You know, guilt, as in 'white guilt'. My reply was actually about Pilgrim's comment about the liberal white guilt that exists, and mentioning yep, there is definitely a lot of guilt (white guilt ) going on. Meaning going on out there in the country, and if the shoe fits, it could pertain to someone in here as well.
I'm well aware of the term, and of how often people bandy it about, I've just never seen any broad evidence of it from liberals or conservatives. The few people who exhibit white guilt are a very small minority, and certainly not in the kind of numbers where all liberals could be painted with that brush. The white guilt over blacks is about as prevalent as the white guilt over Indians is.
I do get a chuckle out of your observation about cleared eyed and honest view from liberals regarding race. Check out some of the rally's that yell 'What do we want? A dead cop.' Sounds like a rational thought eh?
I'm sure you do get a chuckle out of it, because you believe that whatever one or a few liberals do and think is representative of all liberals in all cases. Otherwise you wouldn't have immediately seized on the rare exceptions to contradict the general rule. When I said liberals tend to have a more clear-eyed and honest view regarding the history and present state of race in America, I specifically worded it in general terms so as not to imply (so that you could infer) that I meant all liberals in all situations every one of them. So what do you do? You immediately go. 'Hey! Lookit! These liberals ritghcheer don't have clear-eyed and honest views of it, so you're wrong nyaa nyaa nyaa.' When I wrote, "
And before you even bring it up by pointing out the exceptions, no, I'm not talking in absolutes here. When I say whites and blacks, I'm not talking about every single one of them in all situations with no exceptions. I'm talking the typical, the broad generalizations of the majority within that institutional cultural bias mindset." That was written specifically for you, because I knew you would do exactly that, just like you did.
Or quotes from the food critic that say ALL THE APPLES (COPS) ARE BAD,REPLANT THE ORCHARD.
For one, classifying him as a food critic is "factually inaccurate by omission" (it's a thing now) because writing articles about food comprises a very small percentage of what he writes about on the Web. Second, it's an outright lie that he said anything about all apples (cops) being bad so we need to replant the orchard. He didn't even hint at implying that.
(Additionally I've noticed that liberals have lumped seemingly every police case recently involving a white cop and a black individual into a white racist cop argument. Not saying people should have rose colored glasses on about race, but there is a lot of people that are lathered up unnecessarily by incidents that have nothing to do with racism in the case.
It's usually done by black race hustlers and yes definitely by whites with guilt .
I'd recommend a book if you would bother to read it . It might help you to bone up about race relations, instead of just aimlessly lurching towards the default position that white cops are racist The book is called Paved With Good Intentions by Jared Taylor. Good luck with your education.
If you've been paying attention at all you know that I've written quite a bit (including touching on it in this thread) about how liberal feel-good intentions virtually always come with unintended consequences that, more often than not, make things worse rather than better. So I'm very familiar with the issues and concepts discussed in that book by Taylor. For you to think you can educate me on race relations by having me "bone up" on it is just hilarious.
But you are right about one thing, people (not just liberals, tho) tend to cry racism when it's a white cop and a dead black guy. Sometimes it is, whether it's the incident itself or the racism of not prosecuting the white cop. But quite often it's not nearly so neat and simple as racism. As Pilgrim noted earlier (either in this thread or another one, I can't remember and am too lazy to look) the choke hold death in NYC happened with a black supervisor cop present. Yet people immediately screamed racism, and they got louder when the grand jury failed to indict. There probably was an element of racism to it, but it's not as clear cut as some people think it is.
The reality is, generally speaking (that means
not every one in
every instance all the time forever and ever amen) white people are afraid and suspicious of black people (especially if the blacks are big and black), even when they have no reason to be. White cops are people, too, so they are, generally speaking, afraid and suspicious of black people, as well. But the interesting thing is, according to honest, candid interviews with thousands of them, black cops are
just as afraid and suspicious of black people. So while there is certainly an element of racism between white cops and black citizens, it's not quite that simple.
Because it's not that simple, and because racism isn't necessarily the sole or primary factor in these interactions, people (particularly white racists desperately looking for an excuse or justification) should not seize upon that to assert race didn't play any role whatsoever in the interaction.
People like neat, clean and easy, simple to understand and simple to point out. But race relations in America is a very complicated thing. A lot of people, liberals and conservatives alike, have a desperate need to simplify it, either by painting with a broad brush or by straight-up denial. With many issues, of course, but with societal issues in particular, people want to complicate the simple and simplify the complex. It's how and why we get double standards, why we get feel-good intentions that invariably go horribly wrong, and how others can simply deny that a problem exists.
But, yeah, I don't understand race relations at all, so I'll go bone up on that right away.
