Anyone out there letting O/O's bid their own loads?

xiggi

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
In many cases the carrier will ask what I require for dead head. over the course of the last 6 months I've found bidding at $0.80 all in will win the load one out of 15 times yuck
What you need to realize is that price is not the only consideration when awarding bids. Sure some shippers will always go low ball but often they consider other things. Carrier reputation, ratings, etc all come into play. Don't get stuck on price alone, those are things people need to consider when choosing a carrier. Like I mentioned earlier if your people have to bid in the .50's to get you out of laredo that's a sign you might need to shop yourself around.
 

wayneygogo

Seasoned Expediter
Good point on associating yourself with the right carrier. in addition learning the location where one will end up and where the freight is helps quite a bit. you know I've been told by one carrier there is no freight in certain locations I think only because they either did not have customers in the area or they knew that the rival carrier uses that preferred lane. I've been told there is 0 freight in certain areas and was asked to dh only to get a call 40 minutes later from the spot I just left. please provide me a list of all customers that use expedited cargo vans. haha
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Good point on associating yourself with the right carrier. in addition learning the location where one will end up and where the freight is helps quite a bit. you know I've been told by one carrier there is no freight in certain locations I think only because they either did not have customers in the area or they knew that the rival carrier uses that preferred lane. I've been told there is 0 freight in certain areas and was asked to dh only to get a call 40 minutes later from the spot I just left. please provide me a list of all customers that use expedited cargo vans. haha
the way of this business....think you can be only wrong 50% of your moves...either left or right...LOL
 
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wayneygogo

Seasoned Expediter
Let me clarify. the other two carriers do not disclose their profit margin. the one carrier that does is the carrier that requires the VOI certified insurance, which supposedly helps the carrier win the bid. it is frustrating not knowing the profit margin of the other two carriers
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Good point on associating yourself with the right carrier. in addition learning the location where one will end up and where the freight is helps quite a bit. you know I've been told by one carrier there is no freight in certain locations I think only because they either did not have customers in the area or they knew that the rival carrier uses that preferred lane. I've been told there is 0 freight in certain areas and was asked to dh only to get a call 40 minutes later from the spot I just left. please provide me a list of all customers that use expedited cargo vans. haha
most small carriers have NO customers...what they call customers are other carriers selling them their loads...or a variety of Broker load boards Like CH Robinson, Penske logistics, NLM....
and the slower it gets the less gets posted to bid on from the bigger carriers because the vans are running what they have...
 
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OntarioVanMan

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Let me clarify. the other two carriers do not disclose their profit margin. the one carrier that does is the carrier that requires the VOI certified insurance, which supposedly helps the carrier win the bid. it is frustrating not knowing the profit margin of the other two carriers

Most now are certified in one way or another...VOI is, well VOI.....LOL
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
don't want to depress you, but don't want to lead you down Dream street either....
better to be at the corner of Reality and What it is Blvd.....
 
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ntimevan

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Owner/Operator
don't be disillusioned by Ntimes paid miles....that carrier is also a BIG load broker a logistics specialist....they only pay him what they can afford...NO carrier gives the money away if they aren't getting their cut first...They have customers that are willing to pay for trucks that have their decals only like "exclusive use" Kind of like Whirlpool before they got Pantherized...

Your average..is that ALL miles or just your paid miles?...
don't want to depress you, but don't want to lead you down Dream street either....
better to be at the corner of Reality and What it is Blvd.....
Disillusioned ... Lol
Thats what alot of Carriers want their O/OP s to be ... BUT there is a FEW Carriers that actually want to help their o/op s succeed as well form a Great working relationship ... Not all are Big-Name companies ... Some are active on this site ... Some are not ... my point is research Companies and talk to Drivers out on the Road , possibly go to the Expo , look at home time , insurance costs , Qualcom costs , driver deductions , tolls paid , and Driver Turnover .... is there Orientation every week ? or just when company feels a need to add on a couple of Vans because of Current customer needs .... some Carriers just keep the Hamster wheel turning ...drivers leave .. drivers come on board .... What happened to Driver Retention .. sometimes after reading Posts on here .. complaining on Their Carrier or lack of Miles or Stuck in Laredo ... or where is the Freight ... why is it Slow .... Really ? ... if you had researched on here or about Expediting in whole ...You would know the Answers before you have the Question.. It is NOT the first Slow July Shutdown .... So if you work for a Carrier who Depends solely on Auto freight ... your mostly screwed ... So for July 2016 plan for a Vacation with Family , plan MONEY wise (save ) for the slow down , or come on here in July 2016 and ask Why is it Slow ..... the Hamster Posting wheel continues to rotate .....;)
 
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Unclebob

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Owner/Operator
When considering a carrier the first question you should ask is if you're allowed to sign on with multiple carriers with them. If they say yes turn around and walk out. The REAL carriers expect to have exclusive use of you and your vehicle.
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
imagine this...multi carrier style....2 carriers have you posted to an area....

first carrier texts you....bidding on a load now...
2nd carrier calls...........bidding on a load op...
1st carrier ..................dang we loss the load by a nickle to a low ball carrier
2 nd carrier calls........We got that load!!! LOL
 

Treadmill

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
imagine this...multi carrier style....2 carriers have you posted to an area....

first carrier texts you....bidding on a load now...
2nd carrier calls...........bidding on a load op...
1st carrier ..................dang we loss the load by a nickle to a low ball carrier
2 nd carrier calls........We got that load!!! LOL
And that is why we don't recommend multi carrier because you are bidding carriers against one another for the same load at a lowest rate possible instead of the highest rate possible.
 

Treadmill

Veteran Expediter
Owner/Operator
imagine this...multi carrier style....2 carriers have you posted to an area....

first carrier texts you....bidding on a load now...
2nd carrier calls...........bidding on a load op...
1st carrier ..................dang we loss the load by a nickle to a low ball carrier
2 nd carrier calls........We got that load!!! LOL
And that is why we don't recommend multi carrier because you are bidding carriers against one another for the same load at a lowest rate possible instead of the highest rate possible.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
on most open load boards shippers/brokers are NOT looking for the quality carrier and most aren't going to spring more money.....BUT there are a few, very few that will....any of the higher priced loads are usaully dealt with thru partnerships and agreements and email bid invitation only....
 
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