Where's the Panther freight?

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Turtle

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Once you embrace the stupidity and know the rules and how to use them, you can go sight seeing whenever you want. I did.

If you accept a load that is going to swap because of hours, and you don't already know that when you accept the load, it's your own fault. Know your hours, and if you aren't sure, then look online at your satellite positions, or ask dispatch.
 

davekc

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This transfer was likely a result of him starting his clock. It is not likely that Panther wanted to pay for a cross-dock just because the petty cash drawer was getting full.
 

ChrisGa23

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My opinion panther needs to start the clock after 25 miles. What if someone wants to head to Walmart get something get a bite to eat and head back to the truckstop or whereever.
 

Rocketman

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My opinion panther needs to start the clock after 25 miles. What if someone wants to head to Walmart get something get a bite to eat and head back to the truckstop or whereever.

My opinion is I dont want to lease to a carrier that makes rules over and above the federal regs. Having to worry about starting the clock....in a van...is truly stupid.
 

Turtle

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My opinion is I dont want to lease to a carrier that makes rules over and above the federal regs. Having to worry about starting the clock....in a van...is truly stupid.

And yet there is a perfectly rational and valid reason for the rule. <shrug>
 

AMonger

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My opinion is I dont want to lease to a carrier that makes rules over and above the federal regs. Having to worry about starting the clock....in a van...is truly stupid.

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You know the problem with bad cops? They make the other 5% look bad.
 

canesman07

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Not on that Load. No place to swap u at. I took a 2600 miler from Cookeville Tn to Fort McMurray Alberta never heard a peep from them.
 

canesman07

Seasoned Expediter
Panther swaps loads at a higher rate when things are slow. Too many drivers would rather sit, call in an complain then vulture another drivers loads. I myself do not accept swap loads or short loads. My % are not the best and yes I fall below the dreaded requirement sometimes but I do that because I can only run for 5 days a week M-F for the most part. I absolutely hate the 16-5 rule Panther has implemented becausee it means they own my van now. I can not use it for personal reasons and if i do my "clock" starts"? F That. Start my clock when I get to the shipper or on the way.
 

ChrisGa23

Expert Expediter
What really made me mad and probably pushed me to finally put my notice to quit was them swapping me out of a 1900 mile run to lardeo. Picked it up drove about 600 miles and they wanted to swap it. Had all day Saturday and Sunday to get it there for Monday delivery. I asked why and they gave me the run around never really told me. I think they did it so someone who didn't have alot of miles for the week could get some
 

Newtothis

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I'd like to take a poll of how many here "used" to run for Panther... Sure seems like a bunch of you have then moved on to other companies for much the same type of reasons.
 

BigCat

Expert Expediter
Before you got dispatched...did you move at all that you can remember? a run to Wally World? go to the truck wash across the street? anything that would have started your clock?

No I didnt move. I had been sitting in the same spot at TA since the day before and had been in the tv room inside for half of that time. Didnt start my clock until dispatched to go get the load 12 miles away. Still had 12.5 of my 14 when leaving the shipper.
 

BigCat

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460-200=260
260/7= 37.14 mph

Those numbers don't make sense somewhere. No time issue reason to transfer a load like that and I would have a serious problem with it unless they had an actual, defendable reason.

BTW, Just noticed your from West Plains. I'm just south of ya in Cherokee Village (Hardy), AR.

Oh ok yeah your just a rock throw away from me. I live right off HWY 63/60.
 

Bruno

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No I didnt move. I had been sitting in the same spot at TA since the day before and had been in the tv room inside for half of that time. Didnt start my clock until dispatched to go get the load 12 miles away. Still had 12.5 of my 14 when leaving the shipper.

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I think your painting a picture of Panther Expedite Service that is unfair to the company. Your a great guy that is new to expediting and has a lot to learn about the Expedite business. Good luck with driving Jake, you just need to learn the system better and you will be fine.
 
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cableguymn

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I'd like to take a poll of how many here "used" to run for Panther... Sure seems like a bunch of you have then moved on to other companies for much the same type of reasons.


Guilty.. And I left before they got to the level of stupidity they are today.
 

cableguymn

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I think your painting a picture of Panther Expedite Service that is unfair to the company. Your a great guy that is new to expediting and has a lot to learn about the Expedite business. Good luck with driving Jake, you just need to learn the system better and you will be fine.


Yup, learn their system, know it's rules then you will be able to work with in the rules and choke every last mile out of them.

I knew their system when I left, but it's changed since 2006 when I left.

Good luck!

I wonder.. When Panther offers the load, with all the miles then half way through sends you notice and cross docks it. Is that a breach of the contract for running that load?
 
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Bruno

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Yup, learn their system, know it's rules then you will be able to work with in the rules and choke every last mile out of them.

I knew their system when I left, but it's changed since 2006 when I left.

Good luck!

I wonder.. When Panther offers the load, with all the miles then half way through sends you notice and cross docks it. Is that a breach of the contract for running that load?

This is EXPEDITE FREIGHT that means Non Stop Door To Door service. If you don't want to get a load transferred off your truck, run team then you never have to worry about that. If you think Panthers rules are crazy you should have been at my old carrier. They would only let a solo driver in a D unit do 450 miles total. So if the load was 402 and you was 60 miles away the dispatcher had to do a transfer or find a team for the load.

Panther is a good company and is not for everyone, but the last three and half years I have made more money with Panther then I did at my old carrier for the same time. I'm able to do more with my trucks at Panther than any other carrier I have been with. And to respond to your statement about Breach of Contract, no it's not as it says this load may be transferred for safety and DOT reasons. Just run TEAM!!!!!
 

Turtle

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I wonder.. When Panther offers the load, with all the miles then half way through sends you notice and cross docks it. Is that a breach of the contract for running that load?
Unless they can show a valid reason for having to swap it out to comply with DOT regulations or to properly service the customer, yes, it is. They get around that with, "At 47 MPH you don't have enough time to make the scheduled delivery and take a five hour break." They will often have you scheduled at far sooner than the actual "protect" time, and they will also put in the load offer "deliver direct" to give them additional support for swapping it out. Can't take a break and deliver it direct at the same time.

But they also play fast and loose with the swaps, where they'll swap a load that doesn't qualify for any of their own reasons for a swap, for various reasons, but usually it's to get a second truck loaded to spread the miles around when it's slow. They don't usually do that when it's busy, except when they want or need to get another van to a certain area (Home Time or whatever).

But yeah, Panther breaches the load contract a lot. Each load offer that is accepted is a contract between Panther and the contractor. They get around it in several ways, not the least of which is the lease agreement that gives them quite a bit of control over you and your vehicle. When you lease to a carrier you are literally giving control of you and your vehicle to the carrier in return for compensation. There are certainly limits to that control (which Panther pushes), but never forget that you and your truck are a tool to be used by the carrier to serve the carrier's best interests.
 

Slacktide

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WOW! Openly disclosing the income of a driver in an open forum. So that is the level of confidentiality to expect from Mayfield Express?

You may want to rethink that Bruno. Not projecting a professional atmosphere to all of your current contractors or any future ones for that matter.


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MissKat

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Merely staring the numbers for a trucks production Slackman. Not a drivers Personal info.

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