Friggen' Socialist

[witness23]

How 'bout that Socialist Reagan?


We've just witnessed 7 pages of the Repubulican base(not including Gary, Monger and Rlent) chasing its tail and the reason why you will see President Obama in the White House for another 4 years.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Ronald Reagan is acknowledged as the most conservative President of the modern era. If we could get someone to the right of Reagan elected, that would be a nice change.

Had a chance. Ron Paul was to the right of "far right".

"Let's see... upholds Constitution, but I don't agree with his foreign policy. Looks like Romney for me."

 

[Tennesseahawk]

We hold great hope the Supreme Court has voted to strike down Obamacare. Their decision will be announced in June. With the Supremes making the call, Congress is off the hook. Moreover, if SCOTUS strikes down Obamacare, then Romney doesn't have to act on this matter.

I am curious why our libertarian friends rake other GOP candidates over the coals while almost never mentioning Obama or his policies. Their near silence on Obama highlights the ruse of Ron Paul running on the GOP ticket. It seems they have no over-riding desire to defeat Obama as their sole interest rests elsewhere. I expect a good number of RP supporters to vote for Obama as an act of spite. Ron Paul or not at all? I can't even begin to explain how destructive that thinking is.

We rake over other Republicans because they STOLE the party from the true conservative! We have no control over who the Democrats select. All we can do is bring to the attention of the American people that the Republicans, as is, are no better than the Democrats.

...And we want our party back.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

My guess is a good number of the RP supporters are guided primarily by their "anti neocon " ferver. Everything else is secondary including defeating Obama.

Defeating a socialist with another socialist? Milk is milk. Only difference with the leading Republican milk is it's white. And you have a milkstache.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Ron Paul is the ultimate RINO. He has used the Republican Party to make a living for himself. He has done nothing to help grow the party. Never works on behalf of the party. Never says a kind word about the GOP. Still, Ron Paul will run lightning fast to declare his candidacy over and over again in a party he obviously scorns. Ron Paul is a user and a loser. He was a bad candidate with a poor message. A poison pill interloper. Loose cannon. Ron Paul is political gangrene. We can take solace his candidacy was overwhelmingly rejected. Please, no more Ron Paul silliness. If Paul wants to run again in four years, providing jobs for his extended family, let him run on the Libertarian ticket. That would be more honest.

No... he's trying to take back the party. He rejects the neo-cons and RINOs, and is trying to rally the true conservatives and libertarians to take back what was once theirs.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

You had five candidates with only two having any possibility of winning. You could have ten and the same problem still exists.

That won't change unless you take finances out of the picture which isn't likely to happen. Money makes 90 percent of the race.
If you don't have that as a candidate, you are basically insignificant.

And who exactly controls the finances? I rest my case.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

There were fifty million or so candidates in '08 and there will be again this year. At least that many must be eligible and you could write their name in. RP and RP both were/are good choices until you reach that point where they are no longer viable and will only guarantee the worst possible outcome. Then it's time to switch horses to one with at least a chance of finishing. RP is it through the end of May but after the primary, barring MAJOR changes, his time will be over in Texas just as it is elsewhere. We can hope for that miracle but when it's no longer possible it's time to give up the pie in the sky and vote the demon out of office.

Says Leo, the Lover of the Lesser of Two Evils.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

I am constantly surprised how much venom libertarians pour out on the GOP and conservatives. The GOP is the conservative party even though it has way too many moderates at present. Isn't it in the best interest of all voters who are neither socialist or radically liberal to unite in defeating Barack Obama? Obama is the present danger. His removal from office must be addressed now. Pretending it doesn't matter if Obama is re-elected is madness. If re-elected, Obama will appoint the next three or four Supreme Court justices. Then, it's game over.

UNITE REPUBLICANS! WE LIKE... umm... (who did they tell us to like again?) ... oh yeah, THIS GUY!

 

[Tennesseahawk]

While I am not a republican and i wrote paul in last time instead of voting for barry or mc cain and i voted for paul in the ohio primary this yr...I done see your 20 yr history of voting for someone that has no chance of winning working so well up to this point Gary....as i said, ill continue to support canidates with the ideals of the Tea Party and or those that follow a simular path as Paul, and over time if enough of the electroate becomes educated, those candiates will then have a realistic chance...but voting for someone that has no chance of wnning to make the statement of "hey i voted 3rd party to make a difference"...isn't going make a difference at all...yea you can point to the incremental increase in 3rd party votes, but at the pace it is happening, you are not making a differece and you won't livelong enough to see it happen...

As was stated, the deal at the moment is to remove barry from office, nothing more, nothing less....

It's all about sleeping better at night, Chef. If Romney ends up being worse than Obama (and there's always a chance of that), then there goes your guilt. I say vote who YOU want to win, and let the robots select our destructor.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

Removing Barack Obama from office is the fight at hand.

And if we help you remove Obama, will we get our choice next time? The time after that?

 

[LDB]

Yes, says Leo who preferred Cain until he was forced out of the race and currently dislikes Paul least overall. The problem comes after the primary when it's then going to be a choice of greater evil or lesser evil. I'm by no means a Romney supporter at this point in time and would really love to have another choice in November. If that miracle happens you can bet I'll take advantage of it. Given the improbability of that, I'll vote against 100% Obama by voting for 78% Obama. As distasteful as it is, it's the only minutely sensible thing to do to at least diminish the negative impact on the nation.

 

[Tennesseahawk]

So instead of throwing gas on the fire, you'll only throw another log on it. Thanx, but I'd rather try in vain to put it out than to feed it.

 

[LDB]

I'm sorry, no. At this point I'm on the side of proper change. If we have a miracle that will bring proper change that's great. If not, the more likely outcome, I am not adding a log to the fire I am removing a log from the fire. Sadly, that won't put the fire out but it will at least diminish the fire.

 

[witness23]

Yes, says Leo who preferred Cain until he was forced out of the race and currently dislikes Paul least overall.

You mean this Herman Cain? You are joking right?

 

[RLENT]

You mean this Herman Cain? You are joking right?

Who would have ever thought that the GOP would have had it's own "Howard Dean" ? (100x)

 

[Pilgrim]

As you vote to remove someone from office every four years, I will vote for what America was founded to stand for. Continuing to vote to remove someone from office and replacing him with a lighter version of that person only gets you the same problem.

Again, how has your strategy worked in the last 30 years? It hasn't!

Let's see...over the past 32 years the GOP strategy has resulted in:

1980 - 1988 Ronald Reagan (removed Carter from office - thank God!)
1988 - 1992 Bush 41 (obviously preferable over Dukakis)
2000 - 2008 Geo. W. Bush (defeated Gore and Kerry - two really BAD candidates)

Also, let's not forget the GOP landslide of victories in the 2010 mid-term elections - an obvious repudiation of the Democrat's liberal agenda, especially in the House.

Looks like 20 out of the past 32 years shows the strategy has worked pretty good, and in NONE of those cases was the elected POTUS a lighter version of the person he replaced. This year is very similar to 1979, and the differences will become clearer as the campaign progresses. A vote for anyone other than Romney is effectively an endorsement for Obama, and it accomplishes nothing of substance.

 

[RLENT]

Let's see...over the past 32 years the GOP strategy has resulted in:

The government now being the largest it's ever been, the deficit now being the biggest it's ever been, and the public debt now being the largest it's ever been ....

The GOP has failed .... it is a f-a-i-l-u-r-e ....

Go peddle your neocon koolaid elsewhere .....

 

[chefdennis]

RLENT wrote:

Go peddle your neocon koolaid elsewhere .....

Wow!!! Now if you don't agree with others and you state your opinions and they aren't agreed with by others, you need to go away!?!? Your opinions are not welcome huh???

I have to say Randy, you ain't convincing anyone to vote for RP.......

 

[RLENT]

Wow!!! Now if you don't agree with others and you state your opinions and they aren't agreed with by others, you need to go away!?!?

Nope .... didn't say that at all ....

Your opinions are not welcome huh???

Well, I certainly don't welcome them (that being the point of what I said) .... and I harbor no illusions that Pilgrim welcomes mine ....

I have to say Randy, you ain't convincing anyone to vote for RP.......

Dennis,

I am not trying to ....

There is a certain crowd within the GOP (and elsewhere) that will never, ever support Dr. Paul under any circumstances .... as you yourself have found out and know very well ....

If folks choose to support Ron Paul because of who he is, and what he stands for .... then good for them ....

If they choose not to .... then that too is their decision ....

Personally, I don't think I have ever let anyone's supporters - no matter who they might be - stand in my way of supporting someone who I believe actually merits it ....

I'm afraid I can't say the same thing for the party however ....

 

[aristotle]

It has always been understood that Ron Paul supporters could not be counted to be involved with the heavy lifting required to remove Obama from office. Their "let it all burn down" approach to campaigns and governing is the primary reason Paul's camp is viewed as a marginalized fringe element. So, they shall remain on the sidelines.