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Tennesseahawk

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Until the GOP returns to the constitution, I will have NOTHING to do with it or the people who run for office with an (R) behind their name!

RP needed name recognition. His name would NEVER get out there as a member of the Libertarian party. Even now, the lame-stream press doesn't acknowledge him enough.
 

Turtle

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I would not vote for him no matter what party he was with. I don't believe that he is capable of the job. He is strictly a 'theory man'. Some good ideas, no experience to back them up. We have had FAR too many of those of late.
Wow. That's amazing. It's a great illustration of just how far we've gotten away from the Constitution. Someone advocates the historically proven, tried and true methods of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and of what this country's policies and actions were for our first 150 years, and they get branded as "theory man".
 
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witness23

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Wow. That's amazing. It's a great illustration of just how far we've gotten away from the Constitution. Someone advocates the historically proven, tried and true methods of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and of what this country's policies and actions were for out first 150 years, and they get branded as "theory man".

You beat me to it.

I seriously do not get it.
 

layoutshooter

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People who spend their lives ONLY in books are seldom able to move ideas into practice. At least, that is what I have seen in my life's experience.

By far, without a doubt, the WORST supervisors I ever had, regardless of where I was working, were those who just came out of college, no experience in the field, and were put in charge of 'something'.

By far, without a doubt, the BEST supervisors I have ever had were those who had worked in a particular job or field, for 15 or 20 years, from the ground floor up, and THEN put in charge of 'something'. Many of those had 'advanced education' but, at least in the fields I have worked in, it made little or no difference in their performance. It was their experience that carried them through.

I KNOW the MINIMUM requirements in the Constitution are and those are the only REQUIREMENTS that there are. Must we ALWAYS look for the MINIMUM when filling that position?

George Washington had fought two wars prior to gaining that office. He had just a tad more life experience than Obama did when he took office.
 

LDB

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If Ron Paul somehow is the republican nominee Ron Paul will get my vote because as much as some don't like it the republican whoever that may be is the only one who may defeat Obama. If RuPaul is the republican nominee, as horrible a thought as that is, it's still better than Obama. Anyone, other than a couple of dozen or so maybe, but Obama.
 

layoutshooter

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If Ron Paul somehow is the republican nominee Ron Paul will get my vote because as much as some don't like it the republican whoever that may be is the only one who may defeat Obama. If RuPaul is the republican nominee, as horrible a thought as that is, it's still better than Obama. Anyone, other than a couple of dozen or so maybe, but Obama.

IF Ron Paul somehow gets the nomination I MIGHT vote for him, not likely, but I might. I am tired of settling and voting for Paul would be settling for me. It reality it would not be a vote FOR Paul, I would NEVER vote FOR him. It would be a vote against Obama.
 

LDB

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Well my vote will only be a vote against Obama I'm sure but it will be a vote against Obama and the only way to truly do that is vote republican as distasteful as that is. Obama must go. He must. We probably can't survive another four years of Obama, especially when he is no longer constrained by re-election thoughts.
 

layoutshooter

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Well my vote will only be a vote against Obama I'm sure but it will be a vote against Obama and the only way to truly do that is vote republican as distasteful as that is. Obama must go. He must. We probably can't survive another four years of Obama, especially when he is no longer constrained by re-election thoughts.

You are likely right. If, likely when, he is reelected it will be the last election under our Constitution. Maybe the last for a LONG time. He will be crowned god of the Soviet Socialist States of North America. A division of the Soviet Socialist States of the World, controlled by the United Socialist Nations.
 

AMonger

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....While you and your brethren were busy navel-gazing and hemming and hawing for at least the last 12 months, waiting to see who everyone else was going to support .... so you could determine who you should support .... the Ron Paul supporters had already put boots on the ground prior and were in the process of building a nationwide organization ....
AND... While other candidates were pretending to wear a crown of fiscal responsibility, Ron Paul actually proposed $1 TRILLION in actual, needed cuts that would keep the financial wolves at bay. The other candidates were, AT BEST, proposing miniscule, meaningless cuts in the rate of proposed spending increases over a ridiculously long time, while supporting new programs that would increase the debt even more.

So ask me again why I say Ron Paul is the only candidate who even stands a ghost of a chance of saving America, and even his fiscal responsibility may be too little, too late.

That's why
 

layoutshooter

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AND... While other candidates were pretending to wear a crown of fiscal responsibility, Ron Paul actually proposed $1 TRILLION in actual, needed cuts that would keep the financial wolves at bay. The other candidates were, AT BEST, proposing miniscule, meaningless cuts in the rate of proposed spending increases over a ridiculously long time, while supporting new programs that would increase the debt even more.

So ask me again why I say Ron Paul is the only candidate who even stands a ghost of a chance of saving America, and even his fiscal responsibility may be too little, too late.

That's why

Ron Paul could propose anything he wants if he were elected. The Congress would NOT pass it. ONE MAN/WOMAN/IT cannot fix it. It will take a majority in BOTH houses WITH a President who want's to do right. NOT going to happen.
Paul does NOT have the leadership qualities to sway a congresss that does not agree with him.
 

AMonger

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Wow. That's amazing. It's a great illustration of just how far we've gotten away from the Constitution. Someone advocates the historically proven, tried and true methods of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution and of what this country's policies and actions were for our first 150 years, and they get branded as "theory man".

Well, you know what they say, the Founding Fathers couldn't wina primary today anywhere in the country.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 

AMonger

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When did the GOP follow the constitution?

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When they gave up Tricky Dick and voted for impeachment. The Demon-crats, however, had an even bigger criminal in office and not even one Demon-crat set foot into the evidence room before deliberations. When it was time to give up their criminal, they closed ranks and said, "Our president, right or wrong!" and portrayed the Republicans as trying to reverse a national election, which is a ludicrous assertion, considering another Demon-crat would have taken his place.

The Republicans are certainly flawed, and look more like the Demon-crats every day, but they still have a looooong way to go to match the hypocrisy of the Demon-crats.
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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 
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layoutshooter

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Well, you know what they say, the Founding Fathers couldn't wina primary today anywhere in the country.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

It is far worse that than. There are MILLIONS in this country who would WILLINGLY give up their rights let alone fight to retain them. I wonder how many view the Declaration of Independence as too radical?
 

AMonger

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Ron Paul could propose anything he wants if he were elected. The Congress would NOT pass it. ONE MAN/WOMAN/IT cannot fix it. It will take a majority in BOTH houses WITH a President who want's to do right. NOT going to happen.
Paul does NOT have the leadership qualities to sway a congresss that does not agree with him.

That being the case, we're going to crash anyway, because though others may be able to get a bill through, they won't propose cuts. So there we are.

At least with Ron Paul, the attempt could be made, and if it failed, blame would be fixed. It's Ron Paul and his fiscal responsibility, or economic, political, and social oblivion. Two choices, no more.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 
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AMonger

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It is far worse that than. There are MILLIONS in this country who would WILLINGLY give up their rights let alone fight to retain them. I wonder how many view the Declaration of Independence as too radical?

There are lots of people who worship so fervently at the altar of supposed authority that you could imprison them for life by putting them in a room with NO EXIT signs on the doors. How did Americans devolve into authority worshipers? We wouldn't be in the messes we're in had we remained independent and always questioned authority.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 

layoutshooter

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That being the case, we're going to crash anyway, because though others may be able to get a bill through, they won't propose cuts. So there we are.

At least with Ron Paul, the attempt could be made, and if it failed, blame would be fixed. It's Ron Paul and his fiscal responsibility, or economic, political, and social oblivion. Two choices, no more.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.

Ron Paul is/was a lousy candidate. He never had a chance, never even tried to win. Only had the ideas of the Founding Fathers, NEVER had the FIRE in his gut!

He is just a shell of what we need.
 
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