Armstrong Vs. Obama

xiggi

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That is why I have serious problems voting for Romney, besides his 'liberal' ideas. He just does not inspires others to greatness.

Another thing, if I hear another candidate spout off about how THEY are going to create millions of jobs I think I might puke. NO president can create jobs. It just gets SO old. If there is to be no quality candidate then Romney needs a FAR better speech writer, a campaign manager with is not afraid to try and win and some public speaking lessons.

A president can create an environment for job growth and Romney certainly knows what the business world needs to create growth.

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layoutshooter

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A president can create an environment for job growth and Rodney certainly knows what the business world needs to create growth.

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Nope, unless he pulls an Obama and does everything by executive order. Congress passes laws, taxes, spending etc. 'Uncle Mitty' cannot. He MAY be able to encourage congress to do so but I doubt it. He will also do nothing to get rid of or at least control the regulatory agencies. Neither will congress.
 

xiggi

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Nope, unless he pulls an Obama and does everything by executive order. Congress passes laws, taxes, spending etc. 'Uncle Mitty' cannot. He MAY be able to encourage congress to do so but I doubt it. He will also do nothing to get rid of or at least control the regulatory agencies. Neither will congress.

If we get control of the senate and Romney wins you will see changes. No president is going to change everything in 4 years and if they tried it would do severe damage to our economy. There is one main thing that needs done in this election and that is removing bo. Once that is accomplished the grass roots must continue to apply pressure to accomplish our goals. If he is not removed the task of correcting course will take ten times longer.



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layoutshooter

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If WE get control of the Senate? Who is we? I don't want the Democrats OR the Republicans in office. BOTH parties are corrupt, both are left wing, and both are ONLY out for their own enrichment, power and glory.
 

muttly

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Nope, unless he pulls an Obama and does everything by executive order. Congress passes laws, taxes, spending etc. 'Uncle Mitty' cannot. He MAY be able to encourage congress to do so but I doubt it. He will also do nothing to get rid of or at least control the regulatory agencies. Neither will congress.

So you think Obamcare will be a good thing for the economy? If Romney is elected and the republicans win the senate. They will have the 51 votes to repeal and Romney will sign it.
 

layoutshooter

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So you think Obamcare will be a good thing for the economy? If Romney is elected and the republicans win the senate. They will have the 51 votes to repeal and Romney will sign it.


I don't like Obama Care. I don't believe they will repeal it. Once in power they won't give up the power it gives THEM! The Republicans are EXACTLY the same.
 

davekc

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I don't like Obama Care. I don't believe they will repeal it. Once in power they won't give up the power it gives THEM! The Republicans are EXACTLY the same.

There is nothing that indicates they won't repeal it or defund it. If you are looking at it from the "power grab" side of things, they would benefit by repealing it.
But since we currently have just republicans and democrats essentially involved this election, what is your solution? I am a little bit more of a optimist verses "there is no hope and everything is bad".
 

xiggi

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So you think Obamcare will be a good thing for the economy? If Romney is elected and the republicans win the senate. They will have the 51 votes to repeal and Romney will sign it.

I am beginning to think he just wants to complain.

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xiggi

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I don't like Obama Care. I don't believe they will repeal it. Once in power they won't give up the power it gives THEM! The Republicans are EXACTLY the same.

There you go again using those words exactly the same. Your posts are proving your not really paying attention.

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cubansammich

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Here is a PARTIAL list of Neil Armstrong's accomplishments by age 38:

* Armstrong grew up in Ohio with a strong interest in flight and earned his pilot's license while still a boy.


* After flying combat missions during the Korean War, he became a test pilot and joined NASA's astronaut program in 1962.


* As he stepped on the moon's dusty surface, Armstrong said: "“That's one small step for a man, one giant leap for mankind."


* Armstrong's pulse was measured at 150 beats per minute as he guided the lunar lander to the moon's surface, NASA said. Asked about his experience on the moon, he told CBS: "It's an interesting place to be. I recommend it."


He put his life on the line for his Country on MULTIPLE occasions and served with honor and distinction.

Obama's accomplishments by age 38

Did a lot of underage drinking. Smoked dope. Hung around with Anti-Americans and went to school, a lot of which he cannot remember because, by his own account, he was too wasted to remember. That is if he ever even went to school, no proof of it.

Looks like the wrong person was elected. Should have elected the MAN.


This makes no sense. Armstrong was never in politics. If anything it remind me of an old SNL sketch where da bears guys ask micheal jordan who would win in a competition between ditka and a hurricane.
 

cheri1122

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A president can create an environment for job growth and Romney certainly knows what the business world needs to create growth.

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Romney certainly knows what strategies offer the best ROI for shareholders, [after his company gets their enormous compensation], but that doesn't translate into creating the jobs that we need to get out of the mess we're in. Jobs mean increased tax revenue and consumer spending, which creates demand for products & services that create demand for more workers, etc. Romney is part of the trend to reduce labor costs by whatever means possible, which leaves Americans on unemployment. [Not to mention being insulted by the very people who put them there calling them 'gimme goobers' & the 'entitlement class']
Without the jobs, the government is short of funds while demand for the 'safety net' increases, which is just about where we've been stuck for years.
If Romney really wanted to create meaningful growth [to the entire country, not just the CEO, management & shareholders], he had plenty of opportunities to do it at Bain, but he wasn't interested then, and I don't believe he is now either. And please don't say 'that wasn't his job', because wanting to strengthen your country in whatever way is in your power to do it is everyone's job. He utterly failed.
PS Just read that
Wellpoint [parent to Blue Cross] shareholders forced the resignation of CEO A Braley, because they're unhappy with the ROI over the past few years. During those years, the CEO's pay doubled[ from 6 million to 13], and that's a common example of how business works: subpar performance earns millions, while those who do an excellent job lose it.
Romney won't change that, it's how he works and all he knows.
 

muttly

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Romney certainly knows what strategies offer the best ROI for shareholders, [after his company gets their enormous compensation], but that doesn't translate into creating the jobs that we need to get out of the mess we're in. Jobs mean increased tax revenue and consumer spending, which creates demand for products & services that create demand for more workers, etc. Romney is part of the trend to reduce labor costs by whatever means possible, which leaves Americans on unemployment. [Not to mention being insulted by the very people who put them there calling them 'gimme goobers' & the 'entitlement class']
Without the jobs, the government is short of funds while demand for the 'safety net' increases, which is just about where we've been stuck for years.
If Romney really wanted to create meaningful growth [to the entire country, not just the CEO, management & shareholders], he had plenty of opportunities to do it at Bain, but he wasn't interested then, and I don't believe he is now either. And please don't say 'that wasn't his job', because wanting to strengthen your country in whatever way is in your power to do it is everyone's job. He utterly failed.
PS Just read that
Wellpoint [parent to Blue Cross] shareholders forced the resignation of CEO A Braley, because they're unhappy with the ROI over the past few years. During those years, the CEO's pay doubled[ from 6 million to 13], and that's a common example of how business works: subpar performance earns millions, while those who do an excellent job lose it.
Romney won't change that, it's how he works and all he knows.

Just a bunch of misinformed gobbly goop.
 

xiggi

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Romney certainly knows what strategies offer the best ROI for shareholders, [after his company gets their enormous compensation], but that doesn't translate into creating the jobs that we need to get out of the mess we're in. Jobs mean increased tax revenue and consumer spending, which creates demand for products & services that create demand for more workers, etc. Romney is part of the trend to reduce labor costs by whatever means possible, which leaves Americans on unemployment. [Not to mention being insulted by the very people who put them there calling them 'gimme goobers' & the 'entitlement class']
Without the jobs, the government is short of funds while demand for the 'safety net' increases, which is just about where we've been stuck for years.
If Romney really wanted to create meaningful growth [to the entire country, not just the CEO, management & shareholders], he had plenty of opportunities to do it at Bain, but he wasn't interested then, and I don't believe he is now either. And please don't say 'that wasn't his job', because wanting to strengthen your country in whatever way is in your power to do it is everyone's job. He utterly failed.
PS Just read that
Wellpoint [parent to Blue Cross] shareholders forced the resignation of CEO A Braley, because they're unhappy with the ROI over the past few years. During those years, the CEO's pay doubled[ from 6 million to 13], and that's a common example of how business works: subpar performance earns millions, while those who do an excellent job lose it.
Romney won't change that, it's how he works and all he knows.

What are you talking about. He had no responsibility to make the us better at main. Sorry cherri but your post doesn't make sense. You try to stop someone from saying that was his job to create income for the investors well sorry it was. You can try to turn it into something else but it doesn't change that fact. His business career was an immense success and created thousands of jobs that cannot be argued. During his tenure something like 80% of bsins investments were successful.

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LDB

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Bottom line, you can either hold your nose and vote for mediocre, dull, boring and uninspiring Romney or you can do anything else which no matter what else you do it translates into voting FOR EVIL AKA OBAMA. As sad and unfortunate as it is, those are the two choices for this particular election. You can VOTE FOR EVIL or you can vote the one way that may remove the evil.
 

cubansammich

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I don't like Obama Care. I don't believe they will repeal it. Once in power they won't give up the power it gives THEM! The Republicans are EXACTLY the same.

I would like to know what you specifically don't like about the Affordable Care Act. I think you don't know what it is.
 

davekc

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Romney certainly knows what strategies offer the best ROI for shareholders, [after his company gets their enormous compensation], but that doesn't translate into creating the jobs that we need to get out of the mess we're in. Jobs mean increased tax revenue and consumer spending, which creates demand for products & services that create demand for more workers, etc. Romney is part of the trend to reduce labor costs by whatever means possible, which leaves Americans on unemployment. [Not to mention being insulted by the very people who put them there calling them 'gimme goobers' & the 'entitlement class']
Without the jobs, the government is short of funds while demand for the 'safety net' increases, which is just about where we've been stuck for years.
If Romney really wanted to create meaningful growth [to the entire country, not just the CEO, management & shareholders], he had plenty of opportunities to do it at Bain, but he wasn't interested then, and I don't believe he is now either. And please don't say 'that wasn't his job', because wanting to strengthen your country in whatever way is in your power to do it is everyone's job. He utterly failed.
PS Just read that
Wellpoint [parent to Blue Cross] shareholders forced the resignation of CEO A Braley, because they're unhappy with the ROI over the past few years. During those years, the CEO's pay doubled[ from 6 million to 13], and that's a common example of how business works: subpar performance earns millions, while those who do an excellent job lose it.
Romney won't change that, it's how he works and all he knows.


Part of what you say is true. By the very nature of how venture capitalism works, there is going to be casualties when a company is coming in trying to save a sinking ship. Some cases they benefit, and others they lost their behind. But do remember, they are using investors money to do those things. Who are those investors? Some a tied to pensions, 401k plans and other investments. Not all investors are rich tycoons. On the other side, they created Sports Authority, Staples amongst others. So there is that side as well.
If you are just wanting to look at who is shipping jobs to China, look no further than Obama appointed "jobs czar" Jeffery Emmelt head of GE. Almost hilarious. He ships more jobs overseas as we speak more than anyone. That is still going on verses a guys record from 20 years ago when there wasn't a employment problem.

FactCheck.org : Lemon-Picking Bain Capital, Obama-style
 
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BigCat

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I would like to know what you specifically don't like about the Affordable Care Act. I think you don't know what it is.

It isnt affordable health care. We are paying for insurance we wil never be able to use for 1.) We are working class and refuse to sit on our *** taking handouts and 2.) We are not illegal immigrants that are getting the health care.
 

layoutshooter

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I would like to know what you specifically don't like about the Affordable Care Act. I think you don't know what it is.

What would make you say that I don't know what it is?

I am opposed to ANY socialized government program. I am opposed to the federal government MANDATE the I buy ANYTHING. I am opposed to 14 persons, appointed by the president, to run Medicare, without congressional over sight.

I have ALREADY cancelled my insurance, written Obama, my former congressman and both senators, informing them of that and making it QUITE clear that I REFUSE to pay the fine.

Marxism and socialism are very bad, don't work. You cannot show me ONE U.S. socialist program that works, that is not in debt, that is not near going bankrupt and not overwhelmed by fraud and corruption.

Sorry, I never did welcome you to the forums! What kind of expediter are you? Strait truck? Van? T/T? Just starting? Again, welcome to the club.
 

davekc

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One could write a book on all things wrong with Obamacare starting with no money to do it unless we print some more. But to be fair, the pre-existing conditions part of it does have some value. The rest of it is a absolute joke.
 

layoutshooter

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One could write a book on all things wrong with Obamacare starting with no money to do it unless we print some more. But to be fair, the pre-existing conditions part of it does have some value. The rest of it is a absolute joke.

At a higher rate. Nothing is free. Far too many expect others to take care of their responsibilities. And as always, charity is a GIFT, and if forced, is not charity but theft.
 
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