How Long Before This Happens Here.....

OntarioVanMan

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Because they truly know what poor is.They see that america is the only country in the world where you can be born poor and die rich through nothing more then hard work.They also know what real hard work is.I think most of all,many of them come from nothing and they see what they can have in life here in america and are willing to work for it.:D

ditto can be done in Canada too...;)
 

BillChaffey

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US Navy
Probably back in the 80's Mayor Koch of New York city was involved in a controversy. Some Negros were complaining that a Korean family had moved into their neighborhood. Started work in a small convenience type store. Shortly after they bought the store. Then the building. The Negros complained the Koreans were taking over the neighborhood.
Mayor Koch responded if the Negros had the same work ethic they could do the same.
He was replaced by David Dinkins a Negro the following election and the city went down hill in a hurry.
 

OntarioVanMan

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Probably back in the 80's Mayor Koch of New York city was involved in a controversy. Some Negros were complaining that a Korean family had moved into their neighborhood. Started work in a small convenience type store. Shortly after they bought the store. Then the building. The Negros complained the Koreans were taking over the neighborhood.
Mayor Koch responded if the Negros had the same work ethic they could do the same.
He was replaced by David Dinkins a Negro the following election and the city went down hill in a hurry.

and that is what is happening right now....the east indians are hard working people...they are building a life here whilst the Americans continue to dig themselves a hole...
 

EnglishLady

Veteran Expediter
Because they truly know what poor is.They see that america is the only country in the world where you can be born poor and die rich through nothing more then hard work.They also know what real hard work is.I think most of all,many of them come from nothing and they see what they can have in life here in america and are willing to work for it.:D

ditto can be done in Canada too...;)



Ditto can be done in UK too and most other first world Countries .... ;)
 

skyraider

Veteran Expediter
US Navy
It's pounded into them from birth..they can't help themselves...LOL

If white boy America would quit running around drinking, spending all his money on a 8ft tall 4x4, chasing u know what, have 3 cell phones, 2 xbox360s,one bassboat, and watching 2 guys kicking the shetz out of each other in a fenced in ring, and all, and start a plan on some sort of business, ugh, it might be different...............darn it , I left my cooler on the back of my tailgate next to that old girl and shes got my cellphone and trollingmotor, now where did I park? :rolleyes:
 

chefdennis

Veteran Expediter
Originally Posted by scottm4211
It really is bizarre to think that it can only happen in the US

Ovm wrote:

It's pounded into them from birth..they can't help themselves...LOL

Before the libs in our government decided they needed to help the "poor", most of them didn't know they were poor and they too found a way to get on with life...then the gov came to "help" them...and it has been down hill ever sense.....
 

OntarioVanMan

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Originally Posted by scottm4211


Ovm wrote:



Before the libs in our government decided they needed to help the "poor", most of them didn't know they were poor and they too found a way to get on with life...then the gov came to "help" them...and it has been down hill ever sense.....

Like mirror countries now...:(
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
Why does OVM have a picture of Raymond Burr as his avatar? :confused:

You mean Perry Mason Raymond Burr? You mean Ironsides Raymond Burr? No wine before its time Raymond Burr?

Raymond-Burr-2-769337.jpg


Looks like you had more wine before its time. You're seeing double.

Hey! It's Raymond Blur!
 

clcooper

Expert Expediter
If you say so!!:D

just what i meant your way of thinking is the only way and every body else needs think the way you do . if they dont they are not worth listening to .

black man at a KKK meeting . and what you commented back is the same as saying the KKK way is the best . hell with the black man at the meeting . because he doesnt believe in what you believe in .
 

cheri1122

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Driver
I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible for you guys [and I mean that literally] to understand how it feels to be less strong, smart, and able than you guys. Like, if you can mow lawns & dig ditches, why can't everyone else? [Though I have to advise LOS to cross 'writing a web page' off his list, ok? :p]
Well, 'everyone' includes a whole lot of women, you know, and even without kids they have no one to take care of, they simply aren't going to get the jobs that men are better at - fact. And too, they don't have a wife who takes care of the household/kids/shopping/laundry so the man is free to work, like so many men take for granted.
And Greg: don't know, don't care - it's anecdotal, and even if it's true, what does it prove? There are Americans who have done it too - but the deck is most definitely stacked against them now.
40 years ago, a person got a job without a college degree, stayed with it till retirement, saved, bought a house, raised kids, sent them to college, and had enough money to retire without starving - all from a regular middle of the road job.
I say it again: without good jobs, what have we got?
 

OntarioVanMan

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I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible for you guys [and I mean that literally] to understand how it feels to be less strong, smart, and able than you guys. Like, if you can mow lawns & dig ditches, why can't everyone else? [Though I have to advise LOS to cross 'writing a web page' off his list, ok? :p]
Well, 'everyone' includes a whole lot of women, you know, and even without kids they have no one to take care of, they simply aren't going to get the jobs that men are better at - fact. And too, they don't have a wife who takes care of the household/kids/shopping/laundry so the man is free to work, like so many men take for granted.
And Greg: don't know, don't care - it's anecdotal, and even if it's true, what does it prove? There are Americans who have done it too - but the deck is most definitely stacked against them now.
40 years ago, a person got a job without a college degree, stayed with it till retirement, saved, bought a house, raised kids, sent them to college, and had enough money to retire without starving - all from a regular middle of the road job.
I say it again: without good jobs, what have we got?

Taxes, More taxes, user fees, and surcharges....:eek:
 

cheri1122

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Taxes, More taxes, user fees, and surcharges....:eek:

Just more profit for the government and the corporations. Corporations are sitting on piles of money, but hiring isn't in the forecast....
Perry is bragging about how many jobs Tx added, but he doesn't say they're minimum wage, which Tx is tied with Ms for 1st place at providing.
It's ALL bad news anymore, sigh.

 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
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no one promised us a rose garden, or life would be a bowl of cherries...only the pursuit of happiness....we just keep on pursuing...:)
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
just what i meant your way of thinking is the only way and every body else needs think the way you do . if they dont they are not worth listening to .

black man at a KKK meeting . and what you commented back is the same as saying the KKK way is the best . hell with the black man at the meeting . because he doesnt believe in what you believe in .

I dont think my way of thinkking is the only way of thinking.I love the fact that other people do not think or feel the same as I do.What a sad world we would have if everone thought and felt the same way.

Also me saying by you feeling the need to bring racism into this debate shows how weak you know your augument is.Is in no way saying that the kkk way of thinking is the right way of thinking.Id be willing to bet you are the only one who took it that way:DYou see that also is on page one of the how to be a liberal handbook.Its rule number 2 Claim statements fom the right mean something they dont.If that dont work see rule number 3,That one is also on page 1 of the handbook you see its a short handbook.Rule #3 is see rule #1 cry racism.:eek:
If it was not your point in saying "I feel like a black man at a kkk meeting or a jew in a catholic church" to cry racism then what was your point?

I'm beginning to wonder if it's even possible for you guys [and I mean that literally] to understand how it feels to be less strong, smart, and able than you guys. Like, if you can mow lawns & dig ditches, why can't everyone else? [Though I have to advise LOS to cross 'writing a web page' off his list, ok? :p]
Well, 'everyone' includes a whole lot of women, you know, and even without kids they have no one to take care of, they simply aren't going to get the jobs that men are better at - fact. And too, they don't have a wife who takes care of the household/kids/shopping/laundry so the man is free to work, like so many men take for granted.
And Greg: don't know, don't care - it's anecdotal, and even if it's true, what does it prove? There are Americans who have done it too - but the deck is most definitely stacked against them now.
40 years ago, a person got a job without a college degree, stayed with it till retirement, saved, bought a house, raised kids, sent them to college, and had enough money to retire without starving - all from a regular middle of the road job.
I say it again: without good jobs, what have we got?

The woman augument worked alot better 10-20 years ago.Because she is a women does not take her off the hook.How many women take for granted the husbands that go out and do a back breaking job so the woman does not have to go out and get a job.Sorry if that statement sounded sexist not who I am.When im home I help with the house I help do the dishes I help do the laundry I help clean the house and yes that includes cleaning the toilets.Maybe part of the problem is that some woman are willing to lets themselfs be put in that way of life.For me It does not matter if you are a women or a man even with the deck stacked against A person has control over their own destiny and course in life.

ditto can be done in Canada too...;)

Ok I should have said america is one of the only countrys in the world where a person can be born poor and die rich through hard work.
 

tbubster

Seasoned Expediter
Taxes, More taxes, user fees, and surcharges....:eek:

Just more profit for the government and the corporations. Corporations are sitting on piles of money, but hiring isn't in the forecast....
Perry is bragging about how many jobs Tx added, but he doesn't say they're minimum wage, which Tx is tied with Ms for 1st place at providing.
It's ALL bad news anymore, sigh.


A minimum wage job is better then sitting on welfare.:D
 
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