. or are you still unemployed?? Either way, since I know you from our "communications", and i have learned more about you and your thinking from the "stuff" you send me in PM's and even more from reading your post here, I have one recommendation for you...even if you are working, you need to look for work as a "comedy" writer....you'd do great...you are killing me here...i haven't laughed so hard in a long time reading all of you "stuff"..

Here I even did a "search" for you...give it a try...seriously..you'd do great..

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paullud

Veteran Expediter
YEP it is all the people fault that they could not pay their mortgage .

Yes it is, they took on a responsibility they could not handle.

YEP they are just to lazy to work and to stupid to learn how to budget their money .

Yes on the to lazy, some are probably to stupid to budget money while others myself included just never bothered, I am working on budgeting now though.

so glad you think that way and that the government is always doing the right thing .

Just because someone disagrees with you on one topic you always start with the "you believe everything the government tells you" or "you live in a box" garbage. Why is it all or nothing with you?


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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
So do you call child protective services to have this investigated or do nothing?

You are joking are you not? John Dingell, through the UAW is ASSISTING in this! His staff instructs "mentors" in the UAW to teach welfare rangers and Medicaid Mammas on how to do this. The kids are clean and fed, no one cares about the rest. They are doing nothing that Obama and Clinton did not do.
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
so these are those poor people who no fault of their own have a rigght to our tax dollars?

Food Stamp Abuse Caught On Camera - Investigates News Story - WSB Atlanta

or these?

Ten people charged in welfare fraud sweep - YNN, Your News Now

or these?

Welfare fraud raid lands 28 people in custody today | syracuse.com

you will love this one one lady 2nd time caught another lady 3rd time caught.

NEMS360.com - Welfare abuse uncovered in north Mississippi

you see where this is going right.These poor helpless people.I could go on and on and on and on and on and on:D
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
Or this guy

O'Fallon man sentenced to 33 months in prison for food stamp fraud | KMOV.com St. Louis

yep all those poor helpless people selling him their foodstamps really nned our tax dollars to help pay for their food!

Or this one Let me guess its now a right to have tax payers buy cigarettes for people on welfare now too right?

Former St. Louis store owner gets prison for food stamp fraud

I don't understand what they need cash for, they are already getting their necessities paid for.

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clcooper

Expert Expediter
They lost their job and can go get another, some are better equipped than others.

so glad .that can be done in your fairy tail . but i am talking about the real life . not the life you live in that box of yours .


There are plenty of places that are hiring, people are to lazy or feel the work is beneath them.
what state is all these jobs hiring at . yep i guess you can call me lazy because i will not walk 100 miles for a job . just like you or anybody else


There will still be plenty of entry level jobs available. Stop trying to convince yourself that people are unemployed for months because there is no job available, have you seen the number of truck driver ads? With unemployment now they get paid to go to school and get the training paid for, but again they feel it is beneath them or aren't willing to sacrifice. Check out the amount of places looking for drivers or any other type of worker in the Utica, NY area but yet the county has a 9% unemployment rate.

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i ask where are all these jobs you say are hiring . yep every human being should drive truck for a living . and since you remember i will remind you .that the heath problems that people do have that will not let them drive truck with the laws the way they are .

SO WANT ARE THEY TO DO are they just still to lazy to work .

since when do they pay the unemployed to go to school . what state is that in . i have seen any thing about it . did you get that off the same web site that said 9/11 cant be a inside job .

schools last more then 26 weeks unemployment last 26 weeks .

and agian check and see how many want years worth of exprince at that job they are hiring for and how many are asking for degrees


STOP AND THINK PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST LIKE YOU . some are not as smart as you , some are not as dumb as you , some are heathier then you , some are not as heathy as you . some like to do the same thing as you . and some dont . some are as good at some thing as you are and some are not as good as you .

so before you tell somebody the are lazy because they can go drive truck because they are hiring truck drivers all the time . is just as bad as telling somebody they are all ways hiring for doctors too .
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I don't understand what they need cash for, they are already getting their necessities paid for.

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They spend it at the casinos in Detroit and Windsor Canada. I just LOVE it when the whiners who cry about how much drugs cost get on buss tours to Windsor to get cheaper Canadian drugs. They get their meds then spend HOURS at the casinos there spending money that they did NOT have to spend on meds. Or those who complain and whine about being OWED FREE medical care and then hop in the zillion dollar motor home or take a few cruses a year.
 

clcooper

Expert Expediter
Let's see. My niece are her "whatever" have NO jobs of any kind. Not even minimum wage. They have internet, 3 Obama phones, food stamps, don't pay for housing and do not support their 3 kids. They have a car, both can afford tatoo's, her "whatever" can afford cigarettes and they both can afford to smoke pot and do who know's what else. Then they complain that the government does nothing for them. They are only getting what they are "owed". They should be getting more if you ask them. Been that way for years. Their father did not work for 20 years and there is little chance for their kids. I have little doubt that there are "excuse makers" who will say it is not their fault. They were FORCED to be stupid and lazy by greedy corporations or something like that. It is NOT their fault that they NEVER tried to upgrade their jobs skills, that would interfere with their pot smoking time.

and i do agree .


but i ask if anybody if they lost their jobs right now could they live on minimum wage job . and not one person has said yes or no
all i get back is that the people are to lazy to work and just want hand outs . or they have so many skills that the next day they would be starting their new job .
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
and i do agree .


but i ask if anybody if they lost their jobs right now could they live on minimum wage job . and not one person has said yes or no
all i get back is that the people are to lazy to work and just want hand outs . or they have so many skills that the next day they would be starting their new job .

Nope, and I would not try. Minimum wage jobs are NOT, by their very nature, jobs for raising a family on. They are, at best, entry level or retirement supplement jobs. If FORCED into minimum a minimum wage job I would either work two or three, better yet, I would mow lawns or wash windows. Then I could set my OWN wage. I HATE working for other people. I prefer to decide what I am worth.

In reality I am 100% AGAINST the very idea of a government "Minimum wage". The government has NO business mandating wage structure. My reading of the Constitution does not even give the government that kind of power. I believe that they have, as in sooooo many other cases, far overstepped their LEGAL authority.
 

Ragman

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Nope, and I would not try. Minimum wage jobs are NOT, by their very nature, jobs for raising a family on. They are, at best, entry level or retirement supplement jobs. If FORCED into minimum a minimum wage job I would either work two or three, better yet, I would mow lawns or wash windows. Then I could set my OWN wage. I HATE working for other people. I prefer to decide what I am worth.

In reality I am 100% AGAINST the very idea of a government "Minimum wage". The government has NO business mandating wage structure. My reading of the Constitution does not even give the government that kind of power. I believe that they have, as in sooooo many other cases, far overstepped their LEGAL authority.

You can't go there. He doesn't believe the constitution exists. :rolleyes:
 

clcooper

Expert Expediter
Or this guy

O'Fallon man sentenced to 33 months in prison for food stamp fraud | KMOV.com St. Louis

yep all those poor helpless people selling him their foodstamps really nned our tax dollars to help pay for their food!

Or this one Let me guess its now a right to have tax payers buy cigarettes for people on welfare now too right?

Former St. Louis store owner gets prison for food stamp fraud

ok you got me ALL PEOPLE WHO ARE UNEMPLOYED ARE JUST TO LAZY TO WORK . all people who are unemployed or on welfare are crooks and just want to leach off the system

NOW POST LINKS ABOUT ALL THE CROOKED THINGS THE GOVERNMENT HAS DONE AND THE CROOKED THINGS MOST RICH HAVE DONE TO GET RICH.

yes being crooked is a hard work . is that the hard work you mean for those unemployed should do .
 

cheri1122

Veteran Expediter
Driver
so these are those poor people who no fault of their own have a rigght to our tax dollars?

Food Stamp Abuse Caught On Camera - Investigates News Story - WSB Atlanta

or these?

Ten people charged in welfare fraud sweep - YNN, Your News Now

or these?

Welfare fraud raid lands 28 people in custody today | syracuse.com

you will love this one one lady 2nd time caught another lady 3rd time caught.

NEMS360.com - Welfare abuse uncovered in north Mississippi

you see where this is going right.These poor helpless people.I could go on and on and on and on and on and on:D

I couldn't get the second link to display anything but 'error', but the other 3 detail thefts that totaled just over one half million dollars.
In one recent case in Dearborn, Mi, investigators found fraud totaling 58.6 MILLION dollars by ONE group of 16 people: 4 doctors and 12 pharmacists. :eek:
This, mind you, is just the latest case I've noticed - it probably happens a lot more than gets reported, too.
Predictably, all the outrage is directed against the scum at the bottom of the pile, who steal pennies, while those at the high end steal REAL money, and where are the links to illustrate how much more the white collar scum cost taxpayers? :mad:

 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
so glad .that can be done in your fairy tail . but i am talking about the real life . not the life you live in that box of yours .

So you are saying that getting another job is impossible then. When you start with the living inside a box comments it just proves you have nothing intelligent to say or no counter to what was said.

what state is all these jobs hiring at . yep i guess you can call me lazy because i will not walk 100 miles for a job . just like you or anybody else

If you bothered reading what I wrote you would see I gave you an exact city and state. There are plenty of other areas in this country that are hiring as well, you might have to move if you live in the middle of nowhere but the jobs are there.

i ask where are all these jobs you say are hiring . yep every human being should drive truck for a living . and since you remember i will remind you .that the heath problems that people do have that will not let them drive truck with the laws the way they are .

I already told you where the jobs are, I will tell you what you give me your location or a place nearby and I will help you find a job. Driving a truck is an option for many of the unemployed but there could be a health problem that might stop a few.

SO WANT ARE THEY TO DO are they just still to lazy to work .

No they need to wise up get a new skill and find another line of work.

since when do they pay the unemployed to go to school . what state is that in . i have seen any thing about it . did you get that off the same web site that said 9/11 cant be a inside job .

They have been paying unemployment to people that lost their job and are in school for years now in many states. On top of that there are many federal grants available that will pay for a small school.

schools last more then 26 weeks unemployment last 26 weeks .

Unemployment lasts 26 and then you file for an extension.

and agian check and see how many want years worth of exprince at that job they are hiring for and how many are asking for degrees

If you want a doctor's salary you are going to need a degree, but there are many jobs that pay a livable wage with no degree.

STOP AND THINK PEOPLE ARE NOT JUST LIKE YOU . some are not as smart as you , some are not as dumb as you , some are heathier then you , some are not as heathy as you . some like to do the same thing as you . and some dont . some are as good at some thing as you are and some are not as good as you .

Right so they can find something they are smart and healthy enough to do.

so before you tell somebody the are lazy because they can go drive truck because they are hiring truck drivers all the time . is just as bad as telling somebody they are all ways hiring for doctors too .

I never said truck driving was the only option, I said they are hiring drivers and people for other jobs. If they would rather not work and want to just collect unemployment when jobs are available they are being lazy.

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paullud

Veteran Expediter
They spend it at the casinos in Detroit and Windsor Canada. I just LOVE it when the whiners who cry about how much drugs cost get on buss tours to Windsor to get cheaper Canadian drugs. They get their meds then spend HOURS at the casinos there spending money that they did NOT have to spend on meds. Or those who complain and whine about being OWED FREE medical care and then hop in the zillion dollar motor home or take a few cruses a year.

Oh I was concerned they might be selling food stamps and using the money for illegal drugs.

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