Friggen' Socialist

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
The GOP is the conservative party...

Man, I'm glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee right then.

If re-elected, Obama will appoint the next three or four Supreme Court justices. Then, it's game over.

A hot stake is better than a cold chop, huh? Better a quick death than a painful, lingering one.

It's already GAME OVER, if RP isn't going to be elected. The only question is whether or not it can be rebuilt. Sometimes you have to stand back and let the pieces fall. Electing Romney is just postponing the inevitable.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
It has always been understood that Ron Paul supporters could not be counted to be involved with the heavy lifting required to remove Obama from office. Their "let it all burn down" approach to campaigns and governing is the primary reason Paul's camp is viewed as a marginalized fringe element. So, they shall remain on the sidelines.

Only for a couple more years, tops. By then, we'll have shed any appearance of a representative democracy, with stormtroopers in the streets demanding "ze papiers." If we're lucky, they'll say bitte. If Ron Paul isn't elected, that's the future, Romney or Obama.

There's NO POINT in removing Obama if his successor is Romney.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
It was over decades ago. There was NOTHING Ron Paul could have done, even IF he had tried, which he did not.


The time has long past for a free United States to exist. The only thing left to wonder is what is going to rise from the ashes? How long until Obama and Co. start using force? My guess it will not be long into he second term.
 

AMonger

Veteran Expediter
Yes, says Leo who preferred Cain until he was forced out of the race and currently dislikes Paul least overall. The problem comes after the primary when it's then going to be a choice of greater evil or lesser evil. I'm by no means a Romney supporter at this point in time and would really love to have another choice in November. If that miracle happens you can bet I'll take advantage of it. Given the improbability of that, I'll vote against 100% Obama by voting for 78% Obama. As distasteful as it is, it's the only minutely sensible thing to do to at least diminish the negative impact on the nation.

It's been asked before, and it's time to do so again: How many times will you fall for that? The duopoly knows they put us over that barrel every four years, and you learn nothing from it. For years from now, if by some miracle there are still free elections, you'll be saying the same thing.

How many times can you fall for that? It's like when Moe punched Curly in the stomach, so Curly puts his hands over his midsection to protect it, so Moe pokes him in the eyes. Curly moves his hands to protect them, and Moe punches him in the stomach. That goes on and on and on and on. As long as Curly keeps doing that, Moe's going to keep abusing him. That's what you're falling for, only we're ALL getting hit because you keep falling for it and won't do anything different than vote for the slightly lesser of two evils.

How long will you keep falling for it?
 

LDB

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I'll just go bang my head on the wall a while rather than explain yet again. Those capable already know and others apparently never will get it.
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
Let's see...over the past 32 years the GOP strategy has resulted in:

1980 - 1988 Ronald Reagan (removed Carter from office - thank God!)
1988 - 1992 Bush 41 (obviously preferable over Dukakis)
2000 - 2008 Geo. W. Bush (defeated Gore and Kerry - two really BAD candidates)

Also, let's not forget the GOP landslide of victories in the 2010 mid-term elections - an obvious repudiation of the Democrat's liberal agenda, especially in the House.

Looks like 20 out of the past 32 years shows the strategy has worked pretty good, and in NONE of those cases was the elected POTUS a lighter version of the person he replaced. This year is very similar to 1979, and the differences will become clearer as the campaign progresses. A vote for anyone other than Romney is effectively an endorsement for Obama, and it accomplishes nothing of substance.

And none of them cut government spending, cut out one unconstitutional government department, or balanced a budget!

I rest my case!!!
 

aristotle

Veteran Expediter
And none of them cut government spending, cut out one unconstitutional government department, or balanced a budget!

I rest my case!!!
Geez, you guys do a lot of resting. You are cordially invited to a party which will remove well-known socialist, Barack Obama, from office. Respond by 1st Tuesday in November.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
It has always been understood that Ron Paul supporters could not be counted to be involved with the heavy lifting required to remove Obama from office. Their "let it all burn down" approach to campaigns and governing is the primary reason Paul's camp is viewed as a marginalized fringe element. So, they shall remain on the sidelines.

You expect us to clean up the mess made by clueless voters and shameless bureaucrats? Thanx, but I will stay on the sideline and taunt you a second time.

I told ya so! I told ya so! :p
 

RLENT

Veteran Expediter
It has always been understood that Ron Paul supporters could not be counted to be involved with the heavy lifting required to remove Obama from office.
Oh, now that's pretty funny right there .... considering the fact that Dr. Paul's supporters are the only ones out of all the candidates (besides Mitt Romney's - who were bought and paid for with Wall Street money) to put together and field a nationwide political organization ....

This was done largely as an unpaid grassroots effort ....

While you and your brethren were busy navel-gazing and hemming and hawing for at least the last 12 months, waiting to see who everyone else was going to support .... so you could determine who you should support .... the Ron Paul supporters had already put boots on the ground prior and were in the process of building a nationwide organization ....

To address only two of the more recent wanna-be's: Santorum and Gingrich couldn't even manage to get ballot access in anything close to all 50 states .... and Gingrich, currently sitting with $4.5 million in campaign debt, has just bounced a $500 filing fee check to the State Elections Office in Utah ....

Mebbe Calista should hit the pawnshops with some of that Tiffany gear to cover ?

No, what you really want is some sort mindless march in lockstep with "the party" .... no matter who the candidate is ....

What a collectivist load of crapola ....

I suspect if ol' Karl Marx himself was the GOP candidate you'd be squealing about how people oughta jump in line to support him ....

Their "let it all burn down" approach to campaigns and governing is the primary reason Paul's camp is viewed as a marginalized fringe element.
BWAHAHAHA ....

Surely you aren't suggesting that Dr. Paul's strict Constitutionalism and fiscal austerity is the thing that could or would possibly be responsible for "letting it all burn down" ?

No, I think it is the lemming mindset and "groupthink" of "the party at any and all costs" that has delivered that as a reality for our nation ....

I understand that the "support" for Romney as the eventual nominee is wide .... but tell me: how deep do you think it is ?

Is it strong and committed .... or is it shallow and weak ?

So, they shall remain on the sidelines.
ROTFLMAO ....

Sidelines ?

Put this in your pipe and smoke it (Dave, you might want to watch this one):


.... giving Paul the state's entire delegation ?

Oh no mercy me ! .... say it ain't so !

The plain fact of the matter is, is that it is substantial numbers of (fairweather) "supporters" who have "remained on the sidelines" .... have failed to make it happen for Rick S, Newt, Herman, Tim, John, Michelle, and Rick P ....

My candidate is still in the race .... how many of yours have dropped out ?

.... have you even decided who you are going to support ?

On the sidelines thing, you can tell it to AJ Spiker - the new State GOP Chairman of Iowa .... a Ron Paul supporter ....

Tell it to Brent Stafford, a Ron Paul supporter .... who was elected permanent caucus chairman in St. Charles, MO .... over the State GOP Chair ....

Tell it to the new Clark County Nevada Republican Central Committee Executive Board .... Ron Paul supporters all ....

Clark County (NV) GOP Convention: Ron Paul Slate Sweeps Executive Board | Election Apocalypse

Paul supporters seize control of Clark County GOP - News - ReviewJournal.com

Tell it to the 50 or so national candidates .... and the 200 or so state and local candidates .... who are Ron Paul supporters ....

And speaking of supporters remaining on the sidelines, scope this out:


romneyrally.jpg
.... paid sign wavers .... what the .... ?

Yup .... real strong showing there .... just what is needed to fire up the GOP membership and GOTV ....

BTW - have ya seen the new Rasmussen Poll ?

Dr. Paul beats Obama when matched up, head to head with Obama .... Romney only ties:

Daily Presidential Tracking Poll - Rasmussen Reports™
 
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layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Yep, and he ain't gonna get nominated and, for the most part, it is HIS fault. He is just a BAD campaigner. All the excitement of dry toast. Too little fire, too little temper on his ideas and too little experience. The ideas are there but that is about it.

That does NOT mean that I like Romney or the way things are going. I will vote FOR the person that I will write in which will help to insure Obama's election, as all 'off brand' votes will do. Many others will do the same. Obama will win. Then I will prepare for the upcoming fight. I think that this scourge is not going to pass us by.
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
Yep, and he ain't gonna get nominated and, for the most part, it is HIS fault. He is just a BAD campaigner. All the excitement of dry toast. Too little fire, too little temper on his ideas and too little experience. The ideas are there but that is about it.

That does NOT mean that I like Romney or the way things are going. I will vote FOR the person that I will write in which will help to insure Obama's election, as all 'off brand' votes will do. Many others will do the same. Obama will win. Then I will prepare for the upcoming fight. I think that this scourge is not going to pass us by.

Thank you GOP for decades of following the lobbyists instead of the constitution!
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
Thank you GOP for decades of following the lobbyists instead of the constitution!


Yep, the Democrats are the same. The ONLY problem is there is NO viable alternative out there. There is no other 'party' or candidate that can win. Those are just the facts.

SO, I will NOT settle this time. I will write in the name of a person that I believe can do what is needed. My vote will be based on my beliefs and experience.

If someone has a better idea, I am ALL ears! Keep in mind, based on MY beliefs and experience, which is all I have to go by, Ron Paul is NOT the answer. For me, voting for Paul would be as much as settling for Romney or Obama.
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul unless he left the GOP...


I would not vote for him no matter what party he was with. I don't believe that he is capable of the job. He is strictly a 'theory man'. Some good ideas, no experience to back them up. We have had FAR too many of those of late.
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
If my choice was a independent Ron Paul or pick a socialist, I would vote for Ron Paul! At least he would pick constitution defending judges...
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
I wouldn't vote for Ron Paul unless he left the GOP...

He's trying to take back the GOP for the conservatives. And he's doing it, one county at a time. Ultimately, I think this is what he's after... organization. But the question is, who is he setting up for next time? Rand?
 

garyatk

Seasoned Expediter
Until the GOP returns to the constitution, I will have NOTHING to do with it or the people who run for office with an (R) behind their name!
 

layoutshooter

Veteran Expediter
Retired Expediter
NEITHER Party believes in our Constitution. Neither do many of the People of the Country. FAR TOO many are "Gimmie Goobers". Rand is just ANOTHER theory man. No experience to back up his ideas, what ever they are.

As sated before, it is not the cream rising to the top.
 

Tennesseahawk

Veteran Expediter
NEITHER Party believes in our Constitution. Neither do many of the People of the Country. FAR TOO many are "Gimmie Goobers". Rand is just ANOTHER theory man. No experience to back up his ideas, what ever they are.

As sated before, it is not the cream rising to the top.

Thomas Jefferson ran a plantation and was an architect. George Washington ran a candy store (according to the cartoon). I'm sure neither were overly prepared for what was to come. In the end, I don't think many presidents are REALLY prepared for what the office holds.
 
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