chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Just keep diggin that hole bud....and how do you know that i didn't in $2, $5, $10, $20 or $50 or even a $100???
Will you Step up?
- Thread starter Keeshond0622
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Talk about swinging for the fence!! Are you trying to **** people off? Do you figure just by continuing to argue and bump the thread you are somehow going to succeed?
All I see is a possibly worthwhile cause getting dragged through the mud and now that you have attached yourself to GoTruckstop.....you have pretty much ruined any chance of business from anyone on here.
I can't believe you let it get this far.
Helping to lighten the financial burden of a 3-day trip to Dallas isn't my idea of making a difference, 'cause the trip won't make a difference. And that's the only thing this will accomplish. Nothing else, nothing, will be accomplished out of all of this. The Bill will pass, people will feel good, Hope will get her picture in the paper because of it, and nothing out here will change.
arkjarhead
Veteran Expediter
IMHO, he has hurt the cause more than helped it.
minature77
Seasoned Expediter
Having read this thread for the last few days I find it interesting and informative. Until reading this I knew nothing about the proposed legislation, but from all the back and forth I decided to check into it.
I agree with many who have said this will not take care of all the challenges the industry has. However I also read that the Congressman that introduced this bill first knows that as well and said this was a starting place. I agree with him, we need to start someplace, we cant always get everything we want at once. I also give Ms. Rivenburg and her family alot of credit. Despite thier tragedy, they are trying to help the rest of us out. How many of us would have done the same thing when placed in thier shoes? Rather then going back and forth at each other over what the bill does and does not do, maybe we should be contacting our elected officials and voice our opinions on what we need, after all Ms. Rivenburg has got the ball rolling for us. Maybe if we all unite behind her and contact our elected D.C. officials, then we can get more of what we want and need. From the articles I have read, I reallydont think she is doing any of this to "get her picture in the paper because of it", it seems to em she is truly trying to help everyone out so another family dont have to endure what she and her kids have. As far as privatization of the rest areas, NATSO wont let that happen. Some us do indeed prefer to park at truck stops but the fact remains that we have all been in the situation where we pull into a truck stop and it is full so we have to go else where to park. From what I have read the bills before congress provide grants to truck stops as well so they could use it to add additional parking which would help.
As for the G.A.T.S. issue, I see both sides on this one and am not going to take a side. It is a large expense that may or may not help. I can see where going there might reach other drivers that have not heard about the story or the pending bills like myself. I agree with askthetrucker.com though, if OOIDA and ATA support this so much as the have claimed in thier calls to action and articles, they should help out informing people. After all I am sure they will have booths and representatives at the show and from all the money they collect from members they could afford this. Besides it would be good publicity for them and a cause they claim to support.
However this thread has got to negative and I dont think that is going to help any of us nor Ms. Rivenburg out. If we oppose this legislation we should be contacting our representatives and trying to work with them for what we want and need. If we stay quiet nothing will happen, but if we let our voices be heard who knows we might be able to change things. Like S845 would help allow us to arm ourselves crossing states lines if we qualified to carry a concealed weapon, but thats a whole other topic. I know I too will probably be attcked for voicing my opinion but so be it, it dont matter, I have called Congressman Mica and voiced my opinion on this bill and also let them know it is only a start that we need more, thats all I can do.
I agree with many who have said this will not take care of all the challenges the industry has. However I also read that the Congressman that introduced this bill first knows that as well and said this was a starting place. I agree with him, we need to start someplace, we cant always get everything we want at once. I also give Ms. Rivenburg and her family alot of credit. Despite thier tragedy, they are trying to help the rest of us out. How many of us would have done the same thing when placed in thier shoes? Rather then going back and forth at each other over what the bill does and does not do, maybe we should be contacting our elected officials and voice our opinions on what we need, after all Ms. Rivenburg has got the ball rolling for us. Maybe if we all unite behind her and contact our elected D.C. officials, then we can get more of what we want and need. From the articles I have read, I reallydont think she is doing any of this to "get her picture in the paper because of it", it seems to em she is truly trying to help everyone out so another family dont have to endure what she and her kids have. As far as privatization of the rest areas, NATSO wont let that happen. Some us do indeed prefer to park at truck stops but the fact remains that we have all been in the situation where we pull into a truck stop and it is full so we have to go else where to park. From what I have read the bills before congress provide grants to truck stops as well so they could use it to add additional parking which would help.
As for the G.A.T.S. issue, I see both sides on this one and am not going to take a side. It is a large expense that may or may not help. I can see where going there might reach other drivers that have not heard about the story or the pending bills like myself. I agree with askthetrucker.com though, if OOIDA and ATA support this so much as the have claimed in thier calls to action and articles, they should help out informing people. After all I am sure they will have booths and representatives at the show and from all the money they collect from members they could afford this. Besides it would be good publicity for them and a cause they claim to support.
However this thread has got to negative and I dont think that is going to help any of us nor Ms. Rivenburg out. If we oppose this legislation we should be contacting our representatives and trying to work with them for what we want and need. If we stay quiet nothing will happen, but if we let our voices be heard who knows we might be able to change things. Like S845 would help allow us to arm ourselves crossing states lines if we qualified to carry a concealed weapon, but thats a whole other topic. I know I too will probably be attcked for voicing my opinion but so be it, it dont matter, I have called Congressman Mica and voiced my opinion on this bill and also let them know it is only a start that we need more, thats all I can do.
Andrew0580
Seasoned Expediter
Arkjarhead has the best idea, we all buy protection that stimulates the economy and when they break in our trucks we serve justice in our cab!!! That will also save tax dollars on trials and free up jail space, sound like a home run to me. One other thing doesent VA have a 2 hour limit at rest areas?? Not much help for a 10 hour mandatory break.
Dreammaker
Seasoned Expediter
Somewhere in this thread, there is a message stating they are changing the rest area rules so you can take your 10 hour break.
Andrew0580
Seasoned Expediter
They need to do it soon or to keep them open is pointless.
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
For those of you that haven't been following other posts from "keeshond0622", overnight he was outed, in a now removed post, for spamming the membership here with advertisements of his personal merchandise page, inserted into his 'praise' of several products.
Because of these findings, I think it's fair to say that his appeals here are now in question, if they weren't already, concerning the funds for Mrs. Rivenburg's trip to G.A.T.S.
If you'd like a picture into his 'appeals' elsewhere and his attitude involving the lack of funds coming in, you can check his twitter page HERE.
Because of these findings, I think it's fair to say that his appeals here are now in question, if they weren't already, concerning the funds for Mrs. Rivenburg's trip to G.A.T.S.
If you'd like a picture into his 'appeals' elsewhere and his attitude involving the lack of funds coming in, you can check his twitter page HERE.
His appeal in this thread was questionable from the beginning. The stumbling block he's encountered is called common sense. Imagine that...
dieseldiva
Veteran Expediter
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
That boy just seems to be making "friends" all over the net...i guess he figures that "T'ing" off people is the way to build a business.....strange....
RLENT
Veteran Expediter
You likely can't even imagine
..... if I told you the extent of it, you probably wouldn't believe it It is a situation that goes back years - 5 or more that I've seen, and I didn't spend all that much time digging into it - and spans multiple web forums and message boards ..... not all of them related to trucking .....
The pattern often appears to be very similar: this guys shows up, ends up pitching a website he's involved with, resorts to dishonest and unethical tactics that would make even the most polished huckster blush, and ends up pizzing off the local inhabitants .... and then eventually leaves, or is driven away .... but not before he's managed to leave a good bit of chaos in his wake ......
Indeed.
But I'm less concerned about that though, than I am about the fact this guy is connected with what is probably a highly vulnerable young mother, who, no doubt, is in extreme grief at the loss of her husband, the father of her children - that this individual would impart so much ugliness (by his conduct alone) into anything that is even remotely connected to that situation is beyond the pale .... and really says alot about what kind of individual he is.
I have begun to question many things about this guy ..... I'm sure there's quite a story there .........
chefdennis
Veteran Expediter
Rlent wrote:
That is a concern..the only thing you can do is pray she has "some" other good people around her...
That is a concern..the only thing you can do is pray she has "some" other good people around her...
Ok my Americaneeze isn't that good..BUT
what legally would prevent ME(because I am turned off) from donating to a legitamate charity in the future???
greg334
Veteran Expediter
It is not that can't, but it is if you want to.
It is what is called charity overload, when too many charities ask and then you throw in the quick buck artist on top of that.
The point is that people get tired of being asked, a common problem for a lot of charities to face, and when someone like TJ comes along and acts as it is a duty or else, it turns off people from giving at all. In his case it is not legitimate, a vacation is not charity for a family.
The same happens when you are driving down a road in a city, you have a the guy standing on the corner of a street who steps up to ask for money for his church, but if you already gave to the guy at the other light, you may start to feel as a target so the solution is that you don't give at all when asked.
I may not explain it well but for many charities and non-profits it is a problem.
Let me ask you this one, would you give $10 or even $100 to a legal non-profit research that is trying to find a way to get lower fuel consumption and lower emissions for every class 7/8 truck out on the road today? Isn't it a worthy cause? By forming a non-profit, this takes the "I will get rich off of this idea" attitude out of the equation altogether and allow an open collaboration with universities and other research places of the companies because of the lack of the threat of competition. Would you?
Tennesseahawk
Veteran Expediter
Ahh... just because it's non-profit, doesn't mean the individual can't get rich off of it.
greg334
Veteran Expediter
That is true but most of the work done in research non-profits don't end up making people rich, unlike the united way or some of the funding organizations where high salaries are justified by the corporate style work being done.
Beside all of that, these research non-profits are audited a lot to prevent this very thing from happening.
My point is this, TJ makes a claim that some of these people he calls truckers are a**es for not donating to what he considers a worthy cause. But I think he is wrong, I think that if there is a direct benefit to everyone, giving happens more often than not and especially if it is legitimate or made legitimate through the proper steps. In the case of my example, I used the idea that there is a group who has formed a non-profit for the benefit to all that has an idea to reduce fuel consumption and emissions.