Where is Jessie?

[layoutshooter]

I didn't get to see the video when this happened. I was driving in Michigan. The radio news reports didn't mention the race of either the victim or perpetrators . Not necessarily saying this crime was a racial incident, but just an observation that they(some local news outlets) didn't identify race in the story.

The local news did not mention race until the second day, that was because the racial make up of the mob was not confirmed. The racial angle is now being talked about but greatly played down.

This SHOULD be prosecuted as a hate crime. A mob, made up of black people, attacked, beat and robbed a white man.

Now, should this be this way? NO! Crime should be treated as crime. Had this been a white mob who attacked, beat and robbed a black man, there would be massive outrage in the media. Holder would be looking into federal civil rights violations.

Detroit is again, a tinder box. This summer could be REALLY bad is something is not done now to put an end to it. Black "leaders", "advocates", what ever one wants to call them, SHOULD be out in force right now. They SHOULD be leading, encouraging people to turn in the thugs who committed this horrible crime. They SHOULD be condemning the actions of these people, loudly. The media should be ALL over this.

All races are damaged by incidents such as this. It creates, at the very least mistrust, it can, and does, create hate. That process helps no one. Those who will be hurt the most will be those who can least afford it.

Leaders should NOT be divisive. Leaders should not teach dependence, they should not teach the "victim" lifestyle. The SHOULD be out teaching self reliance, inspiring people to pull themselves out of the mess they find themselves in. The Jackson's and Sharpton's of this world preach the doctrine of blame. They seek to drive wedges rather than build bridges. IF they were "leaders", or people who truly advocated for those they believe need advocated for, would be out in force. They would be very vocal, in the condemnation of this incident, vocal in teaching that incidents such as this will do nothing to improve the lot of the city, or the people that reside there.

Many of today's black "leaders" or "advocates" seek to continue the misery of those they pretend to represent. They only have power as long as the poverty, crime and hatred exist. They act only in "their" best interest.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

In my opinion, Racism exists with both blacks and whites. Trash comes in all colors and we as a society tolerate bad behaivor.

Mr. Jackson and other advocates with other concerns make a nice living by keeping people upset. Its about money, power, and prestege with these people.

Just my opinion.

 

[layoutshooter]

There was ANOTHER man attacked by a mob in Detroit yesterday. This time the man was killed. After they beat the guy they ran him over with a car. Where are all the "leaders"? There is little outrage. This time the victim was black. No word yet on the make up of the mob. If nothing is done, if the "leaders", "advocates", what ever you want to call them, don't soon step up and tame these animals, it is going to be a VERY long, hot summer in Detroit.

I can see it now, one of these times, when another mob attack takes place, a person with a brain will be carrying a handgun and use it to defend his/her/it's life. Then and ONLY then will the "advocates" step up. Only to condemn the person who defended themselves.

The "advocates" WANT this violence. It suits their needs.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

This is just like the Knockout Game.

I think it is time for us as a society to demand justice no matter what the Race is.

We need to call out these cowards and thugs. I dont want people to think that I am singling out any race or ethnicity, it's the bad behavior and race has nothing to do with it.

 

[layoutshooter]

This is just like the Knockout Game.

I think it is time for us as a society to demand justice no matter what the Race is.

We need to call out these cowards and thugs. I dont want people to think that I am singling out any race or ethnicity, it's the bad behavior and race has nothing to do with it.

The ONLY reason race is an issue is because Jessie, Al and Barry keep making it so.

Why we accept, even condone, this sort of thing is beyond belief. Why do I say condone? It is allowed to go on. It CAN be stopped. It will not be stopped until the majority of the people stand up and say enough is enough.

It is obvious that those is charge are either unable, or unwilling, to end this. It is obvious that the "advocates" the "leaders" are going to do nothing.

The numbers of "scumuloids" that are infesting Detroit is rapidly growing. It knows no racial bounds. It is fed by the very system that is pretending to "care" for the people. Decades of socialist, feel good, "gimmiegoober" programs have taken their toll. The piper is here.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

That is true that Jessie and company keep the Black Communities hatred of Whites alive.

It would be bad for business and their support base for them to condemn this.

We are in a very sad state of affairs with this type of Violence.

 

[layoutshooter]

It is very sad. There is no excuse. Detroit's racial make up is almost 88% black. It is those same black people that are being harmed the most by what is going on. The "thug" or "tribal" attitude of a large minority of the people of that city is a big part of what is holding it back.

They need some true "leaders" to step up. Leaders that will put an end to the blame game. Leaders that will stop doing for the people and instead inspire them to do for themselves. So far that does not exist.

The likely hood of repeating the riots of 1943 and 1967 grows with each passing day. Right now, there are NO "Leaders" stepping up to put an end to it.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

I was only about 1 yr old during the 63 riots. I do agree there is no excuse, infact it should be outrage by the Black community since they are the ones being used.

Dependance =Slavery in my opinion and the uneducation is making that dependance neccessary.

When Katrina hit, many people died and were impacted on not knowing selfreliance.

 

[layoutshooter]

I was only about 1 yr old during the 63 riots. I do agree there is no excuse, infact it should be outrage by the Black community since they are the ones being used.

Dependance =Slavery in my opinion and the uneducation is making that dependance neccessary.

When Katrina hit, many people died and were impacted on not knowing selfreliance.

I was 16 during the '67 riot in Detroit. I spent what seemed like endless hours working a relief station where people could shelter when driven out of their homes. I will NEVER for the sight of regular US army troops on the streets. Tanks. Coming out of Detroit on Fort Street, M85, there were machine gun nest set up in the median strip. For those who know the area that is near where the Kemeny Recreation center is.

The other really big impression was the numbers of displaced people, again being in Detroit they were mostly black, who wanted NOTHING to do with the rioting, homes burned out, businesses looted.

Dependence is the same as slavery, which is why the Jessie's, Al's and Barry's create division and push dependence, they want control over those they pretend to look out for.

 

[muttly]

Layout. I agree with most of your points, but I don't see a riot happening over this incident. (The white motorist being beaten by a black mob)White folks in this country don't generally riot. They'll call in into talk radio and complain,but that's about it.

 

[Ragman]

Layout. I agree with most of your points, but I don't see a riot happening over this incident. (The white motorist being beaten by a black mob)White folks in this country don't generally riot. They'll call in into talk radio and complain,but that's about it.

Besides, there is nothing left to burn and trash left in Detroit.

 

[layoutshooter]

Layout. I agree with most of your points, but I don't see a riot happening over this incident. (The white motorist being beaten by a black mob)White folks in this country don't generally riot. They'll call in into talk radio and complain,but that's about it.

I NEVER said that white people were going to riot because of this incident. I believe that we may be headed for riots because of the state of things is the city, that would lead to incidents like this. The lawlessness is that great. The hopelessness is that great. If there are riots it will be as it was in '67, started by black people, participated in mainly by black people, and the most hurt by it will be black. Just as it was in '67 it will not be spontaneous. The seeds are already sown.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

Looked up the Detroit Riot, hard to believe.

THE 1967 DETROIT RIOTS: THE 1967 DETROIT RIOTS - YouTube

 

[layoutshooter]

That brings back a lot of memories. I had spent most of that summer downtown, working with a church group rehabing housing. We were down there the day before it all started. Then spent most of the time during the riot working a relief site. ANYONE who believes this was not "set up" by "community organizers" is a fool. Once started it took on a life of it's own.

Detroit never fully recovered and the conditions for a repeat are ripe again.

Many the Tigers will make a run at the title this season. The Tigers run to winning the World Series in '68 helped to stop a repeat of the following summer.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

My Dad's war buddy made this statement in the erie silence before gunfire started, which applies to this sort of thing. "When unreasonable Idealology confronts rational thinking, needless blood is spilled."

There was a debate between Malcom X and Dr. King on Utube that put things in prospective, Malcom X wanted revenge and Dr. King wanted a peaceful resultion.

It is crazy how Dr. King's message is twisted today.

My core belief is that most people dont want to buy into this type of nonscense and see the leaders that encourage revolts as power hungrey trouble makers.

 

[layoutshooter]

My Dad's war buddy made this statement in the erie silence before gunfire started, which applies to this sort of thing. "When unreasonable Idealology confronts rational thinking, needless blood is spilled."

There was a debate between Malcom X and Dr. King on Utube that put things in prospective, Malcom X wanted revenge and Dr. King wanted a peaceful resultion.

It is crazy how Dr. King's message is twisted today.

My core belief is that

Little has changed in Detroit from '67. Nothing was done to change it. Detroit has been led by the "left", for lack of a better term, the entire time. They make excuses and believe that throwing government money at problems can solve them. The more they did, and do, for people, the less responsibility people take for themselves. The less responsibility people take for their own live the more marginalized they become. Being "kept" is not good. Then you have to couple that with an almost constant drum beat of how they are being held back. Now, what should have been the obvious result of these ideas is being noticed by a few. We can only hope that a majority of Detroit's citizens FINALLY get few up with the corruption and socialist control and take it upon themselves to turn it around.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

Hopefully things will get better in Detroit with out any violence. It is such a waste of resources, Detroit could become the booming business community it once was if it was safe and business friendly. I dont see this happening in the near future.

 

[skyraider]

Where was Jesse then? Maybe this little tidbit of unfortunate history will tell why blacks and whites are still killing each other. Growing up in Chattanooga tn during the 50's and 60's was interesting. Extreme dislike of blacks....it really hasn't changed much imho, but we are not hanging black men from the Walnut Street bridge anymore.....thank God.. After a 100 years of slavery, horrible and despicable crimes against a race of people that did not want to be here, it will never go away, thanks to our ancestors who thought slavery would be a good thing,,,,it was not a good thing, was it?

Here, read this: My city where I was born did this.


Walnut Street Bridge
U.S. National Register of Historic Places


Walnut Street Bridge (Tennessee)
Location Walnut St., over the Tennessee River, Chattanooga, Tennessee
Coordinates 35°3′44″N 85°18′23″WCoordinates: 35°3′44″N 85°18′23″W
Area 1.6 acres (0.65 ha)
Built 1891
Architectural style Other, Camelback truss, modified
Governing body Local
NRHP Reference # 90000300[1]
Added to NRHP February 23, 1990


Viewed from the southeast
Built in 1890, the 2,376 feet (724 m) Walnut Street Bridge was the first to connect Chattanooga, Tennessee's downtown with the North Shore. According to a plaque on the bridge, Edwin Thacher was the chief engineer for the bridge. The bridge's superstructure was assembled by the Smith Bridge Company of Toledo, Ohio, which was a prolific late 19th-century bridge builder. The bridge's substructure was constructed by Neeley, Smith, and Company of Chattanooga. Most of the parts for the bridge were manufactured by Manly Jail Works of Dalton, Georgia and then shipped to the site by rail. The bridge's main spans are pin-connected Pennsylvania through truss spans. The top chord of these truss spans are configured in five sections, making the spans similar to the Camelback truss design. The bridge is historically significant as an extremely long and old example of its type; according to the Historic American Engineering Record: "The bridge was apparently the first non-military highway bridge across the Tennessee River."

A former Union officer from Ann Arbor, Michigan, William Andrew Slayton (1854–1935) was the stone contractor. Slayton lived in a stone house at 533 Barton Avenue, the house known for years by later inhabitants as the location of the "Little Art Shop." It is not known if he built this house, but similarly to Washington Roebling and the Brooklyn Bridge, he could overlook the project from his window. Many of the low stone walls in North Chattanooga are made up of the remnants of stones deemed too small for use in the piers. Subdivision plats in Chattanooga suggest that Slayton developed some areas to facilitate the hauling of materials from quarries in northeastern Alabama, and Slayton Street and Slayton Avenue are found near the current public library location on Broad Street. Slayton's obituary fails to note that there is no stone on his grave at Chattanooga Memorial near Red Bank, Tennessee.

The "county bridge", as the Walnut Street Bridge was once known as, connected the predominantly white city on the south side of the Tennessee River with the large black work force on the north side ("North Shore") in Hill City, a town that was annexed by Chattanooga in 1912.

Now for the Lynching part...this is where they hung'em.
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Two black men were lynched on the bridge: Alfred Blount on February 14, 1893, was hanged from the first span for allegedly attacking a white woman; Ed Johnson on March 19, 1906, was hanged from the second span, also for allegedly attacking a white woman. Johnson's lynching initiated a court case (United States v. Shipp) that went all the way to the Supreme Court.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walnut_Street_Bridge_(Tennessee)

 

[layoutshooter]

This has NOTHING to do with slavery. NO one alive today was a slave in the United States or was involved in the slave trade prior to the Civil War. That constant drum beat and excusing thuggery for events that took place several hundred years ago makes no sense.

The majority of today's problems are being caused, one, by the modern slavery of dependence on government, and two, by the preaching of hatred and entitlement by the so called "black leaders" or "advocates".

What a TRUE black leader would be preaching is, get off your butt, learn a skill and earn your way. No one is owed a living. Events that took place a hundreds of years ago entitle you to nothing. You are responsible for your own lives and actions.

There are just far too many poor people, of all races, colors, creeds etc, who have, by their own efforts, pulled themselves out of it. Use THEM as the examples as opposed to the constant parading of failures to justify more government interference in our lives.

 

[Jamin_Joe]

This is just a general statement and I dont want anyone to think they caused me to write this.

I admit that Afican Americans have been abused in the past. This issue is a bit more complicated than refering to the past. Today there is Racial discrimination and hatred on both sides. One of the reasons why I left my high paying IT job was because I had to deal with Racially motivated BS from Black coworkers and seeing where the Black community was being discriminated with. I knew many qualified Blacks and Whites not even given a chance due to a persons predudice.

There are always two sides to a coin.

There are both Black and White people that mooch off the welfare system and lead lawless lives. For the most part, most of the Blacks that I have known are Respectible Upstanding people, just like many Whites I have known through out life.

There still is slavery in America, mainly in the sex trade, but it has no Racial bounds.

The way I see it, some people need to find an excuse for their bad behavior, get respect they would otherwise not be able to get, and some people are just compliners.

If people would just try and see the good in people, rather than their faults, the world would be a much happier place.