A Striking Contrast Among Motor Carriers

[ATeam]

Phil, it'd be hard to imagine you'd be at the office and not find out Landstar's policy on handling the new 30 minute break while on a secure load. We know the explosives exemption, but how about other loads ?
Thanks in advance for your reply.

As best as I can tell, the response to the new HOS rules will be determined carrier by carrier. Landstar will communicate its guidance to its BCO's. I expect that your carrier will communicate their guidance to you and other carriers will communicate their guidance to their contractors and drivers.

 

[LDB]

Heck, if you are a Landstar BCO, Landstar policy allows you to carry a gun or guns in your truck if you wish, as long as you abide by all the federal, state and local laws that apply. If you want to give a friend a ride in your truck, Landstar does not have policies that prohibit that, they have policies that allow it (after completing the right forms). If you want to use your truck to move your personal goods or, as a favor, those of a friend, it's the same way. It is not prohibited. It is allowed (after taking the right steps).

Well, other than the Constitutionally correct position on the Second Amendment, this could apply to many if not most carriers. My dad rode with me for the better part of a year, the best year I ever had expediting, after completing the right form (singular not plural).

 

[zorry]

Every non union carrier I ever worked for had a rider policy.

It's a low cost benefit for the carrier.

Age limits varied, 12-16 year minimum age and usually a low cost insurance policy had to be purchased..

 

[ATeam]

Well, other than the Constitutionally correct position on the Second Amendment, this could apply to many if not most carriers. My dad rode with me for the better part of a year, the best year I ever had expediting, after completing the right form (singular not plural).

When we were there, FedEx Custom Critical prohibited firearms in their trucks. Has that changed?

When we were there, and when Arrow went bankrupt at Christmas time, leaving truckers stranded around the country, FedEx Custom Critical denied my request to be allowed to provide a ride Arrow drivers (truck not dispatched or loaded), and they made it crystal clear that no FDCC truck would be allowed to do so either. At the same time, Panther allowed and encouraged the good deed. We were not at Landstar at the time, but their policies would have allowed it.

 

[xiggi]

Your pro land star postings would mean much more without the anti some other company comparisons.

I can completely understand being proud of where you work but as with any business promoting one is much more affective when done without demeaning another.

Sent from my Fisher Price ABC-123.

 

[ATeam]

Your pro land star postings would mean much more without the anti some other company comparisons.

I can completely understand being proud of where you work but as with any business promoting one is much more affective when done without demeaning another.

Stating the policies under we once operated is hardly demeaning to the company that established and enforced the policies.

I will admit, however, that our recent visit to Landstar opened old wounds regarding our former carrier. The striking contrast between the two companies placed old memories into stark relief.

It did not sit well with me at the time that we were prohibited from using our own truck to do a good deed for an Arrow driver who could have used a ride after being stranded at Christmas time. It still doesn't. As stated in my original post, things do not have to be the way they are at that carrier and my intent was to goad decision makers there to think about that.

Both before and after leaving that carrier, it is always the same when you sit with a group of FedEx Custom Critical drivers. You listen for a few minutes and then the stories start about the wrongs they have suffered and injustices that have been visited on them by the company.

In many cases, they are not actually wrongs or injustices but communications and respect is so low that many of the drivers cannot see it any other way.

Once again, FedEx Custom Critical decision makers, it does not have to be that way. Carriers much larger than you with security issues no less significant enjoy better relationships with their contractors. Why don't you?

 

[zorry]

Who would have been liable if the Arrow driver got hurt in your vehicle. Slip and fall, vehicular accident ?
Also, you were dealing with strangers.


Some companies just play it closer to the vest than others.

I don't fault them for saying no.

I picked up a stranded female, 40 miles west of Green River, Ut at 2am.
When I qualcommed Roadway they told me to put her back out on the shoulder.

 

[LDB]

My point was that most carriers do not take the Constitutionally correct position on the Second Amendment and most carriers are no different on passengers and private use. I don't recall LEAM holding the correct position on the Second Amendment several years ago either. Perhaps this is a recent change for the better. It would be nice if LEAM became a trendsetter in this particular area.

 

[zorry]

Without a universal carry permit,isn't Landstar's policy almost useless ?
I guess you could carry doing personal conveyance around home state. ( although last I heard it'd have to logged ).
Otherwise wouldn't it be unwise to leave home unless you knew you could stay in a controlled, limited area ?

 

[Turtle]

Just so you know...

Unauthorized persons not to be transported. - Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration

 

[Slacktide]

I really get tired that you want to argue with everything I say.

That truly made me LMAO, when the VERY FIRST person to start picking this apart was YOU !! One would think you have ATeam on alert the way that you seem to have to reply to almost EVERYTHING he posts. OH, WAIT, I get it now. You inherited his purple pompoms and are designated the new FedEx cheerleader.

Yeah Former Carrier*, how'd you ever get to where you are today with the way you treated Phil ?

We're ok. We'll get by.

Has Phil decided not to pull the plug by July 1st ?

The world awaits the announcement.

* named edited out to protect the innocent.

I suppose that^^^ is just a friendly jab?


BTW ATeam, I feel your pain here. I've been called everything you can think of by zorry.

Although, it does seem lately, like zorry is bucking for a mod position. His responses are two sided recently. He tears a post apart in one post and then to jack his post count numbers up he comes along later and tries to smooth things over and thanks them for the "info"

Haters gotta hate and BULLIES gotta bully

 

[zorry]

BTW ATeam, I feel your pain here. I've been called everything you can think of by zorry. Quote from Slacktide

In your spare time go back over my posts and let me know how many things I have called you.

Or Phil for that matter.

And where have I bullied or shown hatred ?

 

[Turtle]

BTW ATeam, I feel your pain here. I've been called everything you can think of by zorry.

In your spare time go back over my posts and let me know how many things I have called you.

Or Phil for that matter.

And where have I bullied or shown hatred ?

In the above post, where you show a distinct and seething hatred for the [noparse]

and

[/noparse] nomenclature and syntax.

 

[zorry]

[QUOTE=Slacktide;622681 and then to jack his post count numbers up

S/T seems really focused on my post count. This is the second time he's brought this up .

Is there a prize or something ??

 

[cheri1122]

Some seem to think so. I think if they value quantity over quality, it'd have to be a booby prize. Unfortunate word, given the audience, but I couldn't think of a better one.
Post counts matter to morons, IMO.

 

[Slacktide]

BTW ATeam, I feel your pain here. I've been called everything you can think of by zorry.

In your spare time go back over my posts and let me know how many things I have called you.

Or Phil for that matter.

And where have I bullied or shown hatred ?

I have got neither the time nor the ambition to go through EVERY post of yours that you have attempted to discredit of infer that I am someone or thing that I am not. Not to mention I'm not going to bring PM's into it that you have sent once you have realized you were WRONG.


I used Phil and myself as recent examples of how you are as of late. Trust me that I could go and spend days retrieving posts of yours that are confrontational to any number of members here. Then I could go into the same threads and pull your posts that show you backing off and attempting to smooth things over after being called out.

Just to clear up why I bothered to reply the first time, I truly found it LAUGHABLE that YOU of ALL people would ask someone why they have to argue everything that was said.

and then to jack his post count numbers up

S/T seems really focused on my post count. This is the second time he's brought this up .

Is there a prize or something ??

I am not focused on your post count AT ALL. Even the casual observer can pick up on the fact that you have little other to do than sign in here and, post, post, post, even when you can't think of anything worthwhile to add to the given conversation.

BTW zorry, can you see anything wrong with the way the quoted portions of your posts show up? There is an option under the "go advanced" button that lets you PREVIEW your post BEFORE you click the post button. I would think someone that spends SO much time on this site would LEARN how to use it PROPERLY. I had to fix your mistake so it would show properly when I quoted yours.

Come to think of it, maybe you make those mistakes on purpose so that people won't try to quote you and have to spend time fixing what you do while quoting others.

 

[Slacktide]

Post counts matter to morons, IMO.

My point EXACTLY!

 

[zorry]

Post counts matter to morons, IMO.[/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR]

Since I have mentioned, honestly, on more than one occasion that post counts don't matter to me, and you seem to focus on it, one would wonder which of the two of us Cheri is referring to.

 

[cheri1122]

I refer to the poster who introduced the subject.
Most of us know that there are posters who achieve a very high post count by adding nothing whatsoever to the conversation, even when they have to post to let us know they have nothing to say. Or that they find the subject boring, or silly, or whatever.
The kind of people who talk because they have to say something, rather than because they have something to say.

 

[zorry]

Hey Slacker, this will be my last comment as this is too far off topic and too personal.
Yeah, i've had a lot of posts. So what. Some have entertained, some have informed , and some never should have been written.
What have YOU contributed here ? I never heard of you until one day I mentioned that a TK failed TVal testing. Since that day you've been all over me like white on rice. I even took it to pm's to try and figure you out.
You didn't respond. You are the only poster that refused to have a civil discussion via pm's. I think you are all about bullying and hatred.