A Striking Contrast Among Motor Carriers

zorry

Veteran Expediter
I'm sure it could be found, if it even does exist, with a simple phone call or e-mail.

I really don't care either way.

I have adjusted to their system.
 

paullud

Veteran Expediter
When drivers make friends in an office thats when the look of preferential dispatch arises.

The idea of preferential dispatch can damage a company more than the actual act.

So is it a better thing to have the office people and drivers not like each other but still give preferential treatment like FedEx?

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jjoerger

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Owner/Operator
US Army
But who has the best food in the cafeteria?:)

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zorry

Veteran Expediter
It's got nothing to do with Florida culture and you know it.

That was a simple observation, not an arguable fact.

I really get tired that you want to argue with everything I say.

Luckily I'm ready to lay down now as we have a lot of miles to knock out in the next 48 hours.
 

zorry

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So is it a better thing to have the office people and drivers not like each other but still give preferential treatment like FedEx?

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I don't dislike people in the office.

I give them no reason to dislike me.
I have actually given them reason to like me on occasion.

And yes, we have great food.
I would expect Landstar to have great food,also.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
Now, it seems as if there's at least some suggestion that Landstar is good and the unnamed former carrier is bad due to the security restrictions. If that's so, then there is at least one other major carrier that is also "bad", locking contractors out of every area except for a small driver area and requiring an escort to go anywhere else or meet any employees.

I am not talking about security restrictions with either company. I am talking about corporate culture and the respect and dignity that is extended to contractors by one company but not by the other.

Legitimate security restrictions exist at both companies and many of these are required by regulations. But there is no regulation that prhoibits the company president from visiting a training class to say thank you to the contractors. There is no regulation that prohibits administrative people in the company from being available and immediately helpful to the people who haul the freight. There is no regulation that prohibits an instructor from making the effort to remember contractor names. There is no regulation that requires drivers to be relegated to the driver's entrance when everyone else in the company is allowed to use the front door.
 

jjoerger

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Owner/Operator
US Army
I always thought the reason FedEx didn't allow overnight parking was because they didn't want drivers trashing the parking lot. After a few weeks it would look like and smell like a truckstop parking lot.

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ATeam

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Retired Expediter
And yes, we have great food.
I would expect Landstar to have great food,also.

Actually, FedEx Custom Critical has better food in its cafeteria than Landstar has in theirs. For drivers for whom that is an issue, FedEx Custom Critical should be your motor carrier of choice.
 

scottm4211

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Owner/Operator
I'm still wondering why the magic blue card was locked in a file cabinet and why another BYOB or whatever they're called had to tell you about it.
 

xiggi

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Owner/Operator
I am not talking about security restrictions with either company. I am talking about corporate culture and the respect and dignity that is extended to contractors by one company but not by the other.

Legitimate security restrictions exist at both companies and many of these are required by regulations. But there is no regulation that prhoibits the company president from visiting a training class to say thank you to the contractors. There is no regulation that prohibits administrative people in the company from being available and immediately helpful to the people who haul the freight. There is no regulation that prohibits an instructor from making the effort to remember contractor names. There is no regulation that requires drivers to be relegated to the driver's entrance when everyone else in the company is allowed to use the front door.

I have to admit the name thing is a strech. That is more of a personal trait than company culture. I am disastorous at remembering names despite a personal effort to be better at it. I have always admired people who have the talent to retain the names of a group of people. Never thought of it as anything but a personal attribute.

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ATeam

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Retired Expediter
I'm still wondering why the magic blue card was locked in a file cabinet and why another BYOB or whatever they're called had to tell you about it.

I have the very same question. Landstar has been very good about communicating regulatory things of that nature to us. To my knowledge, this is the first item that Diane and I missed. We pay attention to our mail but spend a lot of time out of service. If the notification came by Qualcomm, we could have easily missed it during one of our out-of-service times.

Also, the card only applies to certain kinds of loads hauled on certain roads. It may be that we have never done anything before that triggered the need for the card.

I don't know the answer to your question but it does not matter now. We have the card.

For those of you who may be wondering, it is called a Trip Permit Payment Card and is issued by the New York State Thruway Authority. I never heard of such a card while with our former carrier or from any other driver with any carrier. If you want to know more about it, contact your carrier or the Thruway Authority directly.
 
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ATeam

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Retired Expediter
Never thought of it as anything but a personal attribute.

Same here. Not everyone at Landstar has that trait. Nevertheless, it was a remarkable part of the day, as I characterized it above.
 

LDB

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Retired Expediter
Actually, Virginia did come address my group at orientation, albeit for only 3-4 minutes. There are a few of the executives I know and who speak to me by name when I see them. Remembering names has nothing at all to do with the corporation though, that's all on the individual. I wish some more of it was on me. I have a heck of a time remembering names.

Leaving a carrier often is accompanied by some negativity. It's probably human nature. There seems to be a hint of Landstar walks on water and a hint of negativity elsewhere. Maybe not, but that's the impression. The truth is there are warts everywhere. It's just a matter of how the same wart is perceived by different people.
 

usafk9

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I have the very same question. Landstar has been very good about communicating regulatory things of that nature to us. To my knowledge, this is the first item that Diane and I missed. We pay attention to our mail but spend a lot of time out of service. If the notification came by Qualcomm, we could have easily missed it during one of our out-of-service times.

Also, the card only applies to certain kinds of loads hauled on certain roads. It may be that we have never done anything before that triggered the need for the card.

I don't know the answer to your question but it does not matter now. We have the card.

For those of you who may be wondering, it is called a Trip Permit Payment Card and is issued by the New York State Thruway Authority. I never heard of such a card while with our former carrier or from any other driver with any carrier. If you want to know more about it, contact your carrier or the Thruway Authority directly.

Yawn.

Yet another installment in the "Phil Doesn't Like FedEx" saga.

Here's another stark contrast: Our carrier...you know, your former one.......had that card in our mitts last fall, when it was issued by the scumbags that run the Erie Canal.....I mean the Thruway. Is this part of the 'freedom' Landstar experiences? Oh, and it was sent the same day our CC called and told us to look for it in the mail.
 

usafk9

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Actually, Virginia did come address my group at orientation, albeit for only 3-4 minutes. There are a few of the executives I know and who speak to me by name when I see them. Remembering names has nothing at all to do with the corporation though, that's all on the individual. I wish some more of it was on me. I have a heck of a time remembering names.

Leaving a carrier often is accompanied by some negativity. It's probably human nature. There seems to be a hint of Landstar walks on water and a hint of negativity elsewhere. Maybe not, but that's the impression. The truth is there are warts everywhere. It's just a matter of how the same wart is perceived by different people.

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Turtle

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Retired Expediter
I'm still wondering why the magic blue card was locked in a file cabinet and why another BYOB or whatever they're called had to tell you about it.
I'm still wondering how someone could park at a corporate headquarters twice previously and not have ever asked or observably determined whether they can park there overnight, especially since the issue of overnight parking at their former carrier is such a bone of contention.
 

ATeam

Senior Member
Retired Expediter
I'm still wondering how someone could park at a corporate headquarters twice previously and not have ever asked or observably determined whether they can park there overnight, especially since the issue of overnight parking at their former carrier is such a bone of contention.

As I said above, we had not parked there overnight before. Parked, yes. Parked overnight, no. When we parked before, there was no reason to ask or "observably determine" that overnight parking was permitted or prohibited.

Not knowing the rules but having come from a carrier where overnight parking was prohibited at carrier HQ, we called to ask.
 
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jjoerger

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Owner/Operator
US Army
I spent the night once parked in Load 1 HQ's parking lot. I was even told I was welcome to use the shower if I wanted.:)
 
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mine258

Guest
There is no
smart
reason on earth why contractors
ought to
be treated with the respect and dignity that Landstar
thus
thirstily
provides
whereas
our former carrier,
ostensibly
deliberately
, withholds
an equivalent
.
:cool:

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paullud

Veteran Expediter
I don't dislike people in the office.

I give them no reason to dislike me.
I have actually given them reason to like me on occasion.

And yes, we have great food.
I would expect Landstar to have great food,also.

You may not do anything to cause them to dislike you but they still do as they will not like drivers in general. It is not exclusive to FedEx and it is a poison throughout the industry.

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