Would you run for a company if they had this?

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
but a suspicious mind would think that some carriers do charge a sprinter premium and not pass it on to the owners.
That is the story out on the road anyhows...
 

davekc

Senior Moderator
Staff member
Fleet Owner
but a suspicious mind would think that some carriers do charge a sprinter premium and not pass it on to the owners.
That is the story out on the road anyhows...

I can't say I really see a "Sprinter premium" when I look at loads, but what I do see is a discounted straight rate. They just tell the customer it it isn't a dock high truck. If the company demands it, then they charge for the straight with no discount. The only ones making the decent money with a Sprinter are the ones hauling multiple shipments or own authority with them and have no sleeper. May be an exception for the guys doing refrigerated dedicated loads with them, but that is a extremely small amount of folks.
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
but a suspicious mind would think that some carriers do charge a sprinter premium and not pass it on to the owners.
That is the story out on the road anyhows...

E-1 calls their sprinters "small straights!" E-1 also charges more money to the customer for sprinter loads. Jenny once sent me to pick up that one load that goes from somewhere not too far from E-1 headquarters and runs direct through to Chrysler Transmission Plant in Kokomo. OVM do you know this run? Picks up around midnight and runs straight through, so tight you can't even stop to take a **** lol.

Well, Jenny sent me there one night because no sprinter drivers wanted to go, and when I got there the two skids were 3 inches too tall to fit into my van. The guy tripped and went off on me for being in a cargo van. He was like "I paid for a sprinter I should have gotten a sprinter!" I politely reminded him that the load was called in as being 48 inches tall. Well , apparently he decided to change the dimensions because he had initially paid for a sprinter and expected a sprinter to arrive there. Nonetheless, after he called E-1 and got the rate reduced, I broke the skids down and loaded them into the van.

So, even though E-1 was giving me the 80 cents a mile deal, they were going to pocket that extra 20 cents off the so called sprinter rate that they charged load. If they would do that to a cargo van, what would they do if the customer has a non-dock high straight truck load? Just makes you wonder sometimes. It made me upset, because it made me look unprofessional.
 
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OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
E-1 calls their sprinters "small straights!" E-1 also charges more money to the customer for sprinter loads. Jenny once sent me to pick up that one load that goes from somewhere not too far from E-1 headquarters and runs direct through to Chrysler Transmission Plant in Kokomo. OVM do you know this run? Picks up around midnight and runs straight through, so tight you can't even stop to take a **** lol.

Well, Jenny sent me there one night because no sprinter drivers wanted to go, and when I got there the two skids were 3 inches too tall to fit into my van. The guy tripped and went off on me for being in a cargo van. He was like " I paid for a sprinter I should have gotten a sprinter!" I politely remonded him that the load was called in as being 48 inches tall. Well , apparently he decided to change the dimensions because he had initially paid for a sprinter and expected a sprinter to arrive there. Nonetheless, after he called E-1 and got the rate reduced, I broke the skids down and loaded them into the van.

So, even though E-1 was giving me the 80 cents a mile deal, they were going to pocket that extra 20 cents off the so called sprinter load. If they would do that to a cargo van, what would they do if the customer has a non-dock high straight truck load? Just makes you wonder sometimes. It made me upset, because it made me look unprofessional.

Yes I've done that run....tight is right!

Does not make me wonder at all...
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
Oh, to top it off, I do not get a cell phone signal at that factory. So I always have to run into the "old lunch room" and use that payphone that is sitting there in the dark to call dispatch and let them know i'm checking in at the shipper. You ever have to do that there OVM? lol.

P.S. Try and make up time going through downtowm Kokomo when you are slamming on the brakes every other stop light. Look at clock, look at stop light turn red, look at clock, slam steering wheel and cuss dispatch. Step on gas, stop again, look at clock, get mad again.
 
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sixpack

Seasoned Expediter
hello all-1st post
I have to wonder why sprinters deserve more money than a cargo van. They made the choice to come under the wire for scales and logs. they wanted to run as a van w/o the problems of C or D trucks. they wanted more door height so they could carry loads that wd have to be put on a straight truck. They wanted better mpg to save money when they got the load. They wanted all the advantages and now they want more of the money now that times are hard.
I run a hi-cube with a built in sleeper and thats my choice, but I dont go crying for more money because I can carry a larger load than other van. If I get it occasionally thats great but I dont think I deserve to get it because Im bigger than a sprinter...
 

blizzard2014

Veteran Expediter
Driver
If companies charge more money to the customer for a sprinter load, then those monies should be passed on to the driver. Now if the company charges a cargo van rate for a cargo van load, then the sprinter driver needs to eat the difference because it is just a cargo van load.

But, generally, if a company is going to heavily recruit sprinters, they need to market them to their customer base and thus provide a higher "average rate per mile" to their sprinter drivers. That just seems to be fair.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Why wouldn't we want better money IF it is a sprinter type load that won't fit in a CV? In the old days it would go on a straight for a higher rate..and I am quite sure the carrier is charging a bit higher if a customer requests a sprinter....
 

CharlesD

Expert Expediter
Yes. If the load could fit on a sprinter but was over 2500 lbs, I would let the driver take it at his rate or pay them a dry run. Then .80 PLM for a single and .85 PLM for a team.

Weight capacity isn't what sets Sprinters apart from cargo vans. Most cargo vans can carry as much weight as a Sprinter. If the load is more than 48" tall though, that qualifies as a Sprinter load and should pay more in my book. If I was going to lease to someone else again, there's no way I'd take under $1 a mile for something that doesn't fit in a smaller van. I probably wouldn't take less than $1.20 for that.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Oh, to top it off, I do not get a cell phone signal at that factory. So I always have to run into the "old lunch room" and use that payphone that is sitting there in the dark to call dispatch and let them know i'm checking in at the shipper. You ever have to do that there OVM? lol.

P.S. Try and make up time going through downtowm Kokomo when you are slamming on the brakes every other stop light. Look at clock, look at stop light turn red, look at clock, slam steering wheel and cuss dispatch. Step on gas, stop again, look at clock, get mad again.

I just punched in arrive a few miles out..the night staff is a bit dozey anyhow. they were just watching Desparate Housewives!!..*LOL*
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
How many of your van loads/sprinter are under 300 miles?

Quite a few actually....and they fill us up when they can. they get their moneys worth...
I just had a load Friday... 5 boxes 61x48x32..would have taken a straight or 2 cargo vans...but only 1,000lbs
 

Bruno

Veteran Expediter
Fleet Owner
US Marines
Quite a few actually....and they fill us up when they can. they get their moneys worth...

Well, under this pay scale you would be getting more than you get now.

0 to 99 miles a $1.30 PLM
100 to 199 miles a $1.20 PLM
200 to 299 miles a $1.10 PLM

So you still think its not fare for van/sprinters
 
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Dakota

Veteran Expediter
The straight truck pay is the same as what I make for running hotshots, but the deadhead is higher by .10 cents
Sounds good to me:)
 

guido4475

Not a Member
Whats your few questions?

One of them would be is there any chance of being able to run Ohio only?I am getting burnt out from being out here, and if it is slow, I'd rather sit at the house instead of in a truckstop.I used to run local for Jet Line transit back in 89, and made a very comfortable living in my 14'cube and 18's/t running local, home every night, and on weekends, even though I understand alot has changed since then.
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
Well, under this pay scale you would be getting more than you get now.

0 to 99 miles a $1.30 PLM
100 to 199 miles a $1.20 PLM
200 to 299 miles a $1.10 PLM

So you still think its not fare for van/sprinters

I do apologize Bruno..I totally missed the bottom of your original post...

They seem fair enough....
 

OntarioVanMan

Retired Expediter
Owner/Operator
One of them would be is there any chance of being able to run Ohio only?I am getting burnt out from being out here, and if it is slow, I'd rather sit at the house instead of in a truckstop.I used to run local for Jet Line transit back in 89, and made a very comfortable living in my 14'cube and 18's/t running local, home every night, and on weekends, even though I understand a lot has changed since then.

Hey now..never mind that Ohio only crap....you either do the job completely or not at all...;)
 
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