EO's doomsday preppers... what is the best advice?

[aristotle]

There seems to be a general consensus that end times are near. Based on what is read here on EO, disasterous economic collapse is coming which would result in a rapid breakdown in law and order.

"Stocking up on ammo" seems to be the most popular advice. Surely, no one here on EO intends to shoot and kill 500 people or 1000 people. What if your gun jams? What if you get shot first? No, ammo hoarding doesn't seem to be a sufficient plan for surviving.

EMP attack. No electricity. No fuel. No means of communication. No cash transactions. Pharmacies closed. Curfews. Martial law. FEMA camps. No food stamps or government checks. Public water and sewage sytems fail. Garbage collection stops. No mail delivery. No coffee or tobacco products. Packs of dogs roaming the streets.

Is stocking up on ammo the way to go?

 

[paullud]

I believe there is an intentional actions to bring the US dollar down but I am not sure why although I do have a couple of theories. I do not believe in FEMA camps or anything that would change the power we have over our government.

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[cheri1122]

I'd get more use from the series of books called Foxfire. They illustrate how people did things before or without 'modern civilization' to provide the food, water, clothing, medical, etc.
It's a wonderful read - begun as one book, by an Appalachian English teacher [Elliot Wigginton]who wanted to motivate his [high school] students in literature. He assigned them to interview the 'old folks' in their families & neighbors, about how things used to be. The project was so successful that the first book became a series, [the students wanted to keep going - imagine that!] describing 'how to' do things like make your own shoes - starting with the cow.
A lot of practical wisdom, and some humor, and 13 books on life without the modern conveniences - great stuff!
You could probably use some ammo too, but I doubt you'd need to stockpile.

 

[layoutshooter]

I am stocking up on ammo to provide food. I DO know how to hunt and I am VERY good at it. Same with fish hooks, line, tackle etc. I will ONLY fight if attacked. I have NEVER started a fight and I never will. Besides, IF one gun jams, which is HIGHLY unlikely because I take care of mine, I will just grab another one. I have NEVER had either my pumps or bolts jam. Even have a REALLY accurate single shot slug gun that is good out to 200YRDS.

EMP can be a natural event as well as man made. It is a REAL problem. It would pay everyone to read up on it. It is NOT science fiction. It is science reality.

 

[aristotle]

I'd get more use from the series of books called Foxfire. They illustrate how people did things before or without 'modern civilization' to provide the food, water, clothing, medical, etc.
It's a wonderful read - begun as one book, by an Appalachian English teacher [Elliot Wigginton]who wanted to motivate his [high school] students in literature. He assigned them to interview the 'old folks' in their families & neighbors, about how things used to be. The project was so successful that the first book became a series, [the students wanted to keep going - imagine that!] describing 'how to' do things like make your own shoes - starting with the cow.
A lot of practical wisdom, and some humor, and 13 books on life without the modern conveniences - great stuff!
You could probably use some ammo too, but I doubt you'd need to stockpile.

I am familiar with the Foxfire series, but never read them. I started this thread as a tongue-in-cheek exercise to exchange ideas about the efficacy of "stocking up on ammo." It is amazing how many people casually say the best plan is be prepared to kill others. Be prepared to kill many, many people. Is this where we are in human evolution?

 

[Ragman]

Is this where we are in human evolution?

Sure seems that way, doesn't it?

 

[layoutshooter]

I am familiar with the Foxfire series, but never read them. I started this thread as a tongue-in-cheek exercise to exchange ideas about the efficacy of "stocking up on ammo." It is amazing how many people casually say the best plan is be prepared to kill others. Be prepared to kill many, many people. Is this where we are in human evolution?

Is it OK if I feed myself? How is THAT killing people. NO ONE will get killed UNLESS they FIRST try to kill me or ANY member of my family. Leave me alone, I leave you alone. It is REAL simple. How do YOU intend to defend YOUR life if it were threatened? Just asking.

 

[aristotle]

I am stocking up on ammo to provide food. I DO know how to hunt and I am VERY good at it. Same with fish hooks, line, tackle etc. I will ONLY fight if attacked. I have NEVER started a fight and I never will. Besides, IF one gun jams, which is HIGHLY unlikely because I take care of mine, I will just grab another one. I have NEVER had either my pumps or bolts jam. Even have a REALLY accurate single shot slug gun that is good out to 200YRDS.

EMP can be a natural event as well as man made. It is a REAL problem. It would pay everyone to read up on it. It is NOT science fiction. It is science reality.

I mention an EMP attack because it would happen suddenly, without warning and be immediately devastating. I am convinced there is no good plan for surviving such things. If you are in your truck in California and your stockpile of doomsday goodies are home in Michigan, what good does that do in a catastrophic situation?

 

[layoutshooter]

I mention an EMP attack because it would happen suddenly, without warning and be immediately devastating. I am convinced there is no good plan for surviving such things. If you are in your truck in California and your stockplie of doomsday goodies are home in Michigan, what good does that do in a catastrophic situation?

I am WELL aware of the limitations of my current situation. Sure there are ways to survive, IF one has the gumption to do so. Depends on where I am in CA. I DO have 8 fishing rods, 10 reels, lots of tackle, hooks, line etc on the truck. I will try. IF I am where my what you call doomsday goodies are, it would be easier. Those who don't at least TRY to survive, won't. I may not but I won't roll over easy. I am ALSO looking into ways to remain at home more, I DO have a new boat to play with!

 

[paullud]

I am WELL aware of the limitations of my current situation. Sure there are ways to survive, IF one has the gumption to do so. Depends on where I am in CA. I DO have 8 fishing rods, 10 reels, lots of tackle, hooks, line etc on the truck. I will try. IF I am where my what you call doomsday goodies are, it would be easier. Those who don't at least TRY to survive, won't. I may not but I won't roll over easy. I am ALSO looking into ways to remain at home more, I DO have a new boat to play with!

I guess the saying "Those that fail to plan, plan to fail" applies to a catastrophe.

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[layoutshooter]

I guess the saying "Those that fail to plan, plan to fail" applies to a catastrophe.

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It applies to life.

 

[aristotle]

Is it OK if I feed myself? How is THAT killing people. NO ONE will get killed UNLESS they FIRST try to kill me or ANY member of my family. Leave me alone, I leave you alone. It is REAL simple. How do YOU intend to defend YOUR life if it were threatened? Just asking.

Suppose you are living in harmony on Lake Woebegone. A stranger approaches, befriends you (supposedly)... then after a day or two , kills you and takes all your stuff. Your own kindness did you in.

 

[davekc]

I don't think it is a EO consensus with regards to guns & ammo. I think LOS is the only one on that mission.
Some are just too desperate and depressing to hope for anything else.
Not worried here. If it all goes south the Chinese will be here to take over as they aleady have too much invested to let things get too bad.

 

[layoutshooter]

I don't think it is a EO consensus with regards to guns & ammo. I think LOS is the only one on that mission.
Some are just too desperate and depressing to hope for anything else.
Not worried here. If it all goes south the Chinese will be here to take over as they aleady have too much invested to let things get too bad.

I'm not on a mission. I believe that everyone should choose their own religion.

 

[wvcourier]

I believe there is an intentional actions to bring the US dollar down but I am not sure why although I do have a couple of theories. I do not believe in FEMA camps or anything that would change the power we have over our government.

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Can you say Amero, and North American Union.. If you have money in the stock market,i would invest in what Corperations are investing in....Prisons(CCA) fema camps will be an extension of the Prison Slave Labor that already exists. As for preparation, i keep at leastfive days of food in van, along with mobile b.o.b. Will alsoinvest in mobile solar generator soon. Probably xantrex...

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[bobwg]

Suppose you are living in harmony on Lake Woebegone. A stranger approaches, befriends you (supposedly)... then after a day or two , kills you and takes all your stuff. Your own kindness did you in.

You do not let a stranger into your area you only allow those that you can trust into anywhere near your location. And since someone mentioned an EMP it will knock out more than your truck most likely power plants etc so where are you going to get your water when it does not come out of the faucet when you turn it on? I stock up weapons, ammo, water, food. Nat Geo channel had a 2 hour show called After Armeggedon I hear it is out on DVD they had survival experts , mental health experts,self defense experts, etc going over different things from Natural Disasters, a medical pandemic, to the total collapse of civilization as we know it and how people would react prepared or not.

 

[Ragman]

...Prisons(CCA) fema camps will be an extension of the Prison Slave Labor that already exists. ...

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[OntarioVanMan]

I think maybe what this country needs is a real good crash?....a reality check....it might actually do some good....scare the beejeevees out of people....a life of freedom, without the extravagant way of life.....to live within their means...and appreciate the little things again....

 

[Monty]

No coffee or tobacco products.

Now that's scary right there!

 

[layoutshooter]

Suppose you are living in harmony on Lake Woebegone. A stranger approaches, befriends you (supposedly)... then after a day or two , kills you and takes all your stuff. Your own kindness did you in.

What in the world are you talking about? I would NEVER live near Lake Woebegone. Liberals INFEST that area.